Quoted from daveyvandy:

Just trucked mine a few days ago on the right side for your photo. You can always peak inside to double check.

Quoted from Kkoss24:

It’s the side with the blue tilt indicator .

Quoted from zaphX:

It has several functions:
3. Press and hold to defer (toggle) album mode
Any others?

Quoted from zaphX:

I wish the album modes kicked in a bit later in the game, after completing gold or platinum perhaps.

Quoted from Rolls-Royce:

Fellas, yesterday I heard that something fell precisely when I finished my last game. I just found these parts under the playfield, any idea where the screw might be?
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Quoted from zaphX:

Strangely enough I have yet to see shooter wear against Wonka (~8000 plays) or GNR (~2600 or so).
I did order the scoop Cliffy though!

Quoted from adrock:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-jjp-gnr-thread/page/130#post-6161174
This fix works great, went from high amount of SDTM plunges to hardly ever.
Wish this could be made a key post... this question keeps coming up.

Quoted from daveyvandy:

Anyone know how to resolve this stuck ball? It's consistently getting stuck between the groove above the screw and the diverter.
Tried moving the hemispheric nubs but that's not causing the issue.
I thought about adding a small washer under the screw head but it is tapered.
Any ideas?
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Quoted from nicoy3k:

It’s just a sticker, I’d as for a new one but wouldn’t bother replacing until it’s really beat up

Quoted from Cobray:

I cancelled my gnr LE order early on and then regretted it thinking I could have been $1K ahead of late buyers that paid the $10.5.
I played it again recently and agree with some on here.. game is not for me because of how it shoots. And when I thought about it, it’s how I feel about most if not all of the JJP games.
Led Zeppelin stays. LOL.
Will have fun playing JJP on location with everyone though.
Happy for all the guys here finally landing their games though, it’s been a long time coming.. or so it seems.

Quoted from zaphX:

I saw someone on Facebook say they configured their game to make multiballs harder to achieve because they were "concerned about wear" which is one of the most WTF-worthy things I've seen about this game. The multiballs are important and all of them are earned.
It is important to understand that multiball is not a "reward" or "victory lap" in this game, it is a mechanic that is an integral part of the gameplay.
I'll try and explain the point of the multiballs, I think if you understand what you're trying for it will help make sense of things.
PRE-SONG MULTIBALLS:
LIGHTS: earned by hitting the target on the upper playfield, aim for purple shots.
PYRO: earned by hitting the pyro target and sling behind Slash, action button jackpots
AMP: earned by lighting the AMP inlane, aim for yellow shots
CROWD: earned by skill shots then shooting the under-the-flipper shot, aim for blue shots
Why do you care to achieve them? The better you do in the multiball jackpots, the better your song jackpot will be.
Why do you want to stack them? The more you stack them, the longer the ballsave is and the more balls are in play, making the aforementioned jackpots easier to get. There is a POTC-like adrenaline rush from building the stack and keeping it going.
IN-SONG MULTIBALLS:
INITIAL BALLS IN PLAY: earned by the number of guitar locks you made in pre-song.
ADD-A-BALL: earned by making lit song shots and then the scoop when it's green.
Why do you care to maximize balls in play? The more balls in play the longer you will stay alive to maximize jackpots. Also the more likely you are to get Band Frenzy going.
Is it just mindless thrashing? Absolutely not. You have specific shots you're going for to qualify add-a-ball, and to hit the active band members to activate band frenzy. Once band frenzy is going, you want to maximize switch hits (spinners, pops etc) to blow up the jackpot.
The multiballs are keeping you from making shots? The baller move is to stash some on the guitar neck where they are safe, out of the way, and there's even a power chord award for doing all active balls in play.
I hope this helps provide some context.
I urge people to ignore the Pinside hive-mind.
Too often a game is distilled into one talking point which gets repeated mindlessly.
"They pulled trunk and disc mechs!"
"It sounds like a slot machine!"
"Too many multiballs!"
Play these games with an open mind and give yourself time learn the rules before making a final judgement on a game.

Quoted from zaphX:

I don't -think- so but I could be wrong...I'm constantly discovering things.

Quoted from zaphX:

54m is my greatest jackpot loss

Quoted from Eskaybee:

Depends. Risk vs reward vs going for the wizard mode.

Quoted from chuckwurt:

No jackpots in songs what so ever. Go a different route. I’m curious if higher scores are even possible doing something different than maximizing song jackpots or completing songs and getting the applause JP.

Quoted from Av8:

Someone was surprised I had these. My Feb 2021 gnr se came from the factory with scoop protection and black washers under sling posts. If you didn't get them you might be able to get them under warranty.
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Quoted from PanzerFreak:

GNR is a very deep game and I think you may be simplifying it a bit too much. All of the song modes play differently in regards to different shots being required to be hit on the playfield. Song modes shots can also change as it's played through, that's pretty cool. Each song mode can be played as a single ball or a multiball mode. Theres a variety of other multiball modes that can be stacked with song modes. Finally there's the album modes which are essentially mini wizard modes. Finally finally lol there's a super wizard mode. All of that is layering that very few games do.
I know a lot of people say ACDC is deep but that pins looks extremely shallow compared to GNR. The song modes in that game are very dull in my opinion, all requiring a player to just bash one specific shot over and over again versus working the playfield. All of the multiballs are similar with no unique animations and there's not even 1 mini wizard mode.

Quoted from DrJoe:

What "variety of other multiballs" can be stacked with song modes?

Quoted from DrJoe:

Huh?

Quoted from LukyDuck:

I bet a lot of owners never notice that the lights stop moving up and down. They still move left and right.

Quoted from zaphX:Here's mine. You can see the range of motion is pretty broad on the left spot, less so on the right spot.
Neither is colliding with anything.
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B11J5HumnGgzuW8;7691830F-E469-4D00-8A84-EA0B78F1B1C8

Quoted from zaphX:

Easy! Don’t mess with the screw. Loosen big white plastic nut. Spin the threaded shaft to desired height and retighten.

Quoted from Yoderboy:

Both my spotlights broke as well JJP sent me new ones, they told me they had some defective parts get through. When the new ones arrived the linkage was the same but the servos where a different brand. The new ones are a hobby king hk 15148B. Don’t know if it was the servos or the linkage that was defective, but the new servos are definitely different.

Quoted from Xelz:

Have a question for the audiophiles out there. I have a LE on pre-order (arriving in the distant future since I was very late to pre-order mine ) and I’m currently planning to install a pinwoofer.
However, I also have a spare A/V receiver lying around, and I’ve got the space to place good bookshelf speakers on stands next to the cab. Are there any good options for running audio out to a receiver without getting audio lag?
Sorry if this has already been addressed. I’m currently reading through this whole thread and I’m on page 81 - only 91 more pages to go

Quoted from KingBW:

That's happened to me with LEs at 2 different locations. To avoid tilting I have to wait for the ball search. During a song that is a disappointment. When I get mine I may try a larger rubber ring on the post or a fat sleeve.

Quoted from fooflighter:

I thought so at first too, but looking at it from above, that looks like it will only make the cradle it sits in worse. I will try it though to rule that out

Quoted from fooflighter:

IT WORKS!!!! Thank you much. Just put a bunch of games on it...Not 1 stuck ball in that area and it had plenty of opportunity. Man you saved the day...I owe you a virtual beer.
Big plus is the mylar can't be seen, isn't going anywhere and no unsightly foam on the skirt.
This fix should be under the key posts until/if JJP makes a workaround...if not, I'm satisfied so far

Quoted from fooflighter:

Well, the mylar stopped working, or maybe it never did and I was just lucky...anyways, using foam now and it is preventing the hangup, you're right..can't really see it.

Quoted from fooflighter:

Sorry to hear you joined the club. I’m waiting on both my replacements but JJP was super fast in response and RMA’ing mine. I think they had a bad batch of servos...same issue though, right one broke up down mech arm and left one works off and on but won’t test correctly
Also, I think the right has left and right stop limits, due to the mini screen and ramp obstruction

Quoted from nicoy3k:

This happened to me, it’s in part because that post becomes loose over time, it isn’t held by a nut at the bottom. It’s easy to not realize that the post is rattling around smashing against the playfield. I used these clear washers which look good. I used 1” washers and they don’t interact with the ball. I actually put the 3/4 washers on every other post in the game just in case.
https://www.pinballlife.com/clear-petg-fender-washers.html

Quoted from Mattyk:

Did both servos have mounting screws?

Quoted from fooflighter:

QC Alert! Check your left orbit entry rail washer/post.
This is the only washer I have on the playfield like this so it's a one off...but just check yours to make sure.
The washer is literally warped and deformed from the pressure.
I wouldn't even call this pooling in the playfield..this is extreme torque denting! Looks to me like the line person just kept wrenching until the proper alignment on the rail was reached, playfield be damned
I think this is asking a little much from any playfield so I'm not blaming Mirco here (this time)
I have a temporary large washer in place and next week I am going to fix it with an iron and some PETG / fiber washers. I am 100% certain I can fix and cover this back to new plus it's in an inconspicuous area.
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Quoted from highdef:

Did you not read my post?! I clearly said that I am far from offended, but it is young kids that I worry about. Some parents are sensitive to it and it's not my place to say or dictate what is right or wrong.
What's wrong with me trying to avoid that situation?

Quoted from Shabazz18:

Bullshit. The playfield/application process is defective. Not the art package. Removing the art isn't a solution. It's a work around at best. This shouldn't be happening no matter where the art is located.

Quoted from Xelz:

I agree that a class action lawsuit isn’t the best way. But JJP needs to experience a stronger repercussion than angry posts on a forum. That apparently hasn’t been enough to change their direction for the past few years.

Quoted from zaphX:

Some people just love having an axe to grind. Grind it somewhere else! We’re enjoying our games.

Quoted from zaphX:

Well this post was pretty disgusting. I get called a shill, JJP employee, etc all the time. I’m not getting any special treatment here, nor am I trying to.
It’s pretty simple.
I like what they do with the games.
I respect the huge amount of work it takes multiple people to bring them to fruition.
I understand the supportability challenges.
And I am empathetic to the fact they didn’t make the damn playfields.
I’m a maker too and understand how hard it can be.
If being empathetic and appreciative makes me a pinside villian then I’ll start twisting my mustache.

Quoted from cooked71:

I think you need the longer post to accommodate the thicker PETG washers.
Personally I’m going with a longer shaft t-nut (7/16), the longer post, a modified t-nut (no spikes) from the top, the petg washer and the pl silicone washers. Maybe overkill, but it should eliminate all movement from heavy strikes which those problem posts get.
If that doesn’t work I’m giving up.

Quoted from cooked71:

I’m working on a threaded shaft sleeve (oh my) which should be a perfect fit - if it works I’ll send you some.

I agree. Ridiculous that we’re even talking about this. With all they’re engineering and resources and supply chain you would think they could work this out.

Quoted from PinMonk:

What's your PF angle?
If you put a pinball on the lockdown bar dead center, does it stay there, or does it roll left or right eventually?

Quoted from PinMonk:

That's why I said to use a pinball. PinGuy app has been shown to be wrong pretty often.
Stick a pinball on the glass where it meets the lockdown bar, right above the action button and see if it moves. If the machine really is perfectly level, it will not move from the center. This is pretty close to foolproof and much more accurate for left to right level than the pinguy app.

Quoted from PinMonk:

That's why I said to use a pinball. PinGuy app has been shown to be wrong pretty often.
Stick a pinball on the glass where it meets the lockdown bar, right above the action button and see if it moves. If the machine really is perfectly level, it will not move from the center. This is pretty close to foolproof and much more accurate for left to right level than the pinguy app.

Quoted from parsonsaj:

I added a bunch of you guys in Scorbit today... challenges will come later today if I can manage to have a decent game. In the meantime, feel free to send challenges that you should expect to win to me at AJP.

Quoted from jonesjb:

Please add me too if you haven't parsonsaj! My Scorbit name is: jonesjb

Quoted from punkin:

Got me absolutely fucked how anyone with half a brain would downvote someone for an honest opinion shared.

Quoted from zaphX:

It hasn't been revealed that it's solely software, is the thing.
Consider a flipper as 3 different systems:
- The physical mech itself (which has not changed, and in fact is like williams mechs)
- The driver board which channels power to the coil in the mech
- The software that tells the driver board what to do
We know it's not the mech. If it's software only, then yes this could in theory be rolled out to all games which would be great. But if it also requires a change to the driver board, we're not gonna get that.

Quoted from cybevenom:

Hi all,
i was wondering how many people have installed a graphic on their JJP machines as a welcome message since JJP allows one picture only i am wondering what everyone put in there.
Here's mine for an obvious reason.
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Quoted from zaphX:

I never listen to podcasters or the Pinside hive mind when forming an opinion on a game.

Quoted from zaphX:

Nobody's opinion matters but yours after playing the game.
Don't be so easily led.

Quoted from holminone:

These are great suggestions but I’m not sure how slash solo gets stackable from a sound perspective. I would like to see slash solo more interesting and obvious from a scoring perspective and not perpetually disappointing (admittedly I still don’t really understand how the points work in the mode). How I think it should work is a good solid wack that makes the album go nuts (say 15 spins) should be worth some bank- while also building a multiplier like in Jurassic Park pteranodon mode. Theoretically if I wack that album and get it zinging two or three times within sixty seconds, then hit the guitar lock shot I should get some needle moving points. Make it worth the risk.
Would also like to see me be able to break out some bigger points in a song mode that I’m kicking ass in despite being relegated to a lower song start value (premature song start). I feel i should be rewarded non linearly for exceptional play. Such as the rate at which I’m leveling up in the song should accelerate my song level and jackpot accumulation to be at least interesting and certainly not disappointing.
Busting and kicking exceptional ass through a four and a half minute song to get an applause jackpot worth 1.9m or less is lame.
Subtle volume boosts too as you kick more ass in a song would be nice or more variable crowd volume noises. The base is all here but is like to see the code do a bit more than it already does from the audio experience.

Quoted from holminone:

Love this. Targets per unit time as a performance/scoring variable seems underutilized in this game in particular.
And I don’t like overwriting the song. It kills the incentive to avoid the scoop and try to keep enabling boosters. Again I hate starting a song early. But something about overriding the song start violates the spirit of the game (to me).

Quoted from BC_Gambit:

I make the journey the reward. I try not to play pinball the same way I would do a chore.

Quoted from jonesjb:

Should there be a code update, I have a suggestion that I think may be well received. I'm sharing here to see what others think. The code change would be relatively simple and boost the risk/reward elements and allow the player to decide how multiball heavy they want their songs:
1. During a song, when the lit green center scoop shot is successfully made, rather than adding a multiball right away, the player would have 5 seconds to press and hold the action button
2a. Choosing to press-hold the action button would give a 5-10 second ball save, and BOOST the song level by and extra +10 (or +10%), or another suitable amount BUT not add a multiball.
2b. Choosing to not press-hold the button within 5 seconds would have the game add another ball for to the multiball (after the 5 seconds were up).
Note, when there is one ball left, it would be similar, but quick pressing (but not holding) would collect the jackpot.
This allows the player to risk boosting the value of the jackpot with a higher song level OR play it safe and add more balls to play. What do others think?
Please thumb up if you like it, thumb down if you don't.

Quoted from Vespula:

You can reset the timer balls stay in the lock with the bass ramp shot which also increases the powerchord multiplier.

Quoted from cybevenom:

The bass ramp is the left shot into the VUK on the upperplayfield and feeds to the left guitar rails that lead to the left inlanes

Quoted from Blackjacker:

What? Dude, KOHD was played at *every* show on the Not In This Lifetime tour.
But that (and the current) version of the song as played live is a dreary slog - I can’t imagine playing pinball to it. As a fan of the band, I’d much prefer an original over another cover.

Quoted from brainmegaphone:

Even if he gets permission... I'm not sure why JJP would want to pay anything (even if it was only $1 per game which is a random guess on my part) for the rights given they have already sold all the games. It would be spending money with no real return unless JJP thinks that a bunch of people are on the fence about this title and they will suddenly fork over $11k for a NIB version once a Bob Dylan cover is announced as included.

Quoted from cybevenom:

made on april fools day. no concern here but you did not get the joke.
i am glad to have these.

Quoted from PinMonk:

Wow, GnR with a subway system, too? Would have been even better!

Quoted from PinMonk:

Matrix 1 is all I need. 2,3,4 were ALL less-than.

Quoted from Shmilder:

Does anyone have any good images of the ce playfield differences and sparkle?
Trying to get a good look at the differences but can't seem to find anything.

Quoted from Flipper_Ripper:

For everyone that has installed these precision flippers, can you leave an honest review? Is it worth it? Do you really notice a difference and what is that difference if you do notice it. Really curious to hear from people that installed these. I'm not looking for cosmetics on these, looking for function. Also anyone just install the bushings? If so how did you find it?

Quoted from RA77:

The sparkle is awesome,
The sinking posts and peeling art are not
Shame on you Mirco and JJP.
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Quoted from Vespula:

It's always been high maintenance pia to me. I tried to use it but when I'm always interacting with my phone instead of playing, I'm out.
I just got my first stern and experience of insider connected. It does stay connected. I also like if I'm having a good game I can actually sign in while I'm playing to capture the game.
I don't know that I care about it anymore than that but I was curious and see it stays connected as long as I play so if scorbit Could at least pull that off then I might use it. I don't mind logging in once... But more than once is unacceptable.