Quoted from DCFAN:They are a whole lot bigger and more timeless than RZ or Alice Cooper.
Hey I didn't pick up those themes.
Quoted from DCFAN:They are a whole lot bigger and more timeless than RZ or Alice Cooper.
Hey I didn't pick up those themes.
Quoted from J85M:But it sounds like you have a mind blower of a story to tell on this one Aurich?
I saw a visual pinball virtual tour of what the game could have potentially been like. I think the playfield was an Ousler design, had a grotto that could raise up kind of like the time expander on Dr Who and an upper playfield. I don't think anyone would have been excited about the design to be honest.
There was a strip feature with a timer you could activate to play a little video thing, but I dunno if it would have made the final design, because during the negotiations is when the magazine switched to no nudity, and the game became about acquiring wealth and houses and jets or something. There was some awful clip art of champagne bottles and such, no clue if it was supposed to be a real art package.
It was a corny mess that would be been a colossal failure. I made no secret about thinking it was a horrible idea, but it wasn't my problem, I had zero intention in being involved in it in any way.
I can't speak to Queen and what will happen, obviously it's not much of a secret. But Playboy being binned is doing everyone a favor.
Quoted from Aurich:..... because during the negotiations is when the magazine switched to no nudity, and the game became about acquiring wealth and houses and hydrofoils or something.....
Fixed it for you.
Quoted from rubberducks:Fixed it for you.
Following Andrew's fleecing of the AU ferry industry and subsequent sinking of the hydrofoil venture, expect to see a gofundme for flying cars.
Ever seen a business fail? Is it shocking?
It blows but it happens all the time.
That's why bankruptcy lawyers have a job.
Look at Jpop. Same transfer of assets with MG in violation of creditor laws and fraudulent conveyancing.
Amazing.
As the title says, game over.
Kman is the only one left who cares What a chump for wasting all that hot air BS. Actually I like schmuck better
Maybe read another podcast interview with Amanda How can life be that shallow? It's kind of sad really.
Well, Cointaker needs to get off these M fers like Jpop, Andrew and Dutch.
Oh there were actually TWO Playboy pinball machines designed. Both by Barry Oursler. One was the widebody Aurich mentioned, and the other was for Andrew's other genius idea - The Coffee Table Pinball Machine. An idea so moronic it had us all in stitches, but Andrew was serious and more time and money was wasted on it.
Quoted from SLAMT1LT:Oh there were actually TWO Playboy pinball machines designed. Both by Barry Oursler. One was the widebody Aurich mentioned, and the other was for Andrew's other genius idea - The Coffee Table Pinball Machine. An idea so moronic it had us all in stitches, but Andrew was serious and more time and money was wasted on it.
I never actually saw that, just heard about it briefly, had utterly forgotten all about it actually.
Quoted from benheck:Pretty sure you can't "sell" your license to make something. Also most of a license cost is on the backend anyway (royalties per unit).
Also who the hell wants a Queen pin? Or Playboy?
I'll take a Queen pinball machine, but from a company that can actually make games. A Queen pin done right could do pretty well.
That's literally what the idea was - a table with a simpler, smaller pinball game inside. No backbox, all scoring on a small playfield screen, playfields designed like 'street level' games, trad solid-state size (42-inch standard body). Intended to appeal to both the home gameroom and the ponce furniture markets (though the Venn diagram between the two must be remote at best), but also places like European cafes might pick up.
A version of Queen was designed for it as well - at least in digital form - which I did. Interesting exercise in seeing what you could do with that kind of less-is-more playfield that could still feel fresh to play. Couldn't have too many features, so I made sure what there was would have all been different; a bank of drops, scattered stand-ups, a captive ball, a kicking target, two capture shots for multiball, and spinning posts styled as a vinyl record. Pretty pleased with how the digital sim flips, flows and bounces.
Quoted from jgentry:I'll take a Queen pinball machine, but from a company that can actually make games. A Queen pin done right could do pretty well.
Agreed. The fact that I now own an iron maiden and enjoy it means any music pin can work. Queen could def be good
Quoted from delt31:Nitro pinball mentioned they are reproducing the IO boards. It was noted in Knockers threat - that would be huge.
Got a link to this thread?
Quoted from rubberducks:Yes. As did Stern.
Figures vary re: investments, according to who you talk to.
Stern apparently were shutting down in less than 10 days (according to Gary and various staff). People seem to think JJP had about 1-3 months left.
In Stern's case, the rescue came out of the blue. In JJP's case, I think they'd been trying to get people to invest for some time - though the investors again came out of the blue.
When was the stern bailout/investment? Was it ever released who it was?
Quoted from Pale_Purple:When was the stern bailout/investment? Was it ever released who it was?
Pinball News article dated 2009:
Queen could be a fun theme.
I can't imagine many people haven't sung along to Bohemian Rhapsody or We are the Champions.
Quoted from TouchingEvil:Alien is not a good pin, sold mine after 2 weeks.
Now i want JErsey jack pinball or stern to do Big Trouble In Little China Pinball
Ever better would be a John Carpenter film Medly, featuring:
They Live
The Thing
Halloween
Big Trouble in Little China
Christine
Escape from NY
Assault on Precinct 13
Supposedly John Carpenter is a big gamer, so maybe supporting a pin isn’t that unrealistic.
I just tweeted John Carpenter, Stern, and Jersey Jack suggesting.
Quoted from RobT:Yeah, *nobody* likes Queen!
» YouTube video
Thanks for video, now I don't want a Queen pin for certain.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:Queen could be a fun theme.
I can't imagine many people haven't sung along to Bohemian Rhapsody or We are the Champions.
Name a third queen song! (I can't)
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Name a third queen song! (I can't)
Fat bottomed girls !
Show must go on
Radio ga ga
Another one bites the dust...
and so on
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Name a third queen song! (I can't)
“Who wants to live forever” from Highlander and the Flash Gordon soundtrack come to mind without looking them up
Quoted from RobT:Yeah, *nobody* likes Queen!
» YouTube video
Didn't say nobody likes the band. Said who wants it as a pin.
More importantly what's the art package? Since that's all that matters nowadays.
queen is undoubtedly among the greatest bands of all time.
anyone who has studied their music,
might conclude that Freddy Mercury was a musical genius.
Brian May [lead guitar], John Deacon [bass], and Roger Taylor [drums].
'days of our lives' provides an outstanding documentary on the group.
and here is an excellent acapella version of 'bohemian rhapsody'
Third title for HP should have been Predator. Not the classic one that was blowing up over at SkitB, and which everyone wanted , but a sequel. Trailer looks disappointing, yet intriguing, while Heart and Playboy are a straight up pass.
Quoted from jlm33:Fat bottomed girls !
Show must go on
Radio ga ga
Another one bites the dust...
and so on
Probably the last big hit in the States for Queen was "Under Pressure".
America was(is) crazy homophobic and when Mercury was vacuuming in drag in those videos, their popularity tanked.
At that point, I would see that a Queen album was #1 in the UK and it would maybe peak at 40 in the States.
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Name a third queen song! (I can't)
Then I feel sorry for you. It's literally impossible that you do not know at least 5 queen songs based on there use in advertising and movies alone.
I use an instrumental section of Queen's Brighton Rock (starting at 2:10) on Mustang pinball as one of the music tracks that plays between modes. Sounds killer and this section is great pinball music.
Quoted from benheck:Didn't say nobody likes the band. Said who wants it as a pin.
More importantly what's the art package? Since that's all that matters nowadays.
I'm sure they could come up with something
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Touche.. them are some good songs listed.. just don't think that Queen would sell pins based on theme alone. Just my opinion!
It all depends really, I would have thought Rob Zombie and Alice Cooper wouldn't sell at all, but Spooky made the right choice to start small and sell in 50-100 quantities, rather than saying '200 per month'.
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Touche.. them are some good songs listed.. just don't think that Queen would sell pins based on theme alone. Just my opinion!
At this stage in the market, you *shouldn't* hedge your bets on a machine selling on theme alone. Even if it's a 'good' theme. It can always get cocked up to the point where it would hurt sales of the following game, whatever it is.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Not the classic one
Most Predator fans wouldn't be interested in anything other than the OG film with "Choppa" I really loved the 2nd one as well and have the art to prove it. Still even the new one that appears to be shit from the trailer would be much much better than Queen. I like Queen but not for a pinball theme.
Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:It can always get cocked up to the point where it would hurt
Please explain?
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Name a third queen song! (I can't)
I can't name 3 Iron Maiden songs...
Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:That's literally what the idea was - a table with a simpler, smaller pinball game inside. No backbox, all scoring on a small playfield screen, playfields designed like 'street level' games, trad solid-state size (42-inch standard body). Intended to appeal to both the home gameroom and the ponce furniture markets (though the Venn diagram between the two must be remote at best), but also places like European cafes might pick up.
A version of Queen was designed for it as well - at least in digital form - which I did. Interesting exercise in seeing what you could do with that kind of less-is-more playfield that could still feel fresh to play. Couldn't have too many features, so I made sure what there was would have all been different; a bank of drops, scattered stand-ups, a captive ball, a kicking target, two capture shots for multiball, and spinning posts styled as a vinyl record. Pretty pleased with how the digital sim flips, flows and bounces.
Maybe the timing was wrong in that the company was going down the pan ....BUT this isn't *that* insane an idea. Cocktail 60-in-1 type vids are popular and I've seen them in many bars/pubs recently. Done right, marketed correctly I could see these selling - maybe not to the hardcore on here.
Quoted from Ive:Done right, marketed correctly I could see these selling
What about Andrew Heighway says he would do anything right?
Guy is a slimy moron.
Quoted from Sonny_Jim:It all depends really, I would have thought Rob Zombie and Alice Cooper wouldn't sell at all, but Spooky made the right choice to start small and sell in 50-100 quantities, rather than saying '200 per month'.
Art. Art. Art. (the "location location location" of Pinball)
I may not agree with all of Spooky's choices but they have and continue to design games with their money, not yours. This means what they take in is used to build the games not develop them.
Quoted from JodyG:I can't name 3 Iron Maiden songs...
I couldn't name ONE!....but I can now! Band is great!
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:What about Andrew Heighway says he would do anything right?
Guy is a slimy moron.
And to think... there was a point in time when Andrew thought he could help Skit-B out of the Predator mess!
Aaron
FAST Pinball
Quoted from fastpinball:there was a point in time when Andrew thought he could help Skit-B out of the Predator mess!
True. I met Andrew at least twice, and he told me he was considering "salvaging" the licence after Skit-B exploded.
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