ALIEN PINBALL - Game Over, Man, Game Over

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ALIEN PINBALL - Game Over, Man, Game Over


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Post #9151 Insight from Alien's programmer on tournament mode Posted by Ferret (2 years ago)

Post #9234 Update on distribution Posted by HeighwayPinball (2 years ago)

Post #9660 Here we show you a short clip from the 'Ambush Multiball' mode Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #10128 Photo of Alien at UK Trade Show Posted by unigroove (1 year ago)

Post #10230 game play video from EAG UK tradeshow Posted by Join_The_Cirqus (1 year ago)

Post #10231 game play video from EAG UK tradeshow Posted by Join_The_Cirqus (1 year ago)

Post #10914 Alien ships Posted by ZenTron (1 year ago)

Post #10916 Alien ships Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #11230 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by ezeltmann (1 year ago)

Post #11372 Nordman outline for Alien Posted by solarvalue (1 year ago)

Post #11389 CAD comparison of final Aliens vs Nordman drawing Posted by EalaDubhSidhe (1 year ago)

Post #11417 Gameplay from Heighway as of 2/28/17 Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #13008 Andrew reveals the LE artwork and ramp installation in an alien day video Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #13013 Andrew confirms LE art is finally approved by fox Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #13022 Andrew explains the artist difference for the LE backglass Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #14488 Andrew returns, hints at big announcement coming in a few days. Posted by HeighwayPinball (1 year ago)

Post #15501 Copy of update posted to Facebook by the new HP Posted by Dust2000 (1 year ago)


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#1426 3 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

We know people are eager to see something, so we'll figure something out.

I have a polaroid camera I can ship. It is really cool too, you point and shoot ... out comes a blank pic. Almost as if by magic, the captured image slowly appears. Then you place those pics in the US postal system and ship to me, along with a mailing list. After items have been examined, I'll dutifully wrap and mail to next name on the list. Before long, all of us will get to see an Alien up close.

#1454 3 years ago

Isn't that now? Link to streaming please.

#1630 3 years ago
Quoted from HeighwayPinball:

Our games are currently shipping out with real knockers in them

Like this ...

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#3089 3 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

I'm doing it all. So yes, but not yet. Lower priority right now.

Hell yeah. I was thinking of buying an extra playfield anyways and seeing if someone wanted to paint it. Wanted to put it in my game. Any chance you'd consider doing an overlay?

#3186 2 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

The ignore button is your friend.

I finally had enough and did the same thing, three hours ago. Amazing how much less turmoil and stress there is in my life of late. I am enjoying my time learning about Alien in this troll free zone.

#3203 2 years ago
Quoted from Jgaltr56:

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#3205 2 years ago

Oh boy, this Predator is excited about seeing the Alien motorcycle.

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#3688 2 years ago

Sun is up and so am I. Gonna be a great day. Aurich won't be getting anything done at work anyways, time to spill.

Would love to see uv paints used on the LE playfield.

#3825 2 years ago

Playfield art looks outstanding. Insert lettering is consistent and easy to read. Different areas give off unique vibes. I didn't have expectations or preconceived images, but really appreciate how the artwork lays out.

I am confident now, in stating that once plastics are revealed and playfield is populated and lit, anyone not already blown away, will be. Playfield art is just one aspect of a complete design, but so far so good. My hunch is that all other parts will be at this same level of design and professionalism.

My main question is how can I help Heighway to put one of these pins in my garage ASAP?

Only design comment - I wish the dropship flame was more realistic. Pefer a mist or smoke style pattern. Think dots or fragments, not solid color. Otherwise I am ready to sign off on it.

#4108 2 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Last PF art that I didn't hear a negative peep about was Metallica.

Yes it was universally embraced as great from the get-go. Which begs the question, If Stern can produce a playfield with such pleasing art, why follow it with TWD (ok) and GOT (less than average)? It implies Stern doesn't what good playfield art should look like and that they leave it up to the individual artist. With MET, Dirty Donny hit one out of the park, but since there is no design sense, it wasn't captured for prosperity. What followed MET design was a resumption of this practive and mediocre work ensued.

edit* - I forgot about KISS, it is really nicely done and received much praise as a result. But Stern has been on quite a dry spell until MET & KISS and quality art direction appears to be total hit or miss.

#4163 2 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

I consider it anti-inspiring. Tone and mood is survival in far space, immersive is the word here. I feel Aurich nailed that.
Adult themed artwork is awesome. I am very pleased with it.

After revisiting this playfield art many times, I stand by my initial response, which was that this design looks fantastic. It will look better once the other parts fill in. I couldn't easily express what others have since stated, that the design is well organized and logical. It also has that quiet, lonely feel of space. Funny thing is, when the version with purple outlines was released, I noticed how especially nice the playfield looked. The line width of the white around the inserts and objects is thin enough that it becomes easily lost. However, because the playfield is dark and brooding, bright purple outlines really pop and tie everything together. It acts like trim around a picture ... or like a rug can do for the room.

So I am now hoping that the inserts and objects will be outlined in purple. Also hoping for uv paints to be used, especially for the central green area, but also on those purple outlines. Work those items in, and you are a wizard in my book.

#4334 2 years ago
Quoted from way2wyrd:

These are some really cool set photos from Alien.
The planet photo looks like they stole it off Aurichs playfield
http://geektyrant.com/news/253-photos-from-the-set-of-ridley-scotts-alien
--Jeff

For some reason my favorite pic of the batch was this. Guess I was fascinated with the practical side of making Alien.

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#4686 2 years ago
Quoted from HeighwayPinball:

Alien Pinball playfield photos will be posted within hours...

what time zone? I've been waiting all morning ...

#4725 2 years ago

Guessing the flippers will be lit because of the cutouts

#4846 2 years ago

Forget about aliens vs predators for a momement. Imagine the ultimate smackdown - Spader Man, Robert Cop 3 Specialman and Space Wars. It would be brutal. Anybody find an Iran Man?

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#5130 2 years ago
Quoted from redundor:

We need to get one of the twitch guys to sneak in there for all of us who can't make it!

I got an itch that can only be satisfied with a twitch.

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#5359 2 years ago

The Zen tables look fantasic. Ductwork and interior wall panels really tie the pin together and set the mood.

#5386 2 years ago

Yes an Alien day update is needed. 420 day, each and every day. Nothing to do here but speculate.

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#5416 2 years ago
Quoted from Half_Life:

Wow! Has this thread taken a turn or what?!

probably

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#5428 2 years ago

Thanks for the update Andrew. Now I am buzzing and really need to see the video. Bring it on FOX .... the gauntlet has been thrown !!! Expedite your review and approval process before ALIEN Day 2016.

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#5443 2 years ago
Quoted from Zampinator:

Yes. On the Left Orbit "C".

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What, only one spinner I'm out.

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#5566 2 years ago

Alright then, no to Tracie and yes to Aliens. What have we got?

#5607 2 years ago

and still ... nothing. At least we're staying on topic. (I think) ;

#5654 2 years ago

Doesn't matter if the video is out of date. It's more current than previous ones that are six+ months old, and interest is high. After showing it, they likely can take and post more informal ones too. We want the video.

#5700 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Guess I will check back in 3 months.

Better brace for a four month hiatus - that gets you to mid Sep. Certainly it should be viewable then, right?

#5707 2 years ago

If I had $10k the possibilities ...

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#5745 2 years ago
Quoted from ZenTron:

I'm sure if you had money in on this game and were skeptical Andrew or a team member can show you some teasers via Skype. Obviously recording would be prohibited and/or an NDA would need to be signed. A private showing doesn't constitute a public viewing and would be within the guidelines set forth by Fox.

Don't they have an app that lets you send an message and video to people to view for a few hours before it disappears? Why couldn't Andrew shoot a few videos and have them on hand to send upon request? I am seriously wondering what the hold up is since they evidentally are not restricted from showing anything to people at shows. Why not add an electronic option at the same time Has anybody seen pics of complete Alien prototype with art? "That is something I would love to see" said Captain Obvious.

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#5816 2 years ago
Quoted from karl:

Andrew is still allowed to drop by and give us a quick update from time to time.
No stasis for me. Even the tiniest tidbits are of interest.

I believe Andrew had fiber for breakfast and a big bowl of raisin bran. Is that the kind of morsel you were hoping?

#5901 2 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

.. I'm fine waiting til summer...then it becomes BS and I'm out.

You have a month until June 20, official start of Summer. I'm pulling for you brother.

#5971 2 years ago

so tempted to drain this thread ... gonna be three months of radio silence from Heighway and 50 nitwits a day, posting here On the other hand, I have so much time invested wading through 5,970 posts of nonsense, why quit now? You haven't. Evidently I don't have anything better to do either. So now dear friends you have 5,971 posts

#5977 2 years ago

wow! a lot of activity here lately. Anything going on???? Bueller, Bueller ???? Aaaaaaaahhhhhh nnnnooooooooooothing is going on around here. Good, carry on.

#5980 2 years ago

everybody wants in on the action.

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#5986 2 years ago

(personal favorite) ...

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#6003 2 years ago

Thread is one year old and includes a number of posts by Heighway. As of right now, 6,003 posts in, does everybody have a picture or video of what the actual game will look or act like? Anybody? I want to see a completed game with - artwork, plastics, rules, sounds, lighting, dmd, trim finish etc. How about that - anybody have pics of that? Well we have seen the playfield, but that one thing was out of context. Have we seen any half-completed elements? NO! Andrew now says he can't show game unitl Fox has approved the whole thing. That's how it is and always has been the whole time apparently. So WTF have we been doing here - other than kidding ourselves?

#6022 2 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Clearly the saddest thing in this thread is jeffspinballpalace train fetish.

Trains are pretty. any pics of Aliens yet???

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#6024 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballRulez:

Sad, just sad. And the saddest thing of all is there is no mod to be seen to stop this nonsense. So Pinside rules have not much meaning anymore.

Yeah its almost like the Mods should lock the thread til Aug to prevent this sorta thing. We have learned little about Alien pinball and seen even less in this thread. When we do get the reveal is when the thread will add value. Until then .. it is officially wasting everybody's time. So who's to say one person's nonsensical posts are any better than the next guy's. We are all on a raft floating in the ocean and have nothing but vast amounts of time on our hands. We should take every effort to make the best of our time together as we drift and wait, and wait and wait. I am spending my time thinking about trains right now.

To answer your question, we got pinball rules and Pinballrulz is here to stay. The home brew Archer thread has shown a real shooting Whitewood vid with rules and sounds and toys in a real cabinet. That's exciting and its not even an official pin yet.

#6029 2 years ago

Yeah, good train gifs are getting harder to find these are pretty mesmerizing.

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#6033 2 years ago

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#6143 2 years ago

come on guys play nice or Aurich won't post here any more.

I was shocked to learn in roughly the last 100 posts - 1) confirmation we can't see anthing until Fox approves everything 2) confirmation there is a video and 3) the process for viewing this video that includes game play, art, toys, sounds, rules etc - is to attend a show that Andrew is also planning to attend. Then track him down, and once he finishes his presentation or game or conversation, ask to see the video. Still scratching my head at this solution, but ok. Then I saw a fantastic collection of train gifs. Aurich provided some background license stuff. Nothing to report by Heighway about why the confusion that everybody was expecting one thing and now they tell us differently. Oh yeah, a couple of guys can get bent for having to flip through extra posts in a thread that is 99.999% certified bs. OUTRAGEOUS. Even RulezPoliz backed down from the ledge and agreed not to file a pinside restraining order ... AND YET We still continue waiting here. Waiting and hoping, jumping at every new post, imagining a morsel of news, a trinket, or the ultimate nugget - a pic. Oblivious to the reality that you won't be seeing something before August. STOP hoping things will be different. They will not and if you believe otherwise, you are delusional. BUT we have a solution that allows you to see the coveted video. Guess I'll have to head over to one of those pinball shows to see it in person. SINCE NOW this is an option. For the record, those trains gifs were above average material for this thread.

To see the latest Alien Pinball machine, I would need to travel to a pinball show, right? And since this is the OFFICIAL Alien thread, I would expect to see that information prominently displayed, right? I mean there are already 6,143 valuable posts in this thread. If the pinball show schedule is posted somewhere above, point it out. I need to know when to plan my vacation and when to dress in full stalker mode.

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#6241 2 years ago

good update Aurich, to see the video of Alien pinball that is floating around, we can find either Andrew or David Thiel at a pinball show and ask to see it, right? So far, David said he was going to NW pinball show. Are there orther shows that either of these guys are planning to travel that can be annouced here? If anyone else is considering going to their local show and catching one of these guys, it would be nice to know and to plan ahead for the possibility of watching the video.

#6244 2 years ago

We'd love to see you three in SFGE in Atlanta in two weeks I think David might be scheduled for a seminar too. If so that would be good, but mostly thinking - any of you with copy of video that will be available at an upcoming show should mention here in one location. More to come I'm sure.

#6294 2 years ago

Getting excited, "Oh hell yeah, baby"! Layout might be the thing that really cements the game - it manages to look both unique and fun.

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#6388 2 years ago
Quoted from accidental:

..."score a jackpot with all 3 balls in play", "max the bonus multiplier", "shoot 20 total ramp shots"...

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#6414 2 years ago

How about everybody that puts in 3 quarters wins a trophy

#6436 2 years ago
Quoted from PinPatch:

The guy that was in the alien suit was Nigerian.

Was the actor legitimately in country? I'd hate to think our Alien was a .... you know ...illegal alien.

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#6499 2 years ago
Quoted from TaylorVA:

Will someone send me a link to the video? Thanks

A public run-in with police gone wrong, a private tape showing the encounter appears and is shown on cable and internet, repeatedly. Secret recordings of two people in the bedroom is available to anyone that wants to look.

When a video of a cool new pinball machine gets made, security is tighter than a gold vault at Fort Knox. For six months, a handful of people have had access to a copy and no uncontrolled leaks. Where is Snowden when you need him? Andrew is building Alien, but his product with the most value - cyber security. I too am resigned to waiting, but isn't it ironic?

#6556 2 years ago
Quoted from Manic:

Make sure to include her great cringe worthy line "They're DEAD! All DEAD. Can I go now??!!"

Good one and definitely use - My mommy always said there were no monsters, no real ones, but there are.

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#6661 2 years ago

Andrew,

You still on track for revealing a production game by end of August?

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#6910 2 years ago
Quoted from txstargazer3:

I think the dark and moody look of Alien and the colorful and loud Full Throttle make a great pairing for Heighway's first two games. The contrast is essential to entice pinheads to buy both games (which is at the core of the conversion kit concept). It worked for me!

Can you give us a breakdown of costs? Maybe in three buckets: FTLE, large screen upgrade and Alien upgrade kit.

#6969 2 years ago

Nice effort. Game will be even greener once fiber optics on ramps are turned on.

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#7155 2 years ago
Quoted from paul_8788:

Quick! Someone drive over there and take a picture through the window!!!!

Can just make out a faint reflection of the playfield on the window. Maybe someone can magnify and enhance.

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#7234 2 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

... I don't think anyone will be disappointed in the audio work David Thiel has done for this game.

That's a high bar around here. Because of certain members and because David T is expected to deliver an intense, tension building, ground trembling experience that is delivered in a crisp, crystal clear manner. All right then, can't wait

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#7310 2 years ago
Quoted from robotron:

chrome aliens le with invisiglass and backglass lcd with full thottle extra playfield. well my poor wife and kids are gonna have a light christmas this year!!!

Like everything you've picked out and guess you mean large vs small lcd screen. You need a shaker too, right? As we are going to wait 14 days for real info, what do you speculate that might cost prior to shipping? I am thinking $9.5kish maybe.

#7387 2 years ago

^^ don't let that hugger anywhere near your face.

Facehugger - The facehugger is a parasitoid; its only purpose is to make contact with the host's mouth for the implantation process, by gripping its legs around the victim's head and wrapping its tail around the host's neck. Upon making contact, the facehugger administers a cynose-based paralytic in order to render it unconscious.[32][33] During a successful attachment, the facehugger will insert a proboscis down the host's throat, supplying it with oxygen[9] while simultaneously implanting an embryo. Attempts to remove facehuggers generally prove fatal,[1] as the parasitoid will respond by tightening its tail around the host's neck, and its acidic blood prevents it from being safely cut away. In addition, its grip on the host's head is strong enough to tear the host's face off if it is forcibly removed.[9]
Once the Alien embryo is safely implanted, the facehugger detaches, crawls away and dies.

#7484 2 years ago
Quoted from Jgaltr56:

Cointaker SE includes 27" large screen and black trim last time I checked.

Quoted from FlipperFreak:

Cointaker includes the 27" upgrade on FT's ...a $550 upgrade. I think with the free shipping you'll find it works out the same.

Mystery solved, thanks guys. Heard CT's prices were the same but it never seemed to add up, until now. Add extra features you want anyways and boom exact same. Looks like all Distributer pricing is the same.

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#7534 2 years ago
Quoted from schwarz:

a man who does not own a pinball machine is also a man but an inferior man

..and he won't be getting any chicks either, until he sells his arcade games and buys some pinball machines.

#7616 2 years ago

Thanks for the state of the union assessment and high quality writeup rubberducks. Your investigative skills turned up a few surprises and the tone of the piece seemed both realistic and neutral.

#7673 2 years ago
Quoted from dannunz:

I really think the game needs to be at expo working well or it will be a big missed opportunity for heighway pinball.

Same comment about the video. If not approved by Expo, just edit some blurs in and rest of the camera work could be enjoyed.

#7957 2 years ago
Quoted from zeddex:

How dare they remove the manual plunger!

Nobody considers those to be real pinball machines?

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#8015 2 years ago

Works for me. 10:30EST or 9:30CST

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#8558 2 years ago

Reveal was well done. Having hi-rez pics, a cool video, prices for add-ons and a new website was/is spectacular. Only saw one video of gameplay from Expo, and nobody realized so much of the coding was done until Ferret just stated 90 percent. When can we see a writeup of the rules? I'd love to start thinking about the general game and all the ins, outs and what have you's. .

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#9201 2 years ago

Watched Alien on cable today and really enjoyed all the goo dripping from the Xeno's. Guess there's no way to incorporate it in the game, but it would be sweet. In one scene Segourny walled into room of hatching eggs and destroys everything with flame thrower. Goo splatters all over her face and torso, but it didn't burn her at all. Thought alien fluids were acidic by nature. That scene stood out among many silly inaccuracies. There probably are hundreds.

I couldn't see the lighted inside panels well during the game reveal, are they scenes. from inside the ship (fingers crossed)?

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#9282 2 years ago

t-minus four hours and counting ....

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#9295 2 years ago

Wow. now that's the way to use a license.

#9307 2 years ago
Quoted from maf-mi:

After watching the video and the graphic chestbuster scene, is there going to be a setting that is suitable for young children?

why? Both Alien movies were R rated and this pin starts with that as source material. Now, if they wanted to add some extra dialog including swearing and obsenities (think RZ), then I could see why you might want to have an option to tone it down some. But on Alien ... no such feature has ever been requested before - FAIL.

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#9745 1 year ago
Quoted from Pincycle:

I am going tomorrow with the Proto Alien Pinball to Freddy's Pinball Paradise in Germany.
So I have done an initial rule sheet in which you are maybe also interested (in English).
http://www.rs-pinball.at/alien-regelwerk/
I have not written down the rules of the single modes till now, but the document will go on.
Br
Stefan From RS-PINBALL http://www.rs-Pinball.at

Thanks for the rulesheet. Screen captures help explain a lot too. You da man!

#9911 1 year ago

HeighwayPinball - Andrew

Now you've finalized the concept of using a third lcd screen at queen's chamber, is it SAFE to assume kits will start shipping by end of Feb and LE's will start flowing by April?

#9912 1 year ago

Usually I am not one to get excited about an announced movie sequels, but something about Alien that has me jazzed (probably because of all the Alien talk here and the idea of receiving my very own Alien/Aliens pin). Maybe the movie will be out by next Christmas. Story below:

Alien 5 Will Be Worth The Wait, According To Sigourney Weaver
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Alien 5 is definitely happening at some point in the future. At least that’s what everyone involved with it keeps saying as it gets delayed further and further. To be written and directed by Neil Blomkamp, the film is supposed to be a return to form for the Alien franchise and will focus once again on Sigourney Weaver’s infamous Ripley. While the film was supposed to arrive in 2017, it got delayed so that Ridley Scott’s Prometheus sequel, Alien: Covenant would go first. We haven’t heard many details on the progress of the movie in a while, but Sigourney Weaver says that, slowly but surely, it’s still coming.

Talking with Indiewire, Sigourney Weaver was able to divulge some information on the film. Asked about the progress on the film and if it were still in development, Weaver had this to say:
Well, I think it is. Ridley asked Neill not to make our Alien 'til after Prometheus 2. [Ridley] wanted his movie to shoot and be released first. But it’s an amazing script, and Neill and I are really excited about doing it. We’re doing other things until we can get going on that. I’d be really surprised if we didn't do it, because it’s such a great script, and we love working together. So, it’s just going to take a little bit longer to get out to you, but it’ll be worth the wait.

The take away from this is that, yes, it’s coming, and it’ll be better than Alien: Resurrection. It was previously rumored that Alien 5 would be more of a direct sequel to Aliens, while mostly ignoring the other sequels (kind of like what Jurassic World did). While an actor claming that a movie they’re in will be good isn’t exactly a promise of quality, I’m ready for a new Alien film. It seems only right with Predator getting a new film, that the other big alien monster from the eighties should get a comeback as well.

It’s still unclear exactly what Alien: Covenant is about, but it seems that there will be a connection to Neil Blomkamp's Alien 5, with the Prometheus sequel serving as a sort of lead-in. While most likely no one is more excited to see a Prometheus sequel before an actual Alien movie, the title indicates that it will try to provide less giant blue people and more face huggers.

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#9932 1 year ago
Quoted from tp:

With so many pages ...
Can someone please list the least expensive option to bring this machine to my gameroom? I would want the one with the lcd screen in the backbox. Thanks.

Looks like $6.5k plus shipping.

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#9988 1 year ago
Quoted from way2wyrd:

The Game was only announced 2 years ago. Quit exagerating

at least he didn't say it was three years late

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#10358 1 year ago
Quoted from neverahighscore:

For all you LE pre-order's. What do you think will be the actual time frame when the game is delivered to you. My guess at this point would be April, 2017. I'm dying every time I see more released. I'm soooo... hyped!!!

I'll be happier to see the kits and standard Aliens flowing soon. That will be a better indicator of when LE's might ship. Once the first batch of 20 Aliens leaves - add four weeks for the first LE's to start shipping (my guess). That is likely when we'll be discussing the ideal ratio of Std/LE's making it off the assembly line.

#10491 1 year ago

more like hysteria, but it's all good.

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#10649 1 year ago
Quoted from shovelhed:

I also would love a rotisserie like andrews as well.

Maybe it will be added to the store as an option. Don't know how much more they would go for, but it would be great to have one and cool if it shipped same time as the game. This could be a whole new market for Heighway.

#10803 1 year ago
Quoted from Kevlar:

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It may be a few months short of when others begin claiming this game is awesome on many levels. But once HP gets beyond the circuit board and a/v issues, this game will have a lot going for it. It has a main screen in playfield and extra rules screen on playfield, a huge LCD in back box, color changing ramps, great art direction and theme integration. Over the top sounds, great rules, unique toys and beautiful art work.

Can hardly wait any longer. I'd love to be surprised to learn HP had 120 games built and waiting on boards to arrive. That is second only to learning 120 board sets had been delivered and tested at HP.

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#11094 1 year ago

This game is going to be HUGE! It is a widebody, you know. Lots going on and as great as it looks and sounds and plays, I feel the lighted ramps will set this game on fire. Heighway Pinball to ramp up production and get these games shipping faster.

#11187 1 year ago

to keep things moving Heighway. I'll bet the guy in the truck doesn't realize there's an "alien" in the box.

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#11634 1 year ago

1) Any plans for Heighway to release a digital version of their pinball machines? Possible partnership with Pinball FX2?

2) New boards still expected tomorrow? Anxiously awaiting more games to be shipped.

#11826 1 year ago

2 + 1 + 6 games shipped = sh@t just got real.

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#12233 1 year ago

Can someone ask them how the 3 Aliens have been holding up so far? Guess each should have seen about one day's worth of use.

#12311 1 year ago

^^ dang, nothing good ever follows me home.

congrats, and we won't expect you to update your collection until next weekend.

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#12565 1 year ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

no news cat fight bump...

normally I'm against fighting of any kind to resolve issues. But do enjoy a good girls cat fight with sound turned up, bump.

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#12631 1 year ago
Quoted from Ive:

Spent some time on Alien last night.
Very very impressed.

Was it of this earth?

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#14162 1 year ago

Yes I'd like to from Heighway 1) are the games being shipped considered final-final 2) how many games were shipped last week, this week and planned for each of next two weeks 3) is anything still being engineered and what is the prognosis 4) are there any parts outstanding and what is the prognosis 5) are there any other impediments to production.

While other questions linger, the answers to these would help explain what's happening.

#14574 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

My INTENT, was to get some communication going and find out what the FACTS are:
1) Poor Customer Service, factual
2) People fighting to get a refund, factual
3) Delay after delay, lie after lie by Andrew, factual
Andrew has the ability to fix things and there are ZERO excuses, its all on him to deliver the pinball machines that he took our $$$ for.
The result is we now have some communication after total radio silence.
Patience is the only option now so i hope we get good news.
The DP and JPOP situation went way too long before any help could fix things. Ask for the help, people are very forgiving if you are up front and honest about your situation.

Any credible (or noncredible) sources want to share what we might expect to hear in a day or two? I am a concerned paid-in-fool LE customer who does not appreciate having to read a pinball thread every day to weigh events and decide whether to stay invested while Heighway Pinball isn't communicating issues with their own customers. With few deliveries to early buyers (many of whom should be on Pinside), missed deadlines without explanation, some lies by and radio silence since from Heighway, unfilled requests for refunds, hints of espionage, this game is starting to OFFER IT ALL.

WTF is going on Andrew? As of today I'd like my game or my money! I don't mind keeping my deposit with you a little longer, but Heighway Pinball asking for balance of my payment while implying manufacturing was imminent, was over the line. I'd like that amount returned, while awaiting your public explanation of what has transpired the past six months soon, no later than 05/31, Wed midnight. Until then I am left with a vivid imagination and idle time to ponder the possibilities. Ok let's see what could be learned in a few days ....

1) there has been an embargo by vendors preventing delivery of parts and it has been resolved 2) Heighway's bad company credit is causing them to pay up front costs for everything and that money is now gone. 3) some significant part of game is planned for extinction for technical reasons (probably led ramps) 4) there is an unexpected price increase of $500 due now because of currency fluctuations 5) a new $250k line of credit was extended by a bank and now things will be moving quickly 6) abandonment of manufacturing faculty and announcement that game will be made in US on contract basis 7) a buyer has stepped up to purchase because it is so profitable and will require three months to close Heighway Pinball LTD and move assests between companies.license needed to be renewed since first 3 year period has expired. Now resolved it's full steam ahead.

I don't pretend to present any facts, just theories trying to assess things and I am crossing my fingers I wasn't taken for a van ride around the block, dragged thru a construction site and shoved down the port-a potty hole before being unceremonious dumped on.

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My suggestion to Andrew is provide a statement with answers now and the rest of details can follow in a few days, but now is the time to grab the bull by his horns and to identify the problems, provide answers, have a good cry and take the medicine.

#14601 1 year ago
Quoted from ZenTron:

People wouldn't have to ask for refunds if they had their games. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There's something Dude-like or even Zenish about your thoughts.

#14629 1 year ago
Quoted from lapean111:

Just spoke with Melissa at Cointaker, and she talked me off the ledge. She couldn't give details, but said everyone will be happy with the announcement.

everyone only thing I know of that can fit that bill is free money. I'll take a handful please.

#14676 1 year ago

heard it's good news and that we'll know it any day now.

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#14692 1 year ago
Quoted from TimberOne:

Where are you guys finding these Stern Starwars rumors? I am getting ready to fill in the hole where the Alien is supposed to go eventually with a game and would like to know more about a star wars pin.

Welcome, and you've come to the right place to learn all about SW.

#14711 1 year ago
Quoted from HeighwayPinball:

Lack of communication is unacceptable. There are reasons why this hasn't been happening, but it is unacceptable nonetheless.
Much better customer services is a must, moving forwards.

So what's the good news everybody's going to like? Still awaiting news from Heighway Pinball on the return of my 2nd payment to reduce my commitment on Aliens to $1,500.




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#14713 1 year ago

Initial payment payment was $1,500 downpayment. 2nd payment of balance due was made in October 2016 when Andrew claimed the games were in production and ramping up ... send money soon. I am requesting a return of my second payment until my game has been made. I am waiting the upcoming announcement to decide what to do with the downpayment and hope to stay in.

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Quoted from pincil8:

What number did you use?

I emailed Heighway, contacted my credit card company, posted on this thread and tried calling directly without success (got a change of phone number message when I tried calling). Doesn't seem like anyone is home. What number can they be reached and what's the secret password for the back channel?

#14729 1 year ago

Well, my fingers are crossed there's a deal in the works. Lots of grumblings here about a takeover and one hint about things occurring closer than expected (within US)? My guess is AP bought them and will begin manufacturing Aliens immediately on a second line next to Houdini.

ps - the opinions expressed are just my hunch to feed on until Andrew comes out!

#14761 1 year ago

Things are looking worse for Heighway Pinball LLC with each passing day and no word. 10 days ago I began sending Heighway Pinball multiple emails, have left voicemails and instructed my credit card company to reach out to Heighway Pinball to request the return of my $6,425 payment. To date there has been no acknowledgement by Heighway of any of these requests. Not one returned email or phone call saying, we received your request and will or will not be able to honor it. They should have responded to each and every one, instead, they seem content giving me, a paid-in-full customer, the middle finger and hearty FU.

I am expecting to see a class action thread against Heighway Pinball LLC thread pop up soon, and I’ll be signing up.

Has anybody taken the factory tour of Heighway lately?

#14781 1 year ago
Quoted from J85M:

...Ultimately we all want to see Heighway work through the problems they may have going on behind the scenes and sell as many Aliens possible and become a big player in the pinball business. Thanks

I challenge Heighway Pinball LLC to a game of truth or dare. My dare is they must deliver every game paid for and return deposit money for unproduced games. Instead they can chose truth and admit there is a problem(s) and explain what they are. Adding possible solutions would be a welcomed bonus. Heighway is actively engaged in a game of Hide and Seek.

#15063 1 year ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

I wish there was a west coast distributor.

You are still talking pinball and not pizza or pot, right?

#15095 1 year ago
Quoted from SadSack:

If Andrew is "gone", the transition has failed. If no one responds to the PP disputes, this suggests to me that Andrew has some physical or mental breakdown going on. It's totally in Andrew's interest to smooth the transition. Can anyone verify that Andrew has abandoned the operation before he has a deal?

Man overboard!! Last heard from here 10 days ago. Wish he was still engaged in the transition. At least he quickly turned over customer lists and company files (presumably) as the new Owners used them this week to send emails. Still awaiting word of the new company's formation.

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#15233 1 year ago
Quoted from PeterG:

Maybe I missed it, but are you all ignoring the fact that a mans dream has been shattered. It seems like we are just going to business as usual. Discussing Alien, Aliens, blah blah blah.
I know Andrew did not all things right, but it was a man with a pinball dream and that is now gone.
Best of luck to Andrew and his family. Hope he will return to pinball in another role someday. And he is still the guy that brought you Alien pinball.

Andrew developed a great pin, but ran his company into the ground and almost buried the game forever. Fortunately, he found buyers hiding as minor investors and was wise enough to transfer ownership. Hope the new investors can refund everyone's money shortly and that they can prepare for production over the next few months. I am strongly interested in one when they are readily available.

Watched both Alien and Aliens again today. Both were engaging but Paxton in Aliens complains more than all the marines I've ever seen on screen - combined. Think I read he was hired late and missed the one week marine boot camp. Fortunately, he has most of the best dialog and much of it is in the game.

#15251 1 year ago

back on topic. An update on my refund process ....

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

So what's the good news everybody's going to like? Still awaiting news from Heighway Pinball on the return of my 2nd payment to reduce my commitment on Aliens to $1,500.

05/29 - requested a refund from Heighway via email of $6,425 balance paid. No response received.

05/29 - initiated a dispute with American Express for $6,425 ($1,500 deposit was made 17 months prior).

06/05 - received introduction email from Heighway.

06/06 - requested a refund from Heighway via email of $6,425 and $1,500 downpayment. No response received.

06/16 - credit card dispute for $6,425 was resolved in my favor and that money was refunded.

06/19 - spoke to credit card rep to confirm money had posted. He thanked me for being a valued member.

06/19 - requested a refund of my $1,500 deposit from Heighway. Awaiting response. (still want the game - but not until design bugs are resolved and for game to be in stock. Planning to downgrade from an LE to a STD with shaker).

'#thinkingofpreorderingapinball-justsayno

#15275 1 year ago
Quoted from JeffF:

Any idea if Heighway responded to American Express?
And awesome that you got a big portion of your funds back. Good luck on the $1500. Again, an easy way for the "new" company to show good will is staring them in the face here...

Unsure whether HP responded or if the cc company acted unilaterally. HP has not responded to any of my emails, so all signs point to a non-assist.

#15349 1 year ago
Quoted from Ferret:

Well. When I posted that last night, I certainly didn't envision it turning into a lengthy discussion of my paycheck...
I am a professional software developer. Writing code and getting paid for doing so is how I pay my bills. Last I looked, the lights are still working, and if this message goes through, my ISP bill is also paid up. There is no need for any of y'all to worry about my financial status.
Unless the new investment/management team at Heighway Pinball decides to terminate my contract (and I have no reason to believe that's imminent), I intend to do everything I can to make Alien's software the best it can be.

ferret - the old company was called Heighway Pinball LLC (HP) - same as the reorganized one - right? I am asking because if you were contracted under HP and the new company had changed names, then you wouldn't still be under contract as you've stated. Of course neither would the new Owners be expected to automatically inherit the Alien(s) license to make pinball machines without additional steps. Pretty sure it is accurate to say the new company is still called Heighway Pinball LLC, and since you are intimately involved, can you confirm this is your understanding too?

On the question of whether you are compensated, a company will typically not issue the latest software or software updates if it owes the software developer for work. Primarily this is in regards to a hostile situation between parties. I am glad you are continuing to work on the software and are making significant progress. Hoping you are/will be compensated and that software updates flow. Some of us would have heartburn enjoying a game knowing that the creditors (vendors who did the work) got stiffed (see J-POP saga).

#15352 1 year ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

No - that depends entirely on how the company's assets and liabilities are transferred or not between entities - nothing to do with names.
There is nothing to suggest yet the company has changed legal entities at all. In fact, we have the financial filings that show they are the SAME company - as they promoted the new investors as officers of the company and removed Andrew. If they changed again after that... they would have transferred all the assets to the new business.
successors take the position of the former generally unless there are terms written to exclude transfers, etc.

I see now in the heighway rebirth thread - the new owner's advocate refers to the company as Heighway Pinball Ltd. This would indeed be different than any similar reading companies that are LLC's. Likely the new owners will have acquired (absorbed) Heighway Pinball LLC anyways. That would include transferring of existing licenses, subcontracts and purchase orders for example. Makes sense ferret would still be under contract then.

#15386 1 year ago

Investor deposits should have cleared the bank, any deposits returned yet? Awaiting announcement of the team and their roles. I want to know who's in charge of engineering to ask whether each design issue has been resolved. If new team Project Manager claims there are none, it suggests they still don't have a handle on their product. If they come clean and offer plans to attack the issues, they will earn some credibility.

#15389 1 year ago
Quoted from fishbone:

I believe they said they would only provide updates on Facebook and their website.

Website looks the same as it has for past three months. Owners group also promised they would be calling customers and start reaching out by now. Anybody received a call from Heighway-New yet?

So they have promised to call customers directly and provide info via Facebook and website and three weeks after the announcement there is nothing. Silence isn't always a good policy unless you are trying to disappear, in which case it is recommended.

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#15404 1 year ago

Received an email from Morgan @ Heighway Pinball today stating they are working to return my outstanding refund request. Their records confirmed return of my second payment and acknowledged my $1,500 deposit. This news was promising as it: 1) was initiated by HP 2) was addressed to me 3) accurately reflected my account status 4) acknowledged my refund request 5) indicated intent is to honor refunds and soon 6) indicates HP has a grasp on their financials and 7) indicates concrete steps are taking place. Are we starting to see results from their new plan? Will be following developments closely, but I feel better about HP today because of their improved communication.

#15417 1 year ago

Looks like an active industrial zone, even if google maps isn't "live".

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#15425 1 year ago
Quoted from bemmett:

I can't get a response from the new investors/owners as usual but Melissa was kind enough to call me when I asked for clarification. It makes sense what she was saying in how they have indeed been told games could be shipping within the month and needed to collect money for payments in advance. They were obviously in on some early orders as well. All of this is fine with me as long as I am contacted too in the near future for shipping of mine as I was "suckered" into paying back 6 months ago in full and was one of their first 10 orders received when this was originally sold. I hope it works for all in the end but really hope they don't start pulling BS of screwing people with money in longer to get fresh money in along the way but I don't think that is what this situation is from what I understand.

... meanwhile back at Heighway Pinball World Headquarters, workers are frantically searching files for someone named bemmet who may or may not be wearing a Packers helmet. Boss says send him to the top! GLWYP (pin)

#15443 1 year ago
Quoted from kurgan999:

great news mr Ddt !
this game is gonna be groundbreaker when totally completed/finished !
cheers

... and is shipping in big numbers. Enough so to make it seem like it's rainy Alien(s) everywhere!

#15447 1 year ago

Will we ever learn what happened to the money? A push to bring in funds at HP occurred between Oct-Dec 2016, after mission complete signals were indicated by Andrew. Compared against reports of unpaid employees, vendors and suppliers, I wonder if the money was used to payoff legitimate bills and debt, or whether it was jacked by Andrew for hydrofoil related expenses. I know this will be considered private business, but a response will shape my opinion of Andrew. I'd like to know if Andrew's intent was to do what it took to help the project succeed or if it was to run away and abandon the project, taking his golden parachute. Does anybody know anything? If you are speculating or interpretting the tea leaves that's fine, just include a disclaimer to your response.

#15452 1 year ago

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#15740 1 year ago

brian-allen the prints look superb. Any chance of printing these on a translite format so they can be backlit?

#15866 1 year ago

Watched Alien stream on YouTube and was excited to see it shooting so well, while looking and sounding so fantastic. Even without v.99, the code shines and is getting further polish.

Of newest releases, Aliens still interests me the most. Overtaking the field of new two flipper contestants - Houdini, Star Wars, Dialed-In and TnA. While these games are appealing and look fun, if you are considering bringing one home, it should have what you want. Hours of immersion in Alien(s) is what I look forward to.

#15886 1 year ago

Rulesheet looks good. Would be nice to add a shot map or a link to one, making it easier to follow along with the script.

#15923 1 year ago

Does LE still have the great looking backglass? If you get the SE, can you buy a translite of same design?

#15964 1 year ago
Quoted from onedeath:

Yes it did and everything is being taken care of as always.

Did you vacuum it out yet?

#16064 1 year ago
Quoted from Kevlar:

There's a price in the UK for an Alien kit, try not to laugh too much. They won't be selling any here.

Don't get your point. Kits are £2.5k ($3k USD) less than a full machine, and that seems fair. A populated / wired playfield offered at 65% of cost. Exact figure affected by shipping cost, which may be $0 if purchased at same time as full size game ships.

While maybe his is higher than desired, imagine if you were space confined and you buy a full size Alien and 2 future kits over next five years. You can store two kits under the cabinet and swap a game out in 10 minutes. Because you bought 2 kits, you've saved $£5k ($6USD) and avoided pissing off the wife.

It is a good system, but only if Heighway Pinball continues to build and introduce new titles. Otherwise, it is an unrecognized advantage / benefit.

#16163 1 year ago

Since greenhornet is great fellow for pin-teching a tournament, I'll play. He is hinting that the design flaw can be validated by something than is measured and verifiable by the audits.

Are the # of left - center - right drains tragically out of balance? Are the # scoop ejects fatally flawed? There are three ramps - but I can't see a good way to measure the # of times they've been hit, unless some opto's are found to be habitually nonworking. The audits reveal # of Xeno hits or misses compared to some number of switch hits, am I getting warm? There is no good way to measure amount of use or accuracy of each of 4 flippers I can think of. Maybe everyone likes to restart the game after a sh@tty ball 1, so # of balls and # of games played could help. The game is obviously dark near the upper right flipper and it is hard to easily find the flipper. That can be easily fixed so I wouldn't consider that earth shattering research. Maybe one of the switches doesn't compute score correctly or some other software bug is present that is totally unacceptable to a pinball wizard ????

Don't know about this one, still scratching my head greenhornet A few people are receiving their machine this next week, so if you intend to warn people away, you better get started. Holding my breath in 3-2-1 go! BTW - if your thesis is weeks away, how about giving us the long-winded, scientific title of your work as a hint?

#16201 1 year ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

A 45' foot C-container takes 3 weeks to arrive from Southhampton England. Another 5-7 days customs approval.
A 45' can hold 45 full size pins on pallets. A 20' can hold 21, 3 rows of 7. It does depend on size of pallet.
Not sure how they would get 50 in one container.
Real question is, has a container left, and when?

That's assuming they are shipped by sea. Andrew maintained he had an inexpensive air/truck delivery to US that was the same price as ship/truck. If new owners have something similar, shipping 50 games to one location should be a piece of cake.

#16285 1 year ago
Quoted from nman:

That's some good news at least.
I just sent them an email asking, in part, about both the LE concessions and the possibility of a downgrade, but it doesn't sound like i should expect an answer anytime soon if Morgan is out.
Still haven't decide if i want a standard instead, but if they're going to try to force me into current pricing that's nearly as high as what the LE was when i put down my deposit almost two years ago, I'm likely going to revisit whether i want to be their customer at all.
It'd be a shame if it came to that because this is both a dream theme of mine and it looks to be an excellent game, but I don't see expecting them to honor the prices at time of deposit as being unreasonable, regardless of which machine it's for and im not going to be forced into an LE that's been stripped to the point that it doesn't truly have anything extra i want.

You'll likely be offered same deal as Cointaker can give their customers. I am imagining a wag of less than $600, but that once it is factored into your prepaid LE, will make it worth your while. Add some extras and you'll be there! Is Morgan still on holiday?

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#16515 1 year ago
Quoted from onedeath:

All I know is my Alien is playing OK at the Cleveland pinball show. XENO is disabled due to the glass issue but everything else is working and code 0.98 is not bad, can't wait for 1.00.

Have you heard anything about the process for upgrading software? 1.0 has been out for almost a week, no?

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#16682 1 year ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

they are trying to help temper your expectations and enthusiasm a bit. The game has been "almost" shipping for literally a year unfortunately.

Not only that, some defy the space time continuum. As reported, two weeks ago the container had shipped and was being delayed by storms. Then, one week ago the container was promised to ship no later than last Friday. Now, plans point to container shipping this week. When it does, there will likely be pics and we'll be tracking it here closely.

#16768 1 year ago
Quoted from hocuslocus:

yup, nothing new yet... once a week, I optimistically open this thread, and leave a little more depressed every time.

Lower your expectations and you'll be fine.

#16898 1 year ago

Have never been more excited about a new pin release as I am for Alien. Great to hear they are being made and shipped, albeit way too slowly. Hope to get one from Cointaker next year, after reading all the posts confirming the game plays reliably and inventory is available. No need to make a deposit now.

Thanks for the video pinballrulez . IMO the sound package is best implementation to date - ever. The sound effects are outstanding and are sprinkled in with so much variety that they practically become another character in the cast. They set an eerie mood and combine to resonate a frequency that rattles the nerves. Thanks daudioguy

#16903 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr68:

That may be true but given Heighway's present situation, it's just poor form in my opinion. It should have been suffering, loyal customers first.

Even from the docks you should now have a tracking number with GPS so you can follow the ship along its entire journey. Check in as often as you like and it will look like the attached picture. Your boat will be individually identified so you can pick it out of a seemly global mess. See "Seoul Express" in red box for example.
Have you guys gotten that tracking number and website yet?

Yes they should have been given a tracking number and ship name no later than when games leave the dock. If I recall correctly, many people used vessel finder when the honorable Captain Joseph Hazelwood piloted a shipment of TBL's aboard the Delphinus from Netherlands into NYC port.