Quoted from SuperNinjaMonkey:All my pins are prem except for turtles the pro is just better plays fast and more flowly. It's just a better set up, it's the reason the pro is ranked higher then the prem. Theres a place i go to in LA called revenge of, they have an insane collection of pins and all them are prem or LE's, all with toppers it's insane. The place has 26 pinball machines. The only one that is a pro is turtles in the entire place. I'm almost always a prem guy but the pro on turtles is just better.
It's the reason you can still go on various sites and easily get a prem but you can't find NIB pros anymore, and it's too bad since they retired TMNT.
I'm going to respectfully disagree.
I had both the pro and the premium and I upgraded from the pro to the premium and like it MUCH better, while the changes are subtle and probably not woth 2.65K difference I think they are important
here's what I liked about the premium over the pro
1) premium doesn't launch to the pop bumpers it launches to the left flipper. While you can launch the pro to the left flipper I don't like having the pop bumpers able to hit at launch, to me having the pop bumpers get easily hit removes a otherwise semi tough shot and makes it kind of a "gimme" and slows the game start too. having it not go there actually makes the pop bumper basically a new "shot" that the pro doesn't have because you never need to shoot it.
2) The ramp that launches the ball around it just cool and feels good, also it makes the left flipper to center ramp a bit easier
3) the glider diversion! this is my favorite thing, the glider adds a little more play and flexibility
4) the glider "power up" shot, here you shoot from the right to the left ramp and it will redirect back to the right flipper so you can kind of "loop" these shots which is fun and is another way of getting's points/shots as when you want to "cash" out you can hit the glider and then hit the right lane to cash out.
I love turtle both pro and premium but pro seemed a little "weak" not many shots and some where EXTREMELY hard (center ramp and lair), I found the pop bumpers annoying with the pro and it seemed like a waste. the premium removes the annoynance, speeds up the game and actually adds effectively a shot as you have to shoot them now (which is not super easy) to get them.
this doesn't mention the spinner which goes two ways... not really sure that adds much
or the 8 ball multiball
or whatever is special about the lair in the premium that I don't really get.
basically numbers 1-4 above I think are subtle but add a lot tot he game.
I also think long term the premium will have better resale value (I dont' usually sell my pins so that doesn't bother me) or trade value esp now they are not made.
just my 2 cents. there's a lot of cheap premiums out there and if you can get one Id' get it in a heartbeat over the pro.
for me I basically traded my pro with 1500K plays + $1000 to upgrade to a less than 100 play premium and got the insider connected. for that price it was a no brainer. for 3K I dont know. but with the deals on premiums I'd get a premium if you can.