Considering that many like to lean on the pin at a 45 degree angle as they play, I doubt there was any collision between the pin and the player.

I just love scratches on my play field glass. Too bad these are too fay away.

GRC has one up for sale and are calling it "Politically incorrect".

Estate Sale Wichita KS

Williams Seven Up pin for sale.

https://www.estatesales.net/KS/Haysville/67060/2681064
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I am going to check this sale out in the morning for several items that will be selling. . I am not interested in this pin. I can look at it for you if you are interested. I am not equipped to offer any help beyond looking or talking to the seller. PM me if interested.

If it was a Canada Dry I would not have mentioned it But you do have good taste.

I saw this when you had it at TPF. I was impressed with the quality of the workmanship. You know that if you miss drill a hole in a piece of wood, you fill it, paint it and hide it. The clear plexiglass is not as forgiving.

Yeah. it needs to be hanging from the wall of a Cracker Barrel.

Can we see it, too? Please.

That pantyhose machine was probably selling L'eggs pantyhose. They were sold in a container shaped like a plastic egg.

I am a guy. But there was no way you could avoid the L'eggs commercials. I can sing the TV jingles to this day.

It is interesting to read how the pantyhose industry went into decline just by women's office wear becoming more casual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27eggs

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Nowadays, if the deal is a steal and too good to be true, you are going to have to offer more, just to even have a look. Just like hot selling houses.

It is an estate sale. The price goes down on Day 2. And down some more on day 3.

Make an offer. Some sales have a box where you can submit your bid. You might get lucky

Chasing pinballs is evolving into a speed race. Sort of like how NASCAR pit crews have evolved into turning a 60 second pit stop into a 15 second pit flash. VAROOM !

And now it is gone.

Well, I was thinking a possibility with Meteor. But the back glass is real flaky. The play field needs some work. The boards are not hooked up. And I have been around enough now that I want to see what is under the play field. Add in that 18% buyer premium and shipping at the current $200.00 bid and that takes me out.

That link don't work.

I'll have two burgers and a shake, please. Oh, and add some tater tots.

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That Meteor is worth $200.00 for the back glass alone. Play field looks like it will clean up nice, too.

I wish I was closer

Nice score, Jethro. I wish I could find them 25 miles from home.

He also has a pool table sitting on the same kind of pedestal. There're some nice items in this sale. I doubt the owner was a chain saw type.

I guess you are going to have to buy it just to shut him up

EDIT: I did not read far enough before answering. And then I see Bluespin has the perfect solution

Six pins for $225.00? Or 6 pins for $225.00 each?

I go to a Friday night auction all of the time. I have been bit when they say "2 times the money". I thought I was bidding $10.00 and turns out it was $20.00.

Here is the way the auctioneer works it at his auction.

Let's talk in terms of pinball machines to see pit easy.

Choice: Auctioneer puts 5 pin up for sale on Choice. I want the Eight Ball Delux. And you want the the Evil Kanievel. But we don't know that we want a different pins in that lot. So, we start bidding up. And then you win the bid and I am sweating because I really want that EBD. But I get lucky and you take the EK.

And then the auctioneer asks if anybody else wants to choose form what is left. So, I can get the EBD for the same money as you just paid for your EK. Or I can take a chance and see if I get it cheaper on the 2nd time around.

But when the auctioneer comes back to sell the other 4 pins, he may do the Choice with what is left and I just might get that EBD for cheaper. Or, the auctioneer may decide to sell the 4 remaining pins as one lot. And now if I want that EBD I will have to buy 4 pins to get the one I wanted.
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One lot: Auctioneer has 3 pinball machines for sale as one lot. So you are bidding on all 3 and you will buy all 3.
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Times the money: The auctioneer cannot get anyone to bid on one pin in the above example. So he will say " all 3 pins for one money" to keep the auction moving.
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He will say, " I have these pinball machine for 3 times the money. So if you think you buying one for $200.00 you are mistaken. You are buying 3 pins for $200.00 each.
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Sometimes the auctioneer's call out for "times the money" goes by pretty fast and I think I am buying a power drill and a belt sander for $20.00. But I missed the part where the auctioneer said "times the money" and wind up paying $40.00.

I have never been to a Dutch auction and I am not familiar with them.

Every auctioneer can make their own rules. You really have to pay attention.

Sorry. I did not see your joke icon.

I was in the used car biz for 3 years the early 90s. I won't say "common" but it was frequent practice for the auctioneer to get a bid from what we called "wall money" meaning you were bidding against the wall. so, if you were bidding you were also looking around and trying to find who was bidding against you.

Everybody knew it happened. But it did not happen often. It was just accepted. Your protection is know your market and have a good idea that what you were bidding on was worth.

The Friday night auction I go to does not do the phantom bidding practice.

But people get emotional once they start bidding. And you can play some games. One night, there was an original oil painting for sale. It was a scene of some ducks lifting out of the water. Man cave stuff because your old lady is not going to havre in in her living room. I would not of having it for 5 or 10 dollars.

I saw an old boy down on the first row to ask one of the floor runners to bring that painting up to the auction block.

Two things here:

1) He is getting tired and wants to go home and does not want to wait all night for the painting to come u for sale.

and

2) He wants that painting.

Normally, on a good night, this painting might have brought $20.00 He started bidding and I was his opponent. He was down low on the bleachers and I was 4 rows higher. I could see him; He did not know I existed. The bidding started going up. When the painting got to $50.00 the auctioneers started getting excited with two hot bidders going at it. I finally let the guy have that painting for $70.00.
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When you are young and looking for action, you head for the nightclubs where all the pretty ladies are supposed to be.

When you get older and finally realize your picking-up-chicks-days are behind you, you go to auctions. There is no admission charge and if you keep your hands in your pockets they are cheap entertainment. After 2-3 years of accumulating auction junk I decide I wanted to make some changes so I took some things back to the auction to sell.

One item I had was a fire place mantle piece. It was cheap porcelain, white in color, and was gilded with a few imitation gold stripes. It was 4 musicians with their violins playing chamber music. It was made in China and there was a chunk of porcelain broken out of the top surface. But it looked good on the fireplace mantle. I paid $5.00 for it.

Since I was selling I did not go to auction that night. When I picked up my check and the invoice for items I sold, I saw that the mantle piece I paid $5.00 for sold for $100.00. I also took a 4 drawer file cabinet to sell that same night. It brought $1.00.

I have made some people pay more than they would have. Ebay's automatic bidding can get you all beat up.

I was trying to buy a circuit board recently. The bid was at $15.00. I made my bid and the other bidder's automatic Ebay bid kept over topping me. I would bid and get over topped. At around $40.00 someone else got in on the bidding as I got out. The circuit board wound up selling for $70.00.

Amazingly, a couple of weeks later another one of these boards came up for sale. This time I went to an auction snipe site and got the board for $15.00.

Several years ago, a pair of expensive automotive head lights came up for sale. The seller was selling them separately. If I could have bought them for the right price I would have bought them. There was one bidder bidding on both auctions. I made my 1st bid on the lefthand head light. I was overbid with Ebay's automatic bidder. I kept walking it up. Ebay kept overbidding me.

If I remember correctly the bidding was at $75.00 for this headlight assembly. New units were selling for $450.00 each. I think I bid up to $200.00 and figured out this other guy had his Ebay automatic bidder set for $250.00. So, I went the the right hand side auction and big it at $200.00 which immediately jacked the other bidder's automatic bid up to over $200.00.

I never use Ebay's automatic bidder because it is too easy to game. If you want to make a hidden bid, the auction snipe sites are the only way to go.

That is a good explanation. Shill bidders are the reserve price. If a live auction tries to put reserves on it will find that is a good way to kill an auction.

A Catacomb for $100.00? Where? My tired eyes do not see it.

So, you are telling me this Catacomb was at that Omaha estate sale with The Simpsons but was not advertised? Is that what you are saying?

I needs a back glass but it sure is nice looking.

Clean up that play field and lay down a Beehive protector and that will be a nice Big Game.

Are going to keep it or are going to do one of your fix it up things and sell it?

10, 300 were made. Not rare. Too cheap to put money into. Parts. I'd like the cab myself. Too far for me, too.

Here is a Lizard in action. I can't get past the sound set.

Here is video of a guy playing a Trident that he made some new code for. It looks like fun. As I am starting to learn a little more about these Stern MPU 100 pins I am getting a lot of respect for them. If this one was closer, I would be going for it.

I always wanted to be Teacher's Pet but she got busted. I still think, " What was the problem"?

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Debra Lafave: Schoolteacher. One of her students was being treated to a good time, but like all teenage boys, he had to blab to his friends. Word got around and back to the boy's mom who had a come-apart that her young son had been damaged.
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I suppose if she looked like this, every body would have blew a gasket and pinched their nose and said that bitch needs to be punished.

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But the hot teacher looked how she looked; The kind every hot blooded boy fantasizes about; A lot of boys and a lot of old farts would have been more than willing to have taken that "damaged" kid's place.

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For your reading pleasu....ah...edification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Lafave

All the good stuff always seems to be on the east coast.

No. No. The proper response is the Colson3 response: "I wish I was closer"

yes. If you act too picky the seller will lack confidence to hold anything for you. Too many people will not show up. I used to text my seller and say, " I'm backing out the driveway now.

One hour in and a text saying I am on the road and have made 125 miles. I am now in ...this town. I am stopping for lunch in River City. I'm 200 miles away. Anything to keep me on their mind so that they would have no doubt I was coming.

But even 4 years ago did not seem as competitive as it seems today.

I'm glad I got all of the ones I wanted. I don't think I could do the same thing today.

I understand where you are coming from. I want to see lots of good pics before I say "yes". In this hot market a long distance buyer is at a disadvantage; Ask too many questions and the seller is going to walk.

Look at the competition. Old people have two things: Money and lots of free time.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/what-machine-did-you-bring-home-today-post-your-pictures/page/385#post-6126611

This guy gets his first pinball machine. And he is not the only old fart getting his first pin.

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Oh, I agree .

But hindsite is such a wonderful thing.

Sure. But not at King Kong prices

Sure it does. The house was hers. And he got that small space in the basement for his 1 pin. It is a familiar story on Pinside

For all of the estate sale lookers

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Cold? Maybe. You gotta have a sense of humor about life, dying, and death because you will not outrun it.

My GF's last aunt, the one with the money, died a couple of years ago. After the funeral service and eating at the obligatory dinner at the church, as I was wondering around a room full of people I did not know, one of the aunt's grandson's was in the hall talking to someone else about the money that was going to get passed around. He did not care about his grandma; Only the money that she generated. And his grubby paws were out: "Grandma's gone. Where's my money ? "

Before Covid, when I was going to the Friday night auctions, you would see grandma's entire possessions up for sale. Stacks of dishes, books, you name it. One night I bought a box of family pictures for the picture frames only. I tossed that entire family into the trash can when I got home and kept the picture frames.

Estate sales happen usually for one of three reasons.

1) Someone is entering their twilight years and downsizing.

2) Selling out and hitting the road in our new RV.

or

3) Grandpa died and the long distance family has to fly in and get rid of everything fast. And cheap. And look at that pinball machine sitting in the corner.

Must have been computer nerd who "cowed" up the Dogies.

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I have nightmares about sending items off and having the sendee die while in possession of my parts. I am not shy about asking about how my parts will be inventoried, dealt with, and returned if you...I'll say it...if you die.

Volcano is good player. The one I played had factory mylar on. The play field looked brand new.

The best part about Delta Queen is the back glass.

I asked him if he had better pictures. And if the back glass was flaking. And also asked if the displays worked.

We'll see if he replies.

He replied and said he would post better pics. He didn't say anything about the displays not being lit up.

I can’t stand Facebook and rarely go there. But I imagine FB has a much farther reach than Pinside.

I always look at it as an offer is an offer. I can work with an offer. We may not be able to make a deal, but an offer, any offer, is much better than "would you take"?. And LOL as a reply to an offer. What nonsense. The idiot is too full of his self.

It's gone.

I disagree. If the price is posted, where is the harm? Don't like the price? Walk. Sales people try to create demand and sell for top dollar---if they are good sales people. It is no different than an auctioneer trying to get the best price for his client.

Around here, estate sales set the price for 100% price on day 1. Then a 25% discount on day 2. And then another discount on day 3. Don't like today's price? Wait until tomorrow---and hope what you are wanting is still there.

Some will take an offer. Some won't.

The ad is only 8 hours old. Sounds like a prank.

But yeah, everybody start offering lots of money for the unicorn.

How old is your teenager? What are his skill sets and interests? Is he mechanical minded or electronic minded?

What kind of tool selection will he have? He will need a nice soldering station. He will learn many skills working on a pin. Knowing how to properly solder carries a lot weight.

You say electronics. I would suggest something by Bally in the late 70s/ early 80s. They are relatively easy to work on. Most common parts are readily available. If a circuit board needs replaced, they are readily available and reasonably priced.

And--------there are a lot of Bally people here who can help him out when he runs into problems.

$500.00 will not buy very much in this market. But deals are out there.

Shoot, put him on the hunt for the pin he thinks he wants. You Tube has lots and lots of pinball videos to let you see what you might like. You guys might get to take a road trip together to pick up a pin and get a little father/son bonding.

I’m not sure where this belongs:

I get a text from an acquaintance who knows I like pinball. He asks if he can pass my phone number to a friend looking to value a pin. I said sure.

The next day I get a call from some woman who puts on estate sales. A friend of hers has a Royal Flush that needs to move. She gives me an address and I say I will go look at it tomorrow.

Tomorrow comes and I drive the 15 miles for a look see. The pin is in the basement. Nice house.Nice basement. These people are packing up to move.

The pin turns out to be a Williams Straight Flush. There is some minor wear on the play field and the back glass, while not perfect, is in good condition. And it works! So says she.

It has an old lamp cord for power. I plug in and reach under the cab to find out there is no toggle switch. So I push the credit button and the GI lights come on. Nothing else works. The rubbers are dry, yellowed, and broken.

I’m not interested in this pin called Straight Flush; I don’t do EMs. For a Royal Flush I would make an exception.

I ask her what kind of money she is wanting for it. It is obvious this woman has been looking at EBay. She wants...drum roll...$3500.00.

I told her that this is not a popular pin and needs lots of work. That it might be worth $200.00. Well, this is the pin her late husband always wanted and that she will just go ahead and keep it.

She thanked me for coming to look. I headed for the door.

That’s my over priced pin story.

Over 4000 were made. 33 pinsiders want one. It would not even make a good looking coffee table.

Parts. It has a lockdown bar. I'd like to have the cabinet.

I'd be all over that if it was closer.

Sort of like looking at Mr. Pinball with no pics.

This is not a project. It is not even a pinball machine. But I think it is cool and maybe something that would get someone's interest.

It is a rare arcade game called Dozer. One is for sale near Kansas City. I know nothing else about it.

lawrence.craigslist.org link

This link tells you a little about it. Halfway down there is a video that shows one of these in action.

https://arcadeartifacts.weebly.com/americoin-dozer.html

If I had a lot of money and some space I would not mind having this to spice up the collection.

It's a 40 year old machine.

Like those boys in Germany with their RC construction toys.

What I want is one of the Junkyard machines. Can you imagine the bar room betting you could work up with one of these?

These pins are less than a mile from me. But there is no address. It is an auction. I called the estate seller this afternoon inquiring if they can be seen before bidding, do they work, condition, etc.

I'm still waiting for a return call.

Thanks. I finally found the bid page. The pin is less than one half mile from me. I'm not interested but my operator friend is interested. But he is looking for cheap. I think he tops out at $300.00.

I just came from looking at both of these pins.

Jungle Queen has nice play field and flaky back glass.

Score motor will not stop to spinning. It will need an EM mechanic.

Vector was heavily routed. Much play field wear. Starts/ Lights work. Credits up. Will not launch a ball. The outhole kicker arm is broken. it is plastic. Marco sells them for $24.00 but it is out of stock. It is a rare part and according to my OP friend only 3 or 4 Ballys used this part. You will be looking for a hens' tooth. Plastics are not in good condition. Needs complete shop job.

Both pins have not been played for years.

He’s out. Vector is currently bid at $850.00. Someone is going to have a rude awakening at that price.

At least it has a better play field than the one that sold in Wichita for $975.00 yesterday.

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Some charm much better than others

A pawn shop in town has a Twin Bill back box for sale if anyone is interested send me a PM.

Too good to be true?

Trust me to keep you out of trouble

And now it is sale pending. Hell of a buy.

Chicago Coin is the predecessor to Stern Electronics. The cab, back box, lockdown bar and coin door will all work as a donor to build a Stern Quicksilver or Star Gazer. You will have the less powerful smaller transformer and no drop targets, but there is a lot there to start a build.

Did you tell them to just give you your money back?

Forget the game. I have never seen a Royal Crown Cola dispensing machine before. Coke, Pepsi, 7up. But never for RC Cola.

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But it looks like it is in your back yard. You could go pick it up in your little red Radio Flyer wagon

Some of this RC Cola stuff does pretty good on Ebay. There are some yellow carry-coolers bringing good bucks. But no dispensers like this one.

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He is asking $100.00 OBO for it.

And in the 4-place drop target assembly, and the lock down bar. Actually, add in the cabinet and back box. A steal at $200.00.

Obviously, this pin was priced too low. The seller probably got hit hard with the circling sharks and said " Not so fast".

Considering what HH has been selling for on Pinside, this one would have to get a whole lot cheaper to make any kind of monetary sense.

How many people do you think answered her ad wanting one of these $100.00 gems? 5? 10? 20? 40? How many responses would it take for anyone of you to realize you underpriced your product and needed to rethink your price?

You know your price is too high when you do not even receive one phone call.

Considering some of these deals that have been happening with some starting a bidding war going above the asking price, which price would you honor?

The ad says "for sale $100.00". And then here come the "I'll give you $300.00 for it. Or I'll give you $400.00 for it. And then here comes email number #3. I would like to buy your pin for $100.00. You have not accepted anything, yet. You have not even replied to your responders.

Which deal are you going to take? Are you going to let #3 at $100.00 have it? Or are you going to jump for Big Pockets at $400.00?

So, on one hand, you have not dishonored your asking price, but then on another deal, you are asking someone to sell to you by offering a price above a deal that was already struck; In effect you asking them to dishonor their pricing. How is that different than someone changing the price in their ad?

Going back to the example I wrote up. Say the 1st contact was from someone who just met your ask price and the third contact was for more than the seller was asking. So, I offer you your $100.00 asking price but right below that email is another one offering $300.00. You have not accepted an offer, yet. Which one are you going to take? The $100.00 offer was there first.

If it was pin I was wanting, I would figure out what I would be willing to pay. If the seller wants to turn it into an auction, then fine. I might not scarf up on a shark bait deal, but if I get what I want for a price I can live with then I will live with it.

A couple of years ago, some kid in Oklahoma City put up a unicorn for sale on Craigslist. It was Joker Poker. but as I studied the ad I saw it was the EM version with only 820 produced. The seller asking $300.00. I could have jumped on it but I did not.

I sent him a CL PM and told him his pin was worth way more than he was asking. I told him he could probably get $2000.00. He changed his price. A little later he told me he sold it for a $1000.00 offer. I could tell from his writing that he needed the money bad and was scared to walk away from an offer that he could have easily beat. So, some dude from Texas had to dig a little deeper because if me. Too bad. I helped out a kid who was hurting for money and did not know jack about pinball machines. I am not sorry.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but do you even know if this seller accepted an offer and then turned it down for a higher offer? Or did the seller open up his email only to see a full email box full of offers? Or are you assuming?

That's all I am saying. If the seller got hammered with beaucoup enquiries but did not accept an offer, then isn't the seller entitled to pull his ad and start over? Yeah, sure, the sharks will get a pissy attitude, especially if they had somewhere to go with it for a higher price.

Sort of like celebrities ( E.G. race car drivers ) charging $100.00 for their autograph. If they did not charge, the sharks would be snagging all of the autographs and then selling them for their own pocket money.
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I agree to a point. If you are hanging out on pinside then you have a good idea of value. If you do not know about pinside, where do you go to do your research? _________________________?

Some go to Ebay and then we bitch about them getting their fantasy prices from Ebay. And if they price too low we come in bragging about the great deal we got *(because the seller did not d this research).

So, tell me , other than pinside, where does one go to do the research on pinball prices? Other than pinside, I am at a loss. Facebook, I suppose? Pawn Stars? American Pickers? Where is the online pricing research on pinball machines?

Correction: The ad says it "was in working condition when last used. "

It's gone. I was going to try and work a deal where I could send Pawn Stars (Gold and Silver Pawn Shop. https://gspawn.com/contact-us/ ) some money and he could take it to Pawn Stars and they could pay him and then I could drive out and pick it up. He replied he already had a deposit.

Did you get to see Rick or Big Hoss? Shake their hand, maybe .

Is there anything special about it or does it look like all the other crapped out pawn shops I frequent.

System 11. That replaces the two boards on System 11s, such as Laser Cue, with one board. An Alltek MPU and solenoid driver board will set you back near the same at $350.00 for the pair.

I should not have sold mine. Great pin.

This reminds me of the pinsider who bought a base ball machine with no head. All of the wires had been cut. Then he located a head from somewhere. When it shipped in, it had the same cut wires. He just by chance got the original head from his base ball machine.