Finally joined the club said bye to GnR & lovin this prem so much more! Having fun modding & tweaking the lighting in this game, really like how sneaking a color changer in behind the left kickout shot did away with the whitewood that kept bugging me

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Nice! Im curious about that color changer idea!

Sure, maybe $5 in parts from Comet, easy and super effective! I used a flex 555 color changer (slow) in a matrix 555 light socket and used a matrix cool white bulb under the plastic behind that left target to power it. There’s just enough room under that plastic to lay the new light/socket in there and place the bulb in the tiny space to the upper left corner of that target then put the plastic back down and it fits snug aiming it at the whitewood, you can see the led here but can’t see the bulb from players angle, the whitewood soaks up the colors perfectly

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Can you play both games at the same time?

Just snagged a UV kit on eBay woohoo

I still have my UV kit, with no game

I am holding out hope they will run more Premiums in 2022. Probably won't, but I feel like they will decide to announce another run the day after I choose to sell the kit.

Congrats. I got GnR LE and St LE on same weeked earlier this year. GnR lasted 40 days or
So. ST still going strong. Such a good game

Most definitely

My advice is to just order a pro from the run in September. They are still available and, in my opinion, there isn’t a huge difference between the pro and premium for Stranger Things. If you do that, you aren’t holding out with false hope and can start enjoying the pin sooner rather than later…or maybe never.

Yup, you can’t not like the pro if you want a premium. They are the same game. If you love the pro then upgrade if they do happen to do another run.

I think that may be true for someone like you, but for the more average player I disagree. The projector is cosmetic. It’s cool but it’s just a projector. The TK lock, at least when I’ve played a premium, didn’t work all that well or at least consistently. The demogorgon shakes I guess but I think it’s hard to tell. Anyway, on a more basic level, I just don’t think the difference between the two is worth the extra dollars for a premium with stranger things. Compare that to AIQ where I think a premium is well worth the extra dollars.

Anything related to the TK lock can’t be a reason to upgrade since it could never work.

I mean...Mine works 99.95% of the time.

Now, mind you, it sucked ass getting it dialed in to that point

Projector is 75% of the difference, but tk lock is really cool too IMHO.

I've played a lot of both and the Prem is not a strict upgrade over the Pro. The TK lock is just not good. If I could get a premium for normal price I might buy it to see if I could make it work well enough but I may also turn it off. The pro plays better in my opinion, the projector is very cool and unique.

I never knew the demo moved until I read the matrix again recently, not impressive.

I upgraded to a premium from a pro and I guess I just don’t see all the hub bub about the projector and the Tk lock is ok after a lot of tweaking but to tell the truth I was fine with my pro with the uv kit and I think most will be also!

I think if the prem was readily available it would be a no brainer and there would be no debate. But it is what it is so pro is not a bad option right now.

If you could get an aftermarket projector you'd get most of the way there.

Interesting, I really enjoy the gameplay. I have owned almost all modern Sterns and my enjoyment of NST is higher than most the popular recent titles. That's what makes it interesting though, there's a game for everyone.

Edit: Further, if I didn't love it and had an LE you can guarantee I would have turned it into two Pros and cash already.

I'm joining the party late, but glad to have fully baked code now on my Pro. My family is very satisfied with this one, and at my price point there is no way I could justify spending the extra Gs for a projector and magnetic lock. Earlier run, everything working great so far out of the box. UV kit ordered.

This is my first spike game, and I was excited to see the service rails and color changing inserts. Pro has stepped up game since my previous which had pegs.

First Pro with RGB inserts was Star Trek, but they didn't keep that going because TWD Pro came later and has none. Service rails came back as standard on Pros starting with Iron Maiden. Very nice to have them back. Apologies, if you knew this stuff.

I've owned all these too, and prefer STh to them all. It's the mix of gameplay / theme / difficulty that keeps me coming back again and again. STh Pro has outlasted TWD, GOT, IMDM by a long shot for me.

People wanna complain that Stranger Things is AFM/Medieval mashup, but that's kinda why it's great. We love those games. Brian gave us a mashup of his hits with modern rules and a great theme. And I love the throwback EB animation.

I agree. It is also the perfect non pinball players game. Every time I have people over to my house, STh gets played more than all of my other games combined.

I love GOT more as well but even after I explain it to someone new at my house their eyes glaze over.

edit: GOT Pro is an all timer for me.

Next week I'll be completing a straight trade for my Stranger Things Pro for an Avenger IQ Pro. I'll finish the attract mode code for the Premium/LE models and make it available to anyone who wants it.

Nice

I had a similar decision recently and decided to upcycle my guardians into an avengers premium. It's on order to sit next to my St. Now if only it would get built by stern lol.

I would love to find a pin that could stand on its own in my game room…haven’t yet but I’m always looking. The “Swipe a ball” feature is the one and only upgrade/feature from the premium models that I’m a bit jealous of…as a pro owner.

Have you already sold Guardians? I'm interested if you haven't and are selling.

I want the projector. Doesn't change the gameplay, but changes the overall experience. As Chuckwurt said, I will just pick up a used one in a couple of years if they don't do another run.

If i end up never getting one, then so be it. Lots of pins in the sea. I don't like to compromise on my "fun" stuff, I either get what I want or just don't bother. At the very least, I will have a nice UV kit

I really love how this is looking. It's a great idea to put an LED there. I couldn't really do something like that, though. I'm not skilled enough with sutff like that.
But imagine how awesome this would look with LEDs which reacted to the current mode. It would fit in very nicely.

I got a PRO. I have a mod sticker for the ramp because it bothered me that this is only silver and this is the last piece of my pro that has no color (this is one point that hasn't been said in this recent discussion about the premium: It looks really boring turned off with all the white spaces)
Another thing that hasn't been said is that in the PRO it's way easier to shoot into the left rampd with your back hand. So, in this case the PRO has an advantage in gameplay even. I know a few people who prefer the PRO because of this.

Machine is already sold and gone. I do miss it but it was a opportunity I couldn't pass up.

This is why I don't have people over to my house.

So Ive played the game maybe 5-6 times so far, I love it.. but I haven't noticed jack crap on the ramps, does it actually project something because I haven't seen anything.

And that's antoher reason for me to prefer to Pro to be honest: You need a somewhat dark room to enjoy the Premium because the projector is not very bright. I'm living in a old building with no good blinds on the windows...
So, the Pro is visually way more enjoyable for people with circumstances like that.

And if you've got some experience with projectors you know that the borghtness will get worse quite quickly over time.

So after reading many of the posts above figured I'd chime in with my thoughts on the pro vs premium as I have owned both and actually went the other way and downgraded to a Pro. Now before you go what on earth was this guy thinking...... lol here me out....as much as I would like to say the projector adds so much to the atmosphere - it is just.....ok - it is a great 1st attempt at something different but really wasn't quite ready for prime time. The images can be washed out without upgrading the panels to a different screen mod, as was mentioned above, other than the drops and main screen, it is not used much on the ramps and sides and ok on the spinner and stand ups which have a tendency to move and or fall off. The projector also tends to easily get out of focus at times with a shaker even with the pad stopping the focus wheel from moving. The TK lock mech should have been redesigned, no one should spend the amount of time that folks have on "dialing" in this mech - yes it is fun when it works, but even after dialing in unless it is a strong unobstructed shot - it just isn't gonna make it and work 100% - I see folks posting hey mine works 95%, 80%, 60% - should the same expectation be for the flipper mechs to only work that often....lol no 100% is the expectation. Yes of course you can disable it, but then you have already compromised on the premium product due to a feature not working as intended. Ok the third difference is the moving Demogorgon and well.....yup it shakes.......again that's ok but not exactly earth shattering stuff here.... I really do think the pro with uv kit and Cleland mod may be the best bang for your buck and just plain fun. Obviously either game is great as they are the exact same in gameplay shots - you miss nothing on pro vs prem/le. Just my two cents - glad we have two versions to banter about on the internet as either choice is a winner winner chicken dinner!

If it's not 95%+, it's not dialed in. I don't even think about it when I'm playing anymore. Obviously it's ridiculous that it wasn't working well from the factory and required so much effort by the consumer to get working. I think that's part of the reason they're not running prems anymore. Not worth the headache on their side.

Just spent half a day tweaking on my TK with new cover, workin pretty smooooth. Rod was 2mm too close and a 1/4" too high per factory specs (NIB). Haven't missed a wall lock so far and get to have 3 on the wall! Now if I can just get my shot to the ramp dialed in! 3 of those hours was me manually resetting the cradle and just working on that shot relentlessly lol

But I have a different issue, my ball likes to stall right here just after it gets through the gate in the inner left lane sometimes. Have to tilt to make it continue out of there. Anyone figured out a way to fix this?

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Does the gate need to be bent out to eliminate that trap? Mine's never done that.

Mine does the same thing.

The TK Lock discussion reminds me of the GOTLE 2-level VUK discussion. I had to play around with my GOTLE’s VUK for a few weeks to make it work right, but it’s been solid for at least 3 years since then. I think the TK lock is pretty badass, but you’re gonna have to work for it when you get the game.

None of this matches the level of masochism it takes to own an Atari Tempest. That game loves to blow chassis transistors.