all the photo and video links are dead. Anyone have a link to LE photos that are still there?

It occurs to me That eventually pinball (and pachinko, and fruit machines) may fall out of the public eye enough that having a physical playfield and toys/interaction may be an add on to a video game that BLOWS THEY MINDS!!! Think a revved up Baby PAC.

You know, that hopefully doesn't suck..

It that would mean hobbit in the star wars theme then thanks god its Stern making it

I would much prefer Star Wars in the hobbit,the 4 pops ups could be bad guys and a tie fighter from the empire and the Smaug head darth Vader speaking to you,much better than a tie fighter on a spring and a ball excelerator that does not even lock balls,I want to love Star Wars and sold my gnr to make room and help pay but after playing the pro and hearing about the le I am a no go as of now and am sad about the outcome

I don't think you are missing anything as it's (mostly) nothing we haven't seen already.

Wow, just realized it's August 1 already! Time flies....

Rob

Jjp should buy lisences from disney and make a star wars pin, original 3 films only.

I bought a LE. But was really hoping for more, AT ATs as a bashtoy. Lazers. Stormtroopers. Blowing up stardestroyers, this theme/music is epic. Stern is only init for the money, its too emvious but, come on mr jersey doo this, give us a well designed nice SW pin, we all deserve it.
Ill pay 10k euro gladley, just make the pin epic

They tried to do that but lost the bid to Stern. So now we've got what we've got.

This makes me laugh. Translation = Stern i hate the game that you have produced but im still buying it. Im hoping someone else will make a better star wars game than you just did and ill pay even more for it.

Stern translation = We got another one hook line and sinker.

Stinks that pure $$$ rule on that.

LE stands for Limited Excitement.

Stern should start a new edition GSE.

You can translate all you want. I love star wars. I bought the LE up front. Would still doo it with the knowledge today. Stern knows this, people love the theme. Stern could cut even more of the LE and disturbuters would have bought all om them instantley right away.
50 pinside users cancles there order on a LE, who cares.

Im am not superexited on this pin no. I think me aerosmith pro is more fun to play.

Still i wish JJP makes a fully loaded SW pin.

Will make a propper review when i get my LE

You are essentially sending a message to Stern that they can still keep dumbing down their games, increase their price and that you will buy them. By all means spend away it's your money after all.

Read again. ON starwars because of the theme yes, not all there games no. Don't understand where you get that from.

? Oh. Thats why. Good luck with that.

Dialed In definitely has epic layout and software, but the gameplay for me lacks the energy that SR games provide in spades.

Based on this, I will make a slight revision to flashinstinct post as follows:

"You are essentially sending a message to Stern that they can still keep dumbing down their games, increase their price and that you will buy them *as long as it has a great theme*. By all means spend away it's your money after all."

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If theme is the most important part of a pinball machine for you, by all means, buy those machines. Personally, I think too many pinsiders underestimate the value of a good theme.

This IS my dream theme and music. Im sure i will be blown away when i start my first play, listening to the music.

Maby gameplay is fast and smooth, dont know yet. I usually love SR pins. BUT again tjis pin could be much more at JJPs.

The gameplay is extremely fast and extremely smooth. No worries there if that's what you're looking for.

Naw DI theme is classic Lawlor...good stuff.

Do you have anything positive to say lately? You've been on a rather negative slant lately...

Rob

Yeah I know time for a PA (pinball anonymous meeting) and a good beer with friends while playing pinball is in order. I haven't really played in 3 months because I've been dealing with my LOTR shipping woes. One thing for sure never hire R+L carriers or shipping brokers for squat. Everyone points the finger in the other direction.

On a positive note I did create a guide for people to create their crate so this kind of stupid thing doesn't happen to them
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-create-the-ultimate-palette

That's not what he is saying. Extreme fans of Star Wars will spend more on figurines that sit in their box on a shelf and are never touched than what this pinball machine costs. Now I'm not saying that he is that hardcore of a fan, but the point is never underestimate the power of the theme, it has huge pull to the more hardcore fans. I'll likely do the exact same thing when the new Elvira comes out.

I ordered one because I still have a mix of classic arcades and pinball and the themes of each are still important, especially if I can pair them together. Tron and Discs of Tron are sitting right next to Tron Legacy and I have a very lonely Star Wars arcade that is sitting next to Operation Wolf, which makes no since at all. Now, if Star Wars Premium is sitting next to SW arcade, that makes way more since. (I feel like this justification is going to fall apart with the wife once this is delivered)

I am going back to the "to my loving wife..." thread to make me feel better.

Agreed I have said it before until you make the picture clear by not buying a pin that continues to lose features but increases in price Why would they make changes. Not to mention the ghosting playfields and quality issues up the Wazoo.

We will se improvements when stern gets really compatition as it it now, stern has no real compation, they ship pins everyday. Last i heard stern did box upto 50pins a day, if thats true, i understand why they dont give a shit.

Again, what alternative doo i have? I love the theme, all other SW games are junk. Really junk.

Stern and every other pinball manufacturer do give a shit about their customers. Do not get caught up in this Stern bashing crap from a few members on Pinside. The majority of us love pinball and wish for the hobby to be around for many years to come.

Play the machine and see if you like it. Make your decisions from there. Easy!

Well when they ship a new LE to your home every time they release one I'm sure they do.

Please leave this forum immediately. Logic is not allowed here.

How well do you think the Star Wars pin with the Dialed In theme would sell?

Not well. I wonder what that says?

Yes! This is the time this needs to happen to show them. just remember what we got with lotr, tron, gb le. Sw is like a kick in the swim suit area :/ they need to finally be put in their place and out wallets are the only thing that can do that. We should start the wallets closed movement :-p

Not much as you're combining the weakest part of both titles.... a semi-confusing original theme with a nearly blank PF

Even if it was a Stern?

Damn this is the most depressing thread ever.
I'm going to go play some pinball.

We have always been looked after by all 2 of our distros. That is all we have in Australia for all the manufacturers!

The moment Stern said ghosting was normal my wallet closed. It will take a lot for them to re-gain my trust.

Standart ghosting and uevenplayfields as normal from stern is bullshit announsement. They messed so much up on GB that they upped quality on AS. Just keep on dooin the same!!!!!?!

Yeah my pin partner canceled his premium order...If people are actually fed up, they need to not buy it, or buy used so stern sees the drop in pre orders and sales. This will prove to them we won't stand for this. However until their sales drop, they will keep pushing that envelope.

I get bringing more processes like PF making in house, however, they don't play test their games on location or long (it seems) so they really have no idea how bad they wear etc it seems.....which is unfortunate.

So for those of you that have played both, how do you feel about SW vs Metallica? Both kind of are a mix of flowy/bashy games.

Apples and Oranges. Very different games. Good compliment to each other though.

I like Metallica a lot more, but they are VERY different in feel. Star Wars isn't really a bash game. Metallica has Sparky and the coffin which do focus on bashing often. Star Wars asks you to hit stand ups often enough, but they don't feel anything like hitting the bash toys on Metallica.

Star Wars is at breakneck speed from the moment you plunge and it really never lets up. Metallica has moments of speed, but it's far more deliberately paced.

As of right now Metallica is miles above what star wars is. Star Wars code still has a long way to go, and even then I doubt the code will beable to match what Metallica's is.

SW will never be MET with that playfield layout. Not even close. Regardless of code

Clearly you're not a Player.

Oops, wrong thread.

At least the music will be better.

I can't upvote this enough!!!

Rob

Yup, very different games. Good thing they are not all the same! That would stink.

Got to play this on location here in Seattle and...oh my god, I liked it? It wasn't set up to be a speed demon, which I think works to its advantage, if it were much quicker I probably would've just felt frustrated, but there was a nice amount of floaty back and forth, which I really enjoy. The rubbers near the outlanes get a lot of exercise, and that's actually a lot of fun. It's not a very difficult game, which I appreciate, none of the shots are impossible and some are pretty easy. Death Star shot has a nice flow to it, and once you've got it mentally mapped it's a very do-able shot - the difficult part is just getting the ball to the flipper to snatch the hurryup.

Biggest problem is what you might call "I'm-in-a-mode?-itis", the game does a terrible job of making the modes feel like they're, you know, happening, especially when you stack them and then you just have a mishmash of quotes flying nonsensically at you while all the lights switch colors. The placement (or even existence) of the pops is a gigantic, embarrassing mistake. I might even go so far as to call it a downright stupid decision, and it's space that absolutely, 100% could've been utilized better.

Most of the weak elements you don't really notice, like the bouncy tie fighter or the clumsy animations, though I did find the "punch the button" tie fighter mode to be extremely lame, mostly because the actual destruction of the fighters didn't seem to really match how quickly I punched the button. I did like how I managed to activate tie fighter multiball by activating the attack mode after the ball drained and slapping the button enough times before the ball got to the bottom of the trough.

The art is bland. It's less hideous in person because it's all lit up but it definitely has a lunchbox vibe. Props to the lightshow department, because they're doing most of the heavy lifting on this game.

I don't know if I would enjoy this pin in a home environment, but I had a good time pumping quarters into it. It's ironic that "fast and flowy" is the big thing right now, because these pins are basically becoming flashy arcade games. Star Wars scoots around that by a lot of nice lateral motion, which brings an old-fashioned anticipatory physical vibe, and avoids the feeling that I'm playing a video game with flippers. The lack of toys is still a bummer, and I'll be curious to know if more music is coming. If not, they've got themselves stuck with an incredibly limited soundtrack.

So yeah, I had a fairly good time playing this. Shame about those pop bumpers!