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F You Stern and your price increases

By WeirPinball

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    #1001 33 days ago
    Quoted from underlord:

    Eventually this will decrease and folks'll be stuck with pins they can't sell. That alone is worth it. I'd love to see a blow out sale with some idiot stuck with 6 GZLE's. LOL. Harder to sit on than 6 PS5's.

    I feel like this is already happening. Nobody is paying the scalper, even for as hot a game as GZ is. The price is dropping and people are a little ticked at scalpers.
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    #1002 33 days ago
    Quoted from spandol:

    I feel like this is already happening. Nobody is paying the scalper, even for as hot a game as GZ is. The price is dropping and people are a little ticked at scalpers.
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    Yeah....

    We'll see once the unboxing videos start. Sure FOMO won't creep back in

    #1003 33 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    Yeah....
    We'll see once the unboxing videos start. Sure FOMO won't creep back in

    Anything is possible, but we had a stream that made people's jaws hit the floor, and that didn't make people pay 14k. I certainly wouldn't.

    #1004 33 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I’ll admit we are kind of talking about different things.
    God forbid stern makes a game with gold rails any time over the next 10 years. It’ll be “Beatles parts lying around.”

    Joe K did say they still have 300 left to build

    #1005 33 days ago
    Quoted from spandol:

    I feel like this is already happening. Nobody is paying the scalper, even for as hot a game as GZ is. The price is dropping and people are a little ticked at scalpers.

    Truth be told, Pinside is the last place you'd want to sell newer games. I sold lots of games and 99% of the time I'd get severely lowballed here so I'd end the listing here and just sell them elsewhere for significantly more. Heck I would get more from distributers themselves wanting to buy back games than I'd ever get offered here. So the fact that listings are being terminated as unsold here doesn't at all mean they aren't getting that price or more elsewhere.

    #1006 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    1000th FU post! FU Pinside! - list your FUs below!

    As the news has now sunk in a bit, my sense is that some people may have changed their FU to F Me or both.

    Maybe add a poll?

    #1007 32 days ago

    All I know is the guy who said stern was pushing him out of the hobby with their cruel price increases is still turboposting here, so I’d guess at least one guy has joined the F ME club.

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    #1008 32 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    All I know is the guy who said stern was pushing him out of the hobby with their cruel price increases is still turboposting here, so I’d guess at least one guy has joined the F ME club.

    Based on post numbers there is only 1 turboposter here...

    #1009 32 days ago

    Looks like I gained 10 pounds before Thanksgiving. FU Scales

    #1010 32 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    so I’d guess at least one guy has joined the F ME club.

    Ok that was good!

    #1011 32 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    The bubble will burst.
    And we are all just sitting around licking our chops waiting for that magic moment!

    That’s an epiphany! Never heard that. Very inciting.

    Any…day…now…

    #1012 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Based on post numbers there is only 1 turboposter here...

    Only one guy but I’m doing my best! GZUS!

    Slave driver.

    #1013 32 days ago

    Not sure which is more tedious: the price bubble threads, or those that can’t stop responding to them.

    #1014 32 days ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    Unfortunately, this hobby has now attracted the low-life profiteers, who sweep up as many LEs as they can, then sell them to make an easy few thousands bucks.
    And the really, really sad thing is....people will gladly pay these inflated prices, so the profiteers are here to stay; until the big pinball crash...which is coming.
    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.
    The only way to eliminate these people from this hobby is to sting them hard...don't buy what they're selling, leave them with expensive stock. They'll soon scutter back to the trash pile where they came.

    I think there are steps some companies could take to lessen some of the buy ups. Like for pinball machines specifically, no transfers, must be shipped to the same name and address that ordered, things of that nature. Isn't going to stop all of it, but would slow some of it down. Of course, they have little incentive to do this because they WANT to sell out.

    #1015 32 days ago
    Quoted from spandol:

    I feel like this is already happening. Nobody is paying the scalper, even for as hot a game as GZ is. The price is dropping and people are a little ticked at scalpers.
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    Man. Look at all those scumbag flippers.

    #1016 32 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    The “parts lying around” theory is one of my favorite in all of pinball.
    These manufacturers just have a pile of “parts lying around” and this affects all of their future marketing and production decisions!

    Obviously you've never heard of the McRib warehouses.

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    #1017 31 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Based on post numbers there is only 1 turboposter here...

    Zing...

    #1018 31 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    9 Godzilla LEs in the classifieds if anyone is looking - starting at 13K - keep fueling the fire!
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    at this rate 10K by Christmas sounds great!

    So essentially Stern is leaving $2.5 million on the table by selling the LEs at $10,500 as opposed to $13,000 they appear to be being sold at by the flippers.

    How long before Stern says "Hey, let's just increase our price to $13,000 and pocket the $2.5 million". I hate price increases as much as the next person, but they'd be stupid not to keep raising prices.

    #1019 31 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Based on post numbers there is only 1 turboposter here...

    You spelled Troll wrong.

    #1020 31 days ago
    Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

    So essentially Stern is leaving $2.5 million on the table by selling the LEs at $10,500 as opposed to $13,000 they appear to be being sold at by the flippers.
    How long before Stern says "Hey, let's just increase our price to $13,000 and pocket the $2.5 million". I hate price increases as much as the next person, but they'd be stupid not to keep raising prices.

    There is an LE for $12k

    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/121627

    #1021 31 days ago

    When you now hear the prices of new Stern pinball machines (apply to JJP as well).

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    #1022 31 days ago

    If Stern charged 13K for the LE's, then the flippers would just ask 15K.

    #1023 31 days ago
    Quoted from LOTR_breath:

    If Stern charged 13K for the LE's, then the flippers would just ask 15K.

    But no one is buying the flipped ones in the market for 13k. Is that just because they are being flipped? To me 13k is just an insane price to pay, especially when a premium with everything in it is 4k cheaper.

    #1024 31 days ago
    Quoted from spandol:

    But no one is buying the flipped ones in the market for 13k. Is that just because they are being flipped? To me 13k is just an insane price to pay, especially when a premium with everything in it is 4k cheaper.

    Yes the higher number 1000 instead of 700 and the higher entry price put the flippers in a worse position. It's not as rare as Elvira LE for example so a lot of the people who really wanted one got one. So less people to flip to also the MSRP is already inflated so less room to inflate it even more.

    #1025 31 days ago

    F you Stern and your darn videos! I just watched the video for the Godzilla Pro (I'm a Pro kind of guy), and I want one. The Pro didn't have all that crap to get in the way. I grew up on Creature Double Feature, and this game is right in my wheel house. Of course I'm sure my knees will buckle once they start talking about taxes and shipping, but I'm looking into getting one anyway.

    #1026 31 days ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    F you Stern and your darn videos! I just watched the video for the Godzilla Pro (I'm a Pro kind of guy), and I want one. The Pro didn't have all that crap to get in the way. I grew up on Creature Double Feature, and this game is right in my wheel house. Of course I'm sure my knees will buckle once they start talking about taxes and shipping, but I'm looking into getting one anyway.

    What video did you watch? A stream?

    Edit: Never mind, I see a Stern video was released.

    #1027 30 days ago
    Quoted from spandol:

    But no one is buying the flipped ones in the market for 13k. Is that just because they are being flipped? To me 13k is just an insane price to pay, especially when a premium with everything in it is 4k cheaper.

    not me, but some people need to feel special

    #1028 29 days ago

    Time to cash out !!! Run for your lives !!!

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    #1029 29 days ago

    JJP just raised GNR LE prices to $11k! Insane but I'm sure they believe their products are worth more then a Stern LE at $10,500. These recent prices increases are insane but hey if you bought at the lower price points you just made thousands! lol.

    #1030 29 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    JJP just raised GNR LE prices to $11k! Insane but I'm sure they believe their products are worth more then a Stern LE at $10,500. These recent prices increases are insane but hey if you bought at the lower price points you just made thousands! lol.

    11k for a LE?

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    #1031 29 days ago

    Yup, reported by Kaneda.

    #1032 29 days ago

    I’d much rather have a Stern Godzilla LE for $11k than a GnR for $11k.
    Sure that’s personal preference, but I’m not sure Toy Story LEs are going to be flying at $11k, especially with a 1 year wait to get them.

    #1033 29 days ago
    Quoted from NashtyFunk:

    I’d much rather have a Stern Godzilla LE for $11k than a GnR for $11k.
    Sure that’s personal preference, but I’m not sure Toy Story LEs are going to be flying at $11k, especially with a 1 year wait to get them.

    These new prices are nuts. I wouldn't want either at the price, both are insane at $10,500 and $11k lol. I feel like I got a deal a couple months back with a NIB July build GNR LE for $9,500 which at the time seemed like an insane amount of money to spend on a pin.

    #1034 29 days ago

    Can people ever state their opinion without interjecting a pin they have
    “OMG 10500 is insane who would ever pay that? Glad I got one for 9500”

    LMAO

    #1035 29 days ago

    I think mushrooms are gross. I own Big Game.

    Sorry. I tried.

    #1036 29 days ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    Can people ever state their opinion without interjecting a pin they have
    “OMG 10500 is insane who would ever pay that? Glad I got one for 9500”
    LMAO

    Im DONE with NIB purchases..

    Right after I get my Halloween...

    #1037 29 days ago

    I mean…JJp announced a new run of $11k wonka LEs last week so kinda makes sense that’s their standard LE price now, right?

    #1038 29 days ago

    Wonder what price CCC will end up at?

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    #1039 29 days ago
    Quoted from pinnyheadhead:

    Wonder what price CCC will end up at?

    What on earth is going on with CGC? They could be selling MM, AFM, MB by the bucketloads ….they’re like “eh, when we get around to it”.

    #1040 29 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    What on earth is going on with CGC? They could be selling MM, AFM, MB by the bucketloads ….they’re like “eh, when we get around to it”.

    The 6k AFM would be selling like Hot cakes now

    #1041 29 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    What on earth is going on with CGC?

    Working their butts off getting CCR ready. Getting prototypes built, and approved, and any changes made to get approval, and ready for shows. Getting games ready to ship. They've been busy.

    Yes it's taken longer than anyone ever hoped. But it will be worth it.

    LTG : )

    #1042 29 days ago

    How much did JJP charge for GnR CE and Stern for SLE pins? I have to think that’ll be $15k for Toy Story CE or any Stern SLE release.

    #1043 29 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    JJP just raised GNR LE prices to $11k! Insane but I'm sure they believe their products are worth more then a Stern LE at $10,500. These recent prices increases are insane but hey if you bought at the lower price points you just made thousands! lol.

    Maybe they needed the extra money to fix PF's and support customers with bad ones

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    #1044 29 days ago
    Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

    Maybe they needed the extra money to fix PF's and support customers with bad ones

    Lol yeah. Thankfully pretty much all GNR playfield issues stopped with the late June and going forward builds, something is working. It's still BS that the issue happened in the first place after Wonka and Pirates had the issue. Free playfields should have been sent out to GNR customers with messed up playfields.

    #1045 29 days ago

    well glad some people got good Playfields and the rest of us Destroyed ours from just playing it from the factory , How dare us . how dare we destroy the Sheety less than perfect P.O.S pooling chipping playfield with art flaking off in under 200 plays ..
    Warranty Doesn't Cover Defects it seems .. Should Be odds like a Lottery on the sale of a pinball. Tell you this game has a 60 percent chance to have a P.O.S Pooling chipping playfield from regular play .
    This box has a 10 percent Chance after june with same amount of user play .

    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    Lol yeah. Thankfully pretty much all GNR playfield issues stopped with the late June and going forward builds, something is working. It's still BS that the issue happened in the first place after Wonka and Pirates had the issue. Free playfields should have been sent out to GNR customers with messed up playfields.

    #1046 29 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    Lol yeah. Thankfully pretty much all GNR playfield issues stopped with the late June and going forward builds, something is working. It's still BS that the issue happened in the first place after Wonka and Pirates had the issue. Free playfields should have been sent out to GNR customers with messed up playfields.

    I thinks what's working is that they covered up the issues with washers
    time will tell if it spreads past the washers

    #1047 29 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    What on earth is going on with CGC? They could be selling MM, AFM, MB by the bucketloads ….they’re like “eh, when we get around to it”.

    You're absolutely right, but I also am sure they are balling out of control with their main business, plus getting ready to ramp up for CC, plus part and labor shortages, I kinda can get why they aren't just cranking out games. I wish they were though, they'd definitely be making a bunch of extra money

    #1048 29 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    pretty much all GNR playfield issues stopped with the late June and going forward builds

    #1049 29 days ago

    ²

    Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

    I thinks what's working is that they covered up the issues with washers
    time will tell if it spreads past the washers

    If they are in full washer mode, isn´t it safe to assume the problems are not solved?

    #1050 29 days ago
    Quoted from Dr-pin:

    ²

    If they are in full washer mode, isn´t it safe to assume the problems are not solved?

    Just don't peak under the washers and all will be fine

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