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F You Stern and your price increases

By WeirPinball

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    #951 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    I asked if it would be the new godzilla pro price and I was told it would be the new price - didn't even ask the specifics. Remember I was like mid twenties in line for dp so that probably wouldn't have been until next year

    All depends if your game makes it out of the factory by Dec 31st. Jan 1 ALL games will be the new pricing. Dealers can cancel the order if they wish on prior orders, if their customers object to full boat price increases on the prior titles that were ordered previously.

    If you are lucky, and your earlier title game makes it out of the factory before then, you will just be upcharged for the inter connect which is being installed on all units going forward.

    So either a regular sized kick in the shorts, or a much bigger one depending on when the game makes it out of the factory.

    Yeah on Deadpool probably lots of backorders so pretty much probably figure it will be the bigger kick in the pants as your dealer told you...

    #952 32 days ago

    I could have lived with a few hundred buck but the 800 no thank you

    #953 32 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

    F U gas station, it cost me $50 to fill up (used to be $40). I’m done with gas stations.

    Stupid post. Gas is a practical necessity.

    Quoted from luch:

    what's the alternative ?

    Exactly. For me it would either be spending 4 hours or more a day on light rail and buses (or just buses more likely), or working some extra Uber Eats on the side to pay for gas...which even with the extra gas use would actually take far less time out of my life than riding the bus. Hilarious, right?

    Totally the same as a 9000 buck toy.

    This place is becoming more and more like Facebook groups every day. It's embarrassing.

    #954 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    I asked if it would be the new godzilla pro price and I was told it would be the new price - didn't even ask the specifics. Remember I was like mid twenties in line for dp so that probably wouldn't have been until next year

    Yeah. You are right. The end of year is getting close for builds, so would be new pricing.

    I guess if folks make a stand now and say no to any future price increases by not buying it would be hard to buy any game in the future. One can wait to see how the market shakes out with HUO games, or BW’s for thar matter, but chances are those will be higher also. So Higher for new / higher for old games. Enjoying what you have is good, but getting a new game or older/new game is pretty awesome and fun.

    Good luck

    #955 32 days ago

    Jjp re-running Wonkas... at 11k

    Pinballstar Email

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    #956 32 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    Jjp re-running Wonkas... at 11k
    Pinballstar Email
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    Lol. Take that Stern! We can go even higher! My CE Wonka buy is feeling better each day.

    #957 32 days ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Stupid post. Gas is a practical necessity.

    Exactly. For me it would either be spending 4 hours or more a day on light rail and buses (or just buses more likely), or working some extra Uber Eats on the side to pay for gas...which even with the extra gas use would actually take far less time out of my life than riding the bus. Hilarious, right?
    Totally the same as a 9000 buck toy.
    This place is becoming more and more like Facebook groups every day. It's embarrassing.

    I think that was sarcasm...but you never know.

    #958 32 days ago

    9 Godzilla LEs in the classifieds if anyone is looking - starting at 13K - keep fueling the fire!

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    at this rate 10K by Christmas sounds great!

    #959 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    9 Godzilla LEs in the classifieds if anyone is looking - starting at 13K - keep fueling the fire!
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    at this rate 10K by Christmas sounds great!

    I was thinking the same...it won't be long till you see MSRP

    #960 32 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    Jjp re-running Wonkas... at 11k
    Pinballstar Email
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    Doesn't LE imply that there's only so many....?

    Or is that "only so many....until the next run!!!" ...?

    #961 32 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    Doesn't LE imply that there's only so many....?
    Or is that "only so many....until the next run!!!" ...?

    I thought that was JJPs motto - limited, but this one is a different color so it's a new limited run

    #962 32 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    Doesn't LE imply that there's only so many....?
    Or is that "only so many....until the next run!!!" ...?

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    I don’t think they’ve ever made all of the limited editions of any game. They are usually limited to 5k or something crazy like that.

    #963 32 days ago
    Quoted from pinnyheadhead:

    Yeah. You are right. The end of year is getting close for builds, so would be new pricing.
    I guess if folks make a stand now and say no to any future price increases by not buying it would be hard to buy any game in the future. One can wait to see how the market shakes out with HUO games, or BW’s for thar matter, but chances are those will be higher also. So Higher for new / higher for old games. Enjoying what you have is good, but getting a new game or older/new game is pretty awesome and fun.
    Good luck

    That location play is looking amazing right now. Just left Game Terminal here in Nashville. Place is so freaking amazing man. Next time you are down this way yell at me.

    #964 32 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    9 Godzilla LEs in the classifieds if anyone is looking - starting at 13K - keep fueling the fire!
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    at this rate 10K by Christmas sounds great!

    10k right now sounds great. At the rate everything is going $15k is going to be average price for a upper tier game.

    #965 32 days ago
    Quoted from woody76:That location play is looking amazing right now. Just left Game Terminal here in Nashville. Place is so freaking amazing man. Next time you are down this way yell at me.

    Location play is great. That place looks amazing. If you have a place like that close by why have any at home anyway??

    Hope all is well.

    #966 32 days ago
    Quoted from pinnyheadhead:

    Location play is great. That place looks amazing. If you have a place like that close by why have any at home anyway??
    Hope all is well.

    That's the way I'm leaning - sold most of my 44 pin collection and looking forward to supporting local places like the pinball garage

    #967 32 days ago

    Thats funny, I asked my self the same question. At $11,000 I dont have an answer

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    #968 32 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    It's a tiny niche hobby with a TON of room for growth, and new people continue to enter it every day.

    Yeah definitely has tons of room for growth. I was playing a new videogame the other day and this came up so I took a pic, made me smile as talk of pinball seems to be popping up where you least expect it.

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    #969 32 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    I don’t think they’ve ever made all of the limited editions of any game. They are usually limited to 5k or something crazy like that.

    Lol.

    *bunny ears/air quote*

    "Limited"

    #970 32 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    Lol.
    *bunny ears/air quote*
    "Limited"

    Alien just bumped their LV limited from 500 to 1000 to cash in. Everyone aboard the price increase express!

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    #971 32 days ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

    Lol. Take that Stern! We can go even higher! My CE Wonka buy is feeling better each day.

    I think you meant Raza

    #972 32 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Or the 60s,70s, and 80s games. Tons of good ones.

    YEP. We both have collections with games of all eras haha. So many amazing, over-looked games

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    #973 32 days ago
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    #974 32 days ago

    F you Stern! Anyway my new game should be here before Xmas

    #975 32 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    Jjp re-running Wonkas... at 11k
    Pinballstar Email
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    These things weren't selling at $9500 a year ago. Is the demand really there? Or are they just trying to use parts they have lying around and hope people are used to higher prices?

    I was looking to buy a new game but the pricing has gone too far. I need a new hobby.

    #976 31 days ago

    Unfortunately, this hobby has now attracted the low-life profiteers, who sweep up as many LEs as they can, then sell them to make an easy few thousands bucks.

    And the really, really sad thing is....people will gladly pay these inflated prices, so the profiteers are here to stay; until the big pinball crash...which is coming.

    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.

    The only way to eliminate these people from this hobby is to sting them hard...don't buy what they're selling, leave them with expensive stock. They'll soon scutter back to the trash pile where they came.

    #978 31 days ago

    Paid in full for a Deadpool pro in June of this year.
    Now if I want the game I have to cough up more?
    This is my first and probably my last nib.

    #979 31 days ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.

    I've given up on that. I managed to get TWO Series X's, and even tried to dump the one I didn't need *at cost*, but nobody took me up on it. Think I had even posted it here after everyone local passed. PS5's? Sony has repeatedly showed that if you wait 2 years, there will be a better model available. More storage, smaller size, better cooling. Current rumors seem to be an 8k capable version, but I'm not planning on buying an 8k tv in the next 5 years, so I don't care about that....but there's definitely other benefits to waiting on Playstation refreshes, specifically.

    #980 31 days ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    Unfortunately, this hobby has now attracted the low-life profiteers, who sweep up as many LEs as they can, then sell them to make an easy few thousands bucks.
    And the really, really sad thing is....people will gladly pay these inflated prices, so the profiteers are here to stay; until the big pinball crash...which is coming.
    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.
    The only way to eliminate these people from this hobby is to sting them hard...don't buy what they're selling, leave them with expensive stock. They'll soon scutter back to the trash pile where they came.

    I’ve seen Stern dealers trying to sell LEs on EBay. One has Mando for $17k.

    ebay.com link: itm

    #981 31 days ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    Unfortunately, this hobby has now attracted the low-life profiteers, who sweep up as many LEs as they can, then sell them to make an easy few thousands bucks.
    And the really, really sad thing is....people will gladly pay these inflated prices, so the profiteers are here to stay; until the big pinball crash...which is coming.
    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.
    The only way to eliminate these people from this hobby is to sting them hard...don't buy what they're selling, leave them with expensive stock. They'll soon scutter back to the trash pile where they came.

    I feel bad now because I bought a ps5 last year and I hardly play it. I didn't realize they are still hard to get.

    #982 31 days ago
    Quoted from seenev:

    These things weren't selling at $9500 a year ago. Is the demand really there? Or are they just trying to use parts they have lying around and hope people are used to higher prices?
    I was looking to buy a new game but the pricing has gone too far. I need a new hobby.

    The “parts lying around” theory is one of my favorite in all of pinball.

    These manufacturers just have a pile of “parts lying around” and this affects all of their future marketing and production decisions!

    That’s how companies work in 2021! It makes so much sense!

    A new LE game with trim in a color they used once before 5 years ago?

    Parts lying around!!

    Pinball company rerunning a game that isn’t the game everybody here is clamoring for?

    Gotta be parts lying around!! They have big meetings every Monday morning where they sift through the big parts pile and try to plan all their decisions for the next 2 years based upon what they find in there.

    I’m hoping stern stumbles upon an old drum of troll dolls, forcing them to remake RCT.

    #983 31 days ago

    Stop buying from scalpers!

    Do you have no shame? Is the pinball that serious? Go play on location! Thanks

    #984 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    The “parts lying around” theory is one of my favorite in all of pinball.

    It happens. After the new GOT update, they ran another 100 pros with the parts left over. 100% true confirmed with Dwight when I visited.

    #985 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    The “parts lying around” theory is one of my favorite in all of pinball.
    These manufacturers just have a pile of “parts lying around” and this affects all of their future marketing and production decisions!
    That’s how companies work in 2021! It makes so much sense!
    A new LE game with trim in a color they used once before 5 years ago?
    Parts lying around!!
    Pinball company rerunning a game that isn’t the game everybody here is clamoring for?
    Gotta be parts lying around!! They have big meetings every Monday morning where they sift through the big parts pile and try to plan all their decisions for the next 2 years based upon what they find in there.
    I’m hoping stern stumbles upon an old drum of troll dolls, forcing them to remake RCT.

    I'm sure hot wheels uses the houdini cabinet because it looks so good...

    #986 31 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    It happens. After the new GOT update, they ran another 100 pros with the parts left over. 100% true confirmed with Dwight when I visited.

    That doesn’t even make any sense.

    They had parts lying around to build 100 extra GOTs, but weren’t planning on building them?

    Then why have parts lying around for 100 GOTs? It costs money to make those parts. It costs money to store those parts. So why would they exist if not to end up as completed GOT games?

    I’m gonna have to corner Dwight on this and obnoxiously berate him till he explains himself! That’s what pinball shows are for I believe.

    #987 31 days ago
    Quoted from SeafaringSpiders:

    I'm sure hot wheels uses the houdini cabinet because it looks so good...

    This also makes no sense.

    They used the AP cabinet because that’s what AP cabinets look like. I mean if they hated that design (which also makes little sense as the design is about 3 years old; why’d they change their mind?) surely they’d have used all the ones “lying around” for Oktoberfest right?

    Look I’m just throwing my cards on the table here;

    I doubt the veracity of the “parts lying around” theory, and the provided “examples” have yet to sway my thinking!

    #988 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    This also makes no sense.
    They used the AP cabinet because that’s what AP cabinets look like. I mean if they hated that design (which also makes little sense as the design is about 3 years old; why’d they change their mind?) surely they’d have used all the ones “lying around” for Oktoberfest right?
    Look I’m just throwing my cards on the table here;
    I doubt the veracity of the “parts lying around” theory, and the provided “examples” have yet to sway my thinking!

    Hell I got enough parts laying around to make a machine or two...

    #989 31 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Hell I got enough parts laying around to make a machine or two...

    Are the parts laying or lying?

    This alone probable deserves its own thread!

    #990 31 days ago
    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Alien just bumped their LV limited from 500 to 1000 to cash in. Everyone aboard the price increase express![quoted image]

    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    Unfortunately, this hobby has now attracted the low-life profiteers, who sweep up as many LEs as they can, then sell them to make an easy few thousands bucks.
    And the really, really sad thing is....people will gladly pay these inflated prices, so the profiteers are here to stay; until the big pinball crash...which is coming.
    I still can't get a PS5 because of these low-life's....but I'm not stupid enough to pay over RRP to get one. I can wait 2 or 3 years no problem.
    The only way to eliminate these people from this hobby is to sting them hard...don't buy what they're selling, leave them with expensive stock. They'll soon scutter back to the trash pile where they came.

    Eventually this will decrease and folks'll be stuck with pins they can't sell. That alone is worth it. I'd love to see a blow out sale with some idiot stuck with 6 GZLE's. LOL. Harder to sit on than 6 PS5's.

    #991 31 days ago
    Quoted from underlord:

    Eventually this will decrease and folks'll be stuck with pins they can't sell. That alone is worth it. I'd love to see a blow out sale with some idiot stuck with 6 GZLE's. LOL. Harder to sit on than 6 PS5's.

    The bubble will burst.

    And we are all just sitting around licking our chops waiting for that magic moment!

    #992 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    They had parts lying around to build 100 extra GOTs, but weren’t planning on building them?

    Bingo. The parts weren’t worthless. They need to keep stock on all games. Hell they still had sopranos parts when I needed some like 3 years ago.

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    #993 31 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Bingo. The parts weren’t worthless. They need to keep stock on all games. Hell they still had sopranos parts when I needed some like 3 years ago.

    Hopefully Dwight does a better job of explaining this all to me than you did.

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    #994 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Hopefully Dwight does a better job of explaining this all to me than you did.

    English a problem? They have to keep stock of parts for games right? They have all that plus they had parts left over from runs that for cut short due to demand dropping off. Not difficult to understand.

    They saw they had about 100 games worth of parts left, called HBO and asked what it would cost to allow stern to make them (license expired). HBO quoted a price, and stern paid.

    #995 31 days ago

    Why are we arguing about this?

    I just want to be friends with Dwight.

    #996 31 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    It happens. After the new GOT update, they ran another 100 pros with the parts left over. 100% true confirmed with Dwight when I visited.

    I built this out of leftover bike parts. I’m going to call it the Bike Jogging Edition

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    #997 31 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Why are we arguing about this?
    I just want to be friends with Dwight.

    Just trying to explain a situation I had from my first hand experience. No argument to be had. You can be mad at me, but it happened. Haha

    Not sure how much experience you have in the manufacturing industry, but it’s common to have too much inventory of a particular item. Could happen for many factors. Most of the time its a cancelled order or overestimated demand.

    #998 31 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Just trying to explain a situation I had from my first hand experience. No argument to be had. You can be mad at me, but it happened. Haha

    I’ll admit we are kind of talking about different things.

    God forbid stern makes a game with gold rails any time over the next 10 years. It’ll be “Beatles parts lying around.”

    #999 31 days ago

    Have to be some WWE leftover parts...

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