Did photos of the BSE ever end up being shown anywhere? I have only seen the error photos that were posted by mistake and immediately taken down.

I'm in for a Halloween BSE! (I can't fit toppers in my basement). I got in on AMH and RZ early, but haven't bought a Spooky game since. I have been waiting for them to finally do a classic horror movie theme. Can't wait for this one... but that's all I can do now.

Here's the mockups Spooky posted of the BSE and SE models.

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Man, did everyone order a CE? It doesn't seem like too many people ordered a BSE or SE. I keep thinking about upgrading from BSE to CE, but then I'd have to remove the topper before I could even set it up because of my low ceilings and the game doesn't even say 'Halloween' anywhere but the topper on the CE.

The F13 franchise is better than the Halloween or Night on Elm Street franchises, imo. Nearly all of the F13 movies are good to great, with 3, 4 and 6 being my favorites. Parts 5 and 9 are probably the weakest, with 9 being the only one I just don't like. With Halloween, really only the first 3 movies in the franchise are good, and they go steadily down hill from there (I haven't seen the 2018 reboot yet). With Nightmare on Elm Street, really only 1 and 3 are good, though I suppose some of the other ones have their moments too. Really, it's amazing that F13 managed to stay entertaining across so many movies.

Spot on, LTG. I think the fatal mistake was in making part II a continuation of the same story and THEN shifting gears for part III. If they intended to make every Halloween movie a different story, they should have done a different story for II and it probably would have worked.

I'm just hoping to have my game by Halloween... 2022!

Not a bad idea! Unfotunately for me, I am sure everyone I play pin with will already have played this game to death by the time I get mine. I can only hope that they aren't already bored with it by then. I'm busting it out as soon as possible.

Spooky is selling wholesale to the distro. It's up to the distro whether or not to collect tax for a particular state.

That's how I'm reading pinside right now. I have an old laptop that is more or less a permanent media player for the tv.

The audio and the lighting is badass. The shots look great. It looks like Spooky has hit full stride with this release. I am more psyched than ever!

Agreed. I wasn't concerned until I saw UM, which I thought looked much further along with the animations and light shows. Then Bug said they were both at about the same point in code development. I hope he was just referring to the rules and not the player feedback and asset use. I know they mentioned there's a lot more to be added still, but I do think Halloween is a difficult theme to translate into pinball, so I wouldn't say that what was shown makes me feel better about it exactly.

I did love the remixed John Carpenter tunes that were used. The music was a concern of mine until I saw this. More variety would still go a long way, though.

There's an awful lot of Halloween spots up for sale in the marketplace today.

It's as if the UM buyers think there's somehow something to be gained by trashing Halloween. As if that's somehow going to elevate UM in the court of public opinion. If Halloween sinks, both games will sink. We're all on this crazy train together, like it or not.

I had been second guessing my decision to order a BSE instead of a CE due to my low ceilings. I'm thinking now that the BSE is going to be worth the wait. The iridescent black powdercoat will look better than the gold. The title will look better in that negative space on the backglass than on the topper. Stuff like the speaker grill covers and knives can be easily added. This is just my own aesthetic preference. I'm sure the CE will continue to be the most desirable model.

'el space'... Spanish for... 'the space'!

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Unfortunately, this happens all the time. On a past game, I had ordered direct early on. MONTHS later, I was talking the game up to a friend and he decided to pre-order one too, but went through a distro. He ended up getting his game 2 days before me and invited to me to his release party. I don't talk up my pre-orders so much any more.

Nice coach! I have a '60 caddy.

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I'm pretty sure there was at least 1 or 2 JLC clips from the movie shown in the Jack Danger stream. I don't think this will be an issue.

RebelGuitars picked up his game from SFGE over the weekend. They are just starting to get games in people's hands.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/spooky-halloween-babysitters-welcome/page/42#post-6457915

I'm not sure if this was posted before, but Marco did a nice look under the hood on Halloween. A lot of good info here.

It may also be worth checking with Kingpin games. He had a few spots available a couple weeks or so ago, though they were likely also for CE's.

K man is ok in small doses, but he is a bit of a price pumper. He has been down on Halloween from the beginning. Since he bought into Ultraman, he's become like those guys in the UM threads who can't help but to keep repeating how they are so awesome for buying a cool theme like UM instead of a stupid theme like Halloween. The chances of him now giving Halloween a glowing review were slim to none no matter what.

One night away from Pinside and this thread exploded and there is a mass sell off in the market place... Based on the comments here, I am not even going to watch the new stream. I knew buying this game was a big risk going in, but I had been waiting for a horror movie theme since I got into pinball. Otherwise, I would have waited on the sidelines. I hate having to impulse buy these games based on so little information. If I had to bet from the beginning, I would have predicted that this game would be a dud. You know why? Because it's a Spooky game and I got in on it! It's doomed from the start. Every NIB game I buy ends up being the latest game getting bashed by everyone around the pinball water cooler. I bought AMH and RZ and those games are worth less today than they sold for new and are pretty much universally panned. So I took a break from Spooky NIB and missed out on TNA and R&M which have both exploded in popularity. Now I've been lured back in by a killer theme and things are looking grim once again. So, sorry guys, my bad! Seriously though, I don't know how this game is going to ultimately turn out, but I am exhausted with the drama. I feel like it's off to a slippery start, whether it's deserved or not.

Marco Specialties had done a great interview with Spooky a few weeks back where they went over all of the hardware inside a Halloween. Now it looks like the video has been taken down. Anyone know why or if it will be re-posted?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/spooky-halloween-babysitters-welcome/page/47#post-6475723

So, what happens if you hold the flipper up when the ball ejects from the lifter? Does it have enough momentum to pass to the other flipper, or do you need to flip to save the ball?

He did say 'Since BSD'.

True horror fans like Halloween III. This is actually a good litmus test I use, because the unitiated will always jump to saying Halloween III sucks because 'it doesn't even have Michael Myers in it!'. For example, my co-workers who have horrible taste in movies (they thought Ghostbusters 2016 was better than the original, FFS, and thought Jaws was dumb because the 'shark looked so fake') argued that Halloween III was garbage, while every single horror movie or film buff that I know thinks Halloween III is one of the best entries in the series. It's a well constructed and original horror story that has withstood the test of time.

I just played a dozen games on Halloween. I thought the feel of the flippers and the shots were great. This is hands down the best shooting Spooky game. The code clearly needs a lot of TLC, but the foundation for this game is solid. The modes not timing out doesn't seem right. At times, no inserts were lit on the playfield and I had no idea what to shoot for. For the lifters, I thought the returns from the upper playfield were a bit long, but the hedge shots were fine. It has just enough of a surprise element to keep you on your toes, raising the tension. The theming is pretty spot on and I'm looking forward to playing this one in the dark.

No, but they expect to have CEs completed within the next 2 months, and then onto the BSE's.