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#3601 44 days ago
Quoted from Obed_Marsh:

Ya, my problem with the 2018 reboot wasn't scrapping most of the sequels since that is pretty common for long running horror franchises that have turned into a continuity mess. That said I thought it was really lame and pretentious to scrap Halloween 2 as I thought that was a really solid sequel.
I know that John Carpenter hates Halloween 2, but it is definitely a cut above the rest of the mostly junk sequels and Myers following Laurie to the hospital the same night really drives home how scarred she would have been by the encounter later in life.
If it had been up to me Halloween 2018 and onward should have picked up after 2.

I picked up the 4K version of H1, 2 and 3 recently. 1 is amazing obviously, and H3 is as awesome and silly as I remember - but I was really looking forward to 2, as I haven’t seen that in 15 years. Yeaaaah, it didn’t hold up as much as I had hoped. It’s fine, but back to back with 1, eh… I did kind of miss the whole connection with Laurie from 2, but overall the movie isn’t as great as I remembered. VERY cool to have the TV versions of both movies on the discs.

#3602 44 days ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

Watched and enjoyed it last night. Pretty much impossible to every beat the original and initial followup in any series ( maybe John Wick for me).
HK had enough to be a good flick. Actually thought several parts ( his face shots/ images, subtle stuff going on behind, throwback tie ins, nice blood and guts) were actually quite good for this kind of movie.
Decent plot, couple cringe worthy moments for sure. I've seen way worse....overall, it delivered.

I liked all the parts that didn't have Jaimie Lee Curtis in it....I know that sounds harsh but it's true for me. She is like a broken record now, sort of like Linda Hamilton in the last Terminator movie..

#3603 44 days ago
Quoted from kciaccio:

I liked all the parts that didn't have Jaimie Lee Curtis in it....I know that sounds harsh but it's true for me. She is like a broken record now, sort of like Linda Hamilton in the last Terminator movie..

Kind of agree w you...she's obviously a key player in the whole thing, but got too cosmic in her theory stuff. I don't need this kind of movie to make sense to be good. If she'd got out and stabbed him in eye or something.... might have been better...

Michael did kick ass however...just enough carnage to keep it a slasher

#3604 44 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I picked up the 4K version of H1, 2 and 3 recently. 1 is amazing obviously, and H3 is as awesome and silly as I remember - but I was really looking forward to 2, as I haven’t seen that in 15 years. Yeaaaah, it didn’t hold up as much as I had hoped. It’s fine, but back to back with 1, eh… I did kind of miss the whole connection with Laurie from 2, but overall the movie isn’t as great as I remembered. VERY cool to have the TV versions of both movies on the discs.

Funny you mention that since I just ordered the new 4k discs. Quite possible I'll have a similar reaction. I've rewatched the original MANY times, but I haven't rewatched the sequels including 2 in well over a decade.

It may not hold up as well as I remember it watching now, but I remember originally thinking it was a near perfect sequel.

#3605 44 days ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

Kind of agree w you...she's obviously a key player in the whole thing, but got too cosmic in her theory stuff. I don't need this kind of movie to make sense to be good. If she'd got out and stabbed him in eye or something.... might have been better...
Michael did kick ass however...just enough carnage to keep it a slasher

That fire fighter fight scene..lol

#3606 44 days ago

He was definitely brutal in this film. Some of the death scenes were very well done and I did like a couple of the instances where Michael was up to his old games as he toyed with his victims. Not to spoil, but one of my favorites was The slow camera pan as one victim died slowly watching what was going on was quite creepy.

#3607 44 days ago
Quoted from Obed_Marsh:

Funny you mention that since I just ordered the new 4k discs. Quite possible I'll have a similar reaction. I've rewatched the original MANY times, but I haven't rewatched the sequels including 2 in well over a decade.
It may not hold up as well as I remember it watching now, but I remember originally thinking it was a near perfect sequel.

You’ll still like it, it’s not like it’s Battlefield Earth or anything - and the transfers look awesome. Who would have thought that III would ever look BETTER than it did the day it was released!

#3608 44 days ago
Quoted from John-Floyd:

He was definitely brutal in this film. Some of the death scenes were very well done and I did like a couple of the instances where Michael was up to his old games as he toyed with his victims. Not to spoil, but one of my favorites was The slow camera pan as one victim died slowly watching what was going on was quite creepy.

The scene with Lenny Clarke? That was definitely brutal! Man I did NOT like that scene you’re referring to LOL

#3609 44 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

The scene with Lenny Clarke? That was definitely brutal! Man I did NOT like that scene you’re referring to LOL

Yep that’s the one. They both didn’t fare so well!

#3610 44 days ago

Cheese ,Cheese ,and more Cheese ! Actually I thought the filming locations were real cool ,especially the bar .My wife fell asleep, but me and the kids were entertained .The ending would’ve been better if less townies were there to attack him but whatever, MM slaying 30 or so was pretty cool .This story needs a twist now.He needs to actually die and it can continue on with his girlfriend Michelle and they’re child Mark ?

#3611 44 days ago
Quoted from Kkoss24:

Cheese ,Cheese ,and more Cheese ! Actually I thought the filming locations were real cool ,especially the bar .My wife fell asleep, but me and the kids were entertained .The ending would’ve been better if less townies were there to attack him but whatever, MM slaying 30 or so was pretty cool .This story needs a twist now.He needs to actually die and it can continue on with his girlfriend Michelle and they’re child Mark ?

When I saw your viewing location choice I was concerned you wouldn't be getting the full experience. . . This one needs to be watched on a large screen combined with a nice sound system to truly appreciate. . .

I also loved how they are tying in Silver Shamrock Novelties. . . and for a little cheese, I hope you didn't miss or overlook some pretty good acting by a legend (AMH). . .

I can certainly see how it doesn't stay in its lane, though but I guess I love it for that

#3612 44 days ago

I'm sad this is part of a trilogy - "Halloween Ends" being the final installment. Should've just let this movie end it all.

#3613 44 days ago

Well then just like Final Fantasy they would have to make 12 additional ones like Halloween:The End Part 13

#3614 43 days ago
Quoted from Kkoss24:

Cheese ,Cheese ,and more Cheese ! Actually I thought the filming locations were real cool ,especially the bar .My wife fell asleep, but me and the kids were entertained .The ending would’ve been better if less townies were there to attack him but whatever, MM slaying 30 or so was pretty cool .This story needs a twist now.He needs to actually die and it can continue on with his girlfriend Michelle and they’re child Mark ?

There is a twist - I don’t know what it is, but in one of the final scenes Laurie says something like “he not after me…” even though basically she’s after HIM now. I just hope Danny McBride is up to the writing challenge

#3615 43 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

There is a twist - I don’t know what it is, but in one of the final scenes Laurie says something like “he not after me…” even though basically she’s after HIM now. I just hope Danny McBride is up to the writing challenge

Think you're right....definitely no closure in this one, and hints towards what it might be.

I'm just not sure how they kill the bastard....definitely immortal in some instances ( multiple gunshots, fire, etc)...others, he's knocked out a bit with a bat, very mortal like...tricky one he is...

#3616 43 days ago

Wow, shocked people are saying the new movie was decent?

Wifey and I were both yelling at the screen at how terrible the script, actoring, PCness, AMH being Billy-Badass?, and all the other absurdities.

The movie was absolutely horrible to us. Even at $5 we feel ripped off. LOL. Only good thing was we had a fun blasting it apart.

#3617 43 days ago

Cut out some of the bullshit and it was a great film:
Marion chambers acting was awful. “This is for Dr. loomis!” That was So bad.
“Evil dies tonight” was so overdone it was comical.
The mob scene with the other smiths grove patient was awful. As if a 5 ft 2 fat troll looking guy was mistaken for Michael….comon - cringe worthy. I get the point they were trying to make with monsters creating monsters, but it took up way too much time. Looks like they are pushing some slight agenda with this film reflecting on modern society (ugh). I get it, but it was overdone.
Take out the things above and I think it’s a winner. Hopefully they make some adjustments in the directors cut if they go that route.

#3618 43 days ago

This movie was kind of a jumbled mess. It didn't know what it wanted to be. It had some elements of all the following: classic suspenseful Halloween, slasher movie approach (more like Friday 13th), social justice messaging, horrible acting, cringey moments, cheesy plot points, etc. That said, the bar of Halloween sequels other than 2 (and obviously 3) is so low, that I actually enjoyed this hot mess more than most of the other Halloween movies, despite boat loads of negative.

I think for me what made it more entertaining was that it finally dropped the same formula that EVERY Halloween movie followed (other than 3), and got SO tired by the end of the string. Nothing happens for 45 minutes...people scared of Michael for 20 minutes...people die for 25 minutes...Michael "dies" at the end. Some sequels executed this worse than others, but when I binged all the movies a while back it got so monotonous, because they all fit into the same general cookie-cutter. I've always been more of a F13 fan than Halloween (as a full series of movies) and Michael behaving more like Jason and actually having some fun interesting kills (sexy nurse-doctor death was hilarious/awesome!) felt fresh for Halloween. Ignore the fact that this means senior citizen Michael was more athletic and dynamic than all his earlier versions. Also, no offense, but less is more when it comes to JLC too, so that also helped.

Ending was STUPID (Michael isn't the enemy, hate is...ugh)! Totally should have just ended it here. Unless something crazeballs and creative happens in the last movie, I feel like it isn't needed.

#3619 43 days ago

Above comments by others sort of summarize my take...

1st Alien, 1st Halloween, 1st Exorcist, 1 F13, 1st Texas Chainsaw,...on and on.....I'm like " wtf?" that's some classic horror stuff right there.

The sequels always are sort of just mindless fun for me at that point...HK fit the bill nicely....take the cringe crap out including " deeper meaning", chants, etc. ( I generally just laugh " you gotta be kidding me" at that stuff), and several parts were pretty cool.

Classic horror? Of course not. A nice visit w Michael? Yep. Just me

#3620 43 days ago

Love the Halloween movies, even the Rob Zombie ones (huge fan of White Zombie and Rob tho). This new one was just meh for me. Would love to play the pin soon.

#3621 43 days ago

I did like that the 3 people killed in the park had the 3 masks from part 3.

#3622 43 days ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

Above comments by others sort of summarize my take...
1st Alien, 1st Halloween, 1st Exorcist, 1 F13, 1st Texas Chainsaw,...on and on.....I'm like " wtf?" that's some classic horror stuff right there.
The sequels always are sort of just mindless fun for me at that point...

Aliens was a fantastic sequel!

#3623 43 days ago

Watched the new movie last night.

Good popcorn stuff. Hand in your brain at the door.

However (spoiler …) it was pretty dumb that MM got shot a lot, stabbed a lot, beaten with bats a lot … and still got up like nothing happened and walked around and killed some more.

I thought he was a crazy dude - not a indestructible robot.

Can’t kill off the franchise I guess!

rd

#3624 43 days ago

This thread has become the Halloween Kills movie spoiler thread? Great

#3625 43 days ago
Quoted from Porkfritter:

When I saw your viewing location choice I was concerned you wouldn't be getting the full experience. . . This one needs to be watched on a large screen combined with a nice sound system to truly appreciate. . .
I also loved how they are tying in Silver Shamrock Novelties. . . and for a little cheese, I hope you didn't miss or overlook some pretty good acting by a legend (AMH). . .
I can certainly see how it doesn't stay in its lane, though
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but I guess I love it for that

Had a 32inch out back with a sound bar hooked up under a gazebo .Was cold out and had a fire going ,perfect setting .I really liked it ,and yes AMH was stellar ! I don’t get how people would feel ripped off .It’s a movie about a dude that just won’t die no matter how much led and steel are pumped into him .This isn’t “Shawshank” ,this is Halloween .Nothing will compare to the original just like most rock bands put they’re best out early but it was really entertaining to us .Seems to be doing pretty well at the box office also

#3626 43 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Watched the new movie last night.
Good popcorn stuff. Hand in your brain at the door.
However (spoiler …) it was pretty dumb that MM got shot a lot, stabbed a lot, beaten with bats a lot … and still got up like nothing happened and walked around and killed some more.
I thought he was a crazy dude - not a indestructible robot.
Can’t kill off the franchise I guess!
rd

True....must have had a teleporter too...showing up all over the place....hard to keep track of him!!

#3627 43 days ago
Quoted from arzoo:

Aliens was a fantastic sequel!

Very true!!

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#3628 43 days ago
Quoted from arzoo:

Aliens was a fantastic sequel!

Aliens was better than the Alien. Anybody who says otherwise is lying. I appreciate Alien being ground breaking but Aliens topped it.

#3629 43 days ago
Quoted from kciaccio:

Aliens was better than the Alien. Anybody who says otherwise is lying. I appreciate Alien being ground breaking but Aliens topped it.

Aliens was awesome, but kinda knew what you were up against.

Alien scared the shit out of me....original chestburster scene was something that had the whole theater freaking out. Guess I'm a liar.......

Pumped for the game ( Halloween)

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#3632 42 days ago
Quoted from Morgoth00:

My local theater
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I wonder if even Chuck Norris could escape that room?

#3633 42 days ago

I think of Michael like a zombie who is possessed and is not alive-you can't kill him. Dr. Loomis-'Get away from him' always sticks in my mind as he is not dead! Is it cheesy-yes it is. People running away at full speed while Michael walks slowly and catches up-it has always been this way. I actually think the Halloween Kills was better than Halloween III(1982)-which was basically unwatchable. Horror movies are not known for high quality acting and the cheese factor is part of the novelty. Sometimes I feel like directors dummy down the films and add social justice elements to appeal to the masses. My only gripe was the directors choice of Judy Greer. Her character really struggled and felt out of place, especially in a horror film.

'Evil dies tonight'

#3634 42 days ago

Halloween III is the best of them all.

Quoted from pinmister:

I think of Michael like a zombie who is possessed and is not alive-you can't kill him. Dr. Loomis-'Get away from him' always sticks in my mind as he is not dead! Is it cheesy-yes it is. People running away at full speed while Michael walks slowly and catches up-it has always been this way. I actually think the Halloween Kills was better than Halloween III-which was basically unwatchable. Horror movies are not known for high quality acting and the cheese factor is part of the novelty. Sometimes I feel like directors dummy down the films and add social justice elements to appeal to the masses. My only gripe was the directors choice of Judy Greer. Her character really struggled and felt out of place, especially in a horror film.
'Evil dies tonight'

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#3635 42 days ago

I am talking 1982 Halloween III Season of the Witch were directors deviated from the classic formula.

#3636 42 days ago
Quoted from pinmister:

I am talking 1982 Halloween III Season of the Witch were directors deviated from the classic formula.

I think he was also.

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#3637 42 days ago

Are you serious about liking the 1982 version-what a complete monstrosity

Probably in 10 worst films of all time, how can you like it without Michael- Blasphemy!

#3638 42 days ago

True horror fans like Halloween III. This is actually a good litmus test I use, because the unitiated will always jump to saying Halloween III sucks because 'it doesn't even have Michael Myers in it!'. For example, my co-workers who have horrible taste in movies (they thought Ghostbusters 2016 was better than the original, FFS, and thought Jaws was dumb because the 'shark looked so fake') argued that Halloween III was garbage, while every single horror movie or film buff that I know thinks Halloween III is one of the best entries in the series. It's a well constructed and original horror story that has withstood the test of time.

#3639 42 days ago
Quoted from pinmister:

Are you serious about liking the 1982 version-what a complete monstrosity
Probably in 10 worst films of all time, how can you like it without Michael- Blasphemy!

LOL - yes that one. Trust me, he's not the only one who thinks that movie was awesome. Always liked that movie since I watched it when I was little, and it has much more of a cult following now.

Calling it one of the 10 worst films of all time is the true blasphemy! Even lots of "true" Halloween fans think it was the best of all the sequels, and DEFINITELY blows away many of them (ahem - Busta Rhymes Kung Fu master?!?!).

Cheesy - yes.
Awesome - also yes.
Dr. Dan's porn stache FTW!

#3640 42 days ago

According to documentaries Halloween was not suppose to be exclusive to Michael Myers. It was going to be different stories. But Michael Myers became so popular they abandoned that direction after Halloween III.

#3641 42 days ago
Quoted from kciaccio:

According to documentaries Halloween was not suppose to be exclusive to Michael Myers. It was going to be different stories. But Michael Myers became so popular they abandoned that direction after Halloween III.

Actually kind of hoping after Halloween Ends they give the anthology concept a try again, would be better then another reboot. Wishful thinking I'm sure.

#3642 42 days ago
Quoted from freakyvideoguy:

Actually kind of hoping after Halloween Ends they give the anthology concept a try again, would be better then another reboot. Wishful thinking I'm sure.

Halloween III: 2, LOL

#3643 42 days ago

There are so many crazy timelines with Halloween. So this is the second movie after the reboot which is a sequel to the original.

The new Halloween series ignores Halloween II, but reimagines the same night used in Halloween II using footage from *Halloween II* which it pretends does not exist.

#3644 42 days ago
Quoted from Porkfritter:

When I saw your viewing location choice I was concerned you wouldn't be getting the full experience. . . This one needs to be watched on a large screen combined with a nice sound system to truly appreciate. . .

Man, I tell you what...

I saw Star Wars Episode 1 the week it came out in what looked and seemed like the crappiest theatre in all of Austin suburbs. Like man it was 4 screens total in there, musty. But they had the BEST and loudest sound system I think I've ever experienced at the movies. The pod racing scene was completely unreal, audio-wise. Looks can be deceiving. These places that have survived for decades in the face of the huge chains are doing something right!

#3645 42 days ago

Another +1 for part III

Pretty much decided I would marry my wife after riding back from New York watching part III, she told me it was one of her favorites of all times and we cracked up the whole time watching it. One of my favorite memories

It’s by no means an oscar winner, but it's fun, and kind of ridiculous, and fairly damn prescient in this day and age. Back in the day, I totally did NOT put any thought into Tom Atkins totally just leaving his wife AND KIDS, grabbing a 6-pack he drinks ON the way, then hopping into bed with Stacey Nelkin! WTF! This movie is insane!

Anyway, but it all just kind of works. The big downfall for this movie was that they released Halloween II FIRST. Unfortunately they couldn't get III made first. If they had done III and it was reasonably successful, they could have made a second Myers movie eventually. But I totally get why Carpenter didn't want to do II - because it led to IV, V, VI, H20, etc!

Quoted from freakyvideoguy:

Actually kind of hoping after Halloween Ends they give the anthology concept a try again, would be better then another reboot. Wishful thinking I'm sure.

There's Trick r' Treat which is very similar in terms of the anthology idea

#3646 42 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Another +1 for part III
Pretty much decided I would marry my wife after riding back from New York watching part III, she told me it was one of her favorites of all times and we cracked up the whole time watching it. One of my favorite memories
It’s by no means an oscar winner, but it's fun, and kind of ridiculous, and fairly damn prescient in this day and age. Back in the day, I totally did NOT put any thought into Tom Atkins totally just leaving his wife AND KIDS, grabbing a 6-pack he drinks ON the way, then hopping into bed with Stacey Nelkin! WTF! This movie is insane!
Anyway, but it all just kind of works. The big downfall for this movie was that they released Halloween II FIRST. Unfortunately they couldn't get III made first. If they had done III and it was reasonably successful, they could have made a second Myers movie eventually. But I totally get why Carpenter didn't want to do II - because it led to IV, V, VI, H20, etc!

There's Trick r' Treat which is very similar in terms of the anthology idea

I was pretty stoked to see the Silver Shamrock pins on the back of the masks in Halloween Kills. Nice nod to HIII.

#3647 42 days ago

I absolutely hated michael putting masks on people he killed and arranging them into set-pieces. It was bafflingly stupid. Also, "oh he's at the back door" "oh now he's at the back door". $^%# off, I've seen Michael's speed, he can't and won't do that.

The only thing redeeming about Halloween Kills is the locations and cinematography, and even the latter is a bit of a stretch since the parts I like are the parts that just ape on John Carpenters talent and style. Halloween and Halloween 3, everything else is trash.

#3648 42 days ago

Laughing to myself about your non existent knowledge surrounding John Carpenter, Halloween and that the series of films were meant to be an anthology series with no reoccurring characters. Halloween’78 and HIII are the only films true to the original concept. Maybe do a bit of reading before you go toe to toe with the buffs.

Quoted from pinmister:

Are you serious about liking the 1982 version-what a complete monstrosity
Probably in 10 worst films of all time, how can you like it without Michael- Blasphemy!

Thank you for saying what I’m tired of repeating to noobs haha

Quoted from Betelgeuse:

True horror fans like Halloween III. This is actually a good litmus test I use, because the unitiated will always jump to saying Halloween III sucks because 'it doesn't even have Michael Myers in it!'. For example, my co-workers who have horrible taste in movies (they thought Ghostbusters 2016 was better than the original, FFS, and thought Jaws was dumb because the 'shark looked so fake') argued that Halloween III was garbage, while every single horror movie or film buff that I know thinks Halloween III is one of the best entries in the series. It's a well constructed and original horror story that has withstood the test of time.

#3649 42 days ago
Quoted from aeonblack:I absolutely hated michael putting masks on people he killed and arranging them into set-pieces. It was bafflingly stupid. Also, "oh he's at the back door" "oh now he's at the back door".

You mean, like in the first one?

#3650 42 days ago
Quoted from aeonblack:

I absolutely hated michael putting masks on people he killed and arranging them into set-pieces. It was bafflingly stupid. Also, "oh he's at the back door" "oh now he's at the back door". $^%# off, I've seen Michael's speed, he can't and won't do that.
.

Michael's death tableaux are pretty well established in the older movies. Taking the tombstone head and placing it in the bed, etc...
Also, teleporting has been around for the stalking slasher icons for a bit too...
I thought Halloween Kills was great fun, but I don't let the newer movies lessen my enjoyment of the originals, so even the bad ones don't bother me much.

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