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KRUZMAN monthly playfield thread

By kruzman

4 years ago


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“If you are going to do a pf swap on a game, which option best describes your opinion between a NOS and a repro pf”

  • Only want an nos pf even if the total cost is going to be more 43 votes
    49%
  • reproduction pf 10 votes
    11%
  • which ever is going to be cheaper 34 votes
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#1401 2 years ago

Sorry to hear your local power problems. We used to lose power several times each winter. Then the city paid a tree company to trim all the trees back around the powerlines. It worked. I had bought a generator the year before and it has now sat for 4 years. I did use the shut off and run out the gas in the carb. I added Fuel Restore to the tank, but will need to drain tank before next start. I have been told that I should use gas from a local Marina or airport that does not have that environmental ethanol crap in it. Best of luck on your tree trimming, electricity, sanding and polishing.

#1402 2 years ago

I got lucky and both of the pfs I blocked and polished this weekend, came out perfect the first time. I caNT FIND AN ISSUE THAT BOTHERS ME ON EITHER!! and that is rare

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#1403 2 years ago

Looks so good I tried out door also

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#1404 2 years ago

The stars also came out beautiful I am trying to get the reflection I see of an old kruzman paving sign in the reflection, across the shop

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#1405 2 years ago

Here are 2 pfs with their final coats. So in 2-3 weeks they will get sanded and polished and cleaned.
The TAFG is a repro, can you tell me whats different about it?

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#1406 2 years ago

Other than one of the many version of green shades, is it the lack of DP logo?

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#1407 2 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Other than one of the many version of green shades, is it the lack of DP logo?
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well that is true, but being a repro IT SHOULD NOT HAVE A DP LOGO. if mirco is listening. nope there is something else. something I am quite p[roud of bein sneaky! (john tuturro in little nicky or one of adam sandlers movies)

#1408 2 years ago

It was made by cpr, I am not sure if they still have pics but you will quickly notice

#1409 2 years ago

It has the barcode on it. CPRs didn’t have the barcode. Did you already add it in, Ron?

#1410 2 years ago
Quoted from Sethman:

It has the barcode on it. CPRs didn’t have the barcode. Did you already add it in, Ron?

glory halajuala!

#1411 2 years ago

It has a purple square under it that said addams fam that looks horrible. The upc is under the clear

#1412 2 years ago

Nice job! My IPB didn’t have a barcode but just assumed it was them only.

#1413 2 years ago

here is how it started

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#1414 2 years ago

the stars looks amazing Ron. Sure wish it was mine....oh it is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted from kruzman:

The stars also came out beautiful I am trying to get the reflection I see of an old kruzman paving sign in the reflection, across the shop
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#1415 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

I now have a NOS space shuttle pf in stock. it has a little planking that will be fixed by clearing.
here is something I didnt know they did 2 runs of space shuttle first in 12/84 production of 7000
then in 2/85 another 620
But my pf is dated 4/1987.
Maybe they did another run to go with space station in 12/87
I have found pfs are usually dated up to 6 months before production of the game was recorded.
does anyone know if there is a story behind this?
I will take pics tomorrow when the sun is up. the inserts are very nice and its drilled and dimpled, so I have no idea whats up with this pf

That may correlate with some shuttles having hot dog inserts versus circle inserts. I think I read on pinside that they were out of hot dogs and used circles instead but not positive.

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#1416 2 years ago

Hum. I dont see any differences.thank you for posting that. The date is april 27 1987. It has another date on it, but no manufacture stamp on the edges. This is where I wish Gene cunningham was still alive. He would know exactly what this pf is. The reason I bought it was because of the date on it, I paid high retail

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#1417 2 years ago

I have never owned a space shuttle game, because they are always so dam worn. I have had 3 space stations, and I love that game and think it would be so cool to have them side by side! Anyone out there have them both?

#1418 2 years ago

I notice mine has a 1 in hole in the white (upper center pf) to the right of the roll over switches USA

#1419 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

I have never owned a space shuttle game, because they are always so dam worn. I have had 3 space stations, and I love that game and think it would be so cool to have them side by side! Anyone out there have them both?

You should come down and play them.
Get some 9-Ball in too.

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#1420 2 years ago
Quoted from RCA1:

You should come down and play them.
Get some 9-Ball in too.
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Thats beautiful!!! and 9 ball. wow. Once I get the newish car I would like to stop by. How far off of the 94 are you?

Which reminds me. I am not going to expo, unless I do get a new vehicle, but that is doubtful. since I live 2 miles off the 94 which is the main highway between chicago and detroit and you want to get a pf dropped off here, I would think it would be super easy to find someone who is driving right past my house. I can meet them at the exit 85 mcdonalds. We can save on some shipping costs. I think we could network and make that happen pretty darn easy, so just let me know. I am all about car pooling and saving fuel.
The 131 is only 20 miles from me, so I can meet someone over there also. That way if we find someone who lives in Grand rapids area, they can bring the pf, and I will meet them off of one of the kalamazoo exits.

Just an idea

#1421 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

How far off of the 94 are you?

In town, just 5 min off exit 27.
That's the Space Shuttle that I got from Chris. The one that had most of the center of the playfield painted black to make the worn area look better. It looks really goood with a Hardtop on it. Not Kruzman playfield good, but way better than black cover up paint.

#1422 2 years ago
Quoted from RCA1:

In town, just 5 min off exit 27.
That's the Space Shuttle that I got from Chris. The one that had most of the center of the playfield painted black to make the worn area look better. It looks really goood with a Hardtop on it. Not Kruzman playfield good, but way better than black cover up paint.

OK I remember that one. awesome that you made it a nice player game because I was gonna part it, so I am really glad you got it!

#1423 2 years ago

Man, I have been hittin them out of the park lately. really happy with these 2. they belong to rc and MW

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#1424 2 years ago

Since I got one done the first week of the month I thought I would get a bunch done this month and be rich, but nope. same as always 4 or 5. I been waxing, cleaning the edges, wrapping and crating all day to hopefully make it to fed ex today still.

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#1425 2 years ago

The HG is stunning! Actually they all are but have focus on that.

#1426 2 years ago

Stargazer looks like two different shades of blue when indoors and out.
Love the art on that and looks like glass.

#1427 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Man, I have been hittin them out of the park lately. really happy with these 2. they belong to rc and MW
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I was so lucky to get that one it was the last CPR out there when I got it.

#1428 2 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

The HG is stunning! Actually they all are but have focus on that.

Ha!!!!

#1429 2 years ago

Damn, those outdoor SG pics are nice!

#1430 2 years ago

Wow, those are gorgeous Ron!

#1431 2 years ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Stargazer looks like two different shades of blue when indoors and out.
Love the art on that and looks like glass.

The incandescent indoor lighting warms the colors up a lot. I corrected the indoor picture and it ends up looking similar to the natural light outdoor one. Here's a side by side...

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#1432 2 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

The incandescent indoor lighting warms the colors up a lot. I corrected the indoor picture and it ends up looking similar to the natural light outdoor one. Here's a side by side...[quoted image]

wow, that is fantastic work! thank you. Once I saw the outdoor pics I wasn't going to post the indoor, but I think they both show something the other fails to. Both of the pf an, and dirt smears across primer and looks like crap. Those coils make a bunch of that fine dust that is hard to clean, so some poly seals out the moisture as well as keeps it clean

#1433 2 years ago

The indoor lights are those curly flouresent jobs. I got 2 different K rated bulbs to mix it a bit but its still fluorescent. I used to know the light colors when I grew, but I dont any more.

#1434 2 years ago

My buddy tommy is going to do one of my gieger alt pf/plastics/BG in a Globetrotters game that is roached. I forget the title of it, but there are pics of a couple on previous pages. Completion at the end of next summer. should be super cool. I definitely want those new LED score displays

I really like globe trotters, but it will be cool to have a collector type rare game.

#1435 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

The indoor lights are those curly flouresent jobs. I got 2 different K rated bulbs to mix it a bit but its still fluorescent. I used to know the light colors when I grew, but I dont any more.

You are suffering from ugly light and just didn't know it. GE Reveal incandescent were the best indoor bulbs ever. I stockpiled them when incandescent were outlawed, but am starting to run out.

#1436 2 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

I stockpiled them when incandescent were outlawed, but am starting to run out.

Wow that's interesting - is the banning of incandescent lights a state by state based law or national wide in the US?

#1437 2 years ago
Quoted from Manny65:

Wow that's interesting - is the banning of incandescent lights a state by state based law or national wide in the US?

Happened nationally to push more energy efficient fluorescent (ugly light) and led light (problematic if the wrong tech). You can still get "novelty" bulbs in various sizes, but I think there's a hard deadline for those to be outlawed too. I just don't remember when that is.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/u-s-phase-out-of-incandescent-light-bulbs-continues-in-2014-with-40-60-watt-varieties

#1438 2 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Happened nationally to push more energy efficient fluorescent (ugly light) and led light (problematic if the wrong tech). You can still get "novelty" bulbs in various sizes, but I think there's a hard deadline for those to be outlawed too. I just don't remember when that is.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/u-s-phase-out-of-incandescent-light-bulbs-continues-in-2014-with-40-60-watt-varieties

Thanks - there's a push for more efficient lighting over here as well but no laws in place. Long term I guess they will be phased out simply due to what's available for retailers to sell

#1439 2 years ago

You would think my vision is amazing by the little crap I obsess about, but actually its poor. One way I deal with it, is I flood the area with lights. I forget the lumen output which is what really matters, but I have left over grow lights in my art room, as well as a 4 of the 12 inch curly fluorescents that are "the equivalent of 300 watts" over my table, which also lights from under. I remember from photography and my telescope that the more light you have the better you can see.
Plus I have dollar store reader glasses everywhere that are stronger than my regular glasses. Also when i am block sanding the final coat, I use a big magnifying glass to look for little micro gas holes.

It reminds me though, that you dont need microscopic vision to do good work. On the H.G. pf I just finished, I quickly noticed the hairline cracks around the inserts, but I missed a little blue stripe that CPR didnt screen correctly.(look below the 30 thousand insert) Every pf has inserts with key lines, (often with issues) so I automatically focus on that, but since every title is so different, it is often easy to miss little flaws in the print, until I have to focus on every sq inch of the surface for the final clear. Unfortunately that's when I find them, and it makes me so mad.

#1440 2 years ago
Quoted from Manny65:

Thanks - there's a push for more efficient lighting over here as well but no laws in place. Long term I guess they will be phased out simply due to what's available for retailers to sell

Fluorescent lighting on its own is blue and makes your skin look ugly, but if you are making power with coal, and you can cut lighting-usage power by 70-80% I personally think its good policy. I know not every one agrees. if it was just a 10% savings I would say, "no way" but I use the cheap curly bulbs in my house which do the comparative output of 100 watts for 24 watts usage. They dont like winter outside, and take a few min to warm up, and they also dont make all of the heat. I am one of those people that would love to be able to make my own energy, and then only use the power company when I have to, but my area, doesnt have much wind or light. I do have wood burning stoves that are over 85% efficient (that awesome in wood combustion) to heat every building, Having 10 acres plus being around other wooded land, I have a reliable source of wood from dead and dying trees. although homeowners insurance see them as the equivalent of living next to a dynamite factory, and charge me an extra 250 a year because of it. I hate paying ins almost as much as the power company.

#1441 2 years ago

Here in California they phased out incandescent, you can't even order them online, they Won't ship them here.its become a real problem for me as I use them for my reptiles, can't use led for them, we need the heat. I'm planning on a road trip to buy bulbs, sucks.
They say they aren't banning specialty bulbs but many distros won't ship so it's a problem.
I'd like to see them just improve LEDs to the point where most can't tell the difference and the life of the bulb makes people prefer the LEDs instead of banning them, I mean nobody had to ban the rotary phone!
B

#1442 2 years ago

I posted pics of this a month ago when i was almost done the first time. when i was doing the final sand, I noticed the clear and top laminate had a 12 in bubble that could be pushed up and down. I sanded off almost all of the clear in the area, and used some dowells I had in the shop and their size of drill bits to make some holes I could get glue under the laminate. It all worked just fine, and then I masked off the rest of the pf, and each coat brought it back further to blend the clear to the existing. Then the last coat I recleared the whole thing. so its 2 coats thicker than usual, but thats better than getting used for kindling which I considered at first.
I did pics inside and out again to see the color diff in the lights

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#1443 2 years ago

I can see some wax on the pf around a 1/2 in hole in the last pics that show the dowell work. that will get wiped off. here is a pic why I used to dislike this game. I hated the art. hated it. Once I played the game, I realized its one of the best in that era for sure. Mine was so beat up it was hard to love, since I dont enjoy owning player games.

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#1444 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

I can see some wax on the pf around a 1/2 in hole in the last pics that show the dowell work. that will get wiped off. here is a pic why I used to dislike this game. I hated the art. hated it. Once I played the game, I realized its one of the best in that era for sure. Mine was so beat up it was hard to love, since I dont enjoy owning player games.
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I'm with you on the art. My 12 year old daughter is sitting next to me and she's curious about what's happening with this guy's nipple.

#1445 2 years ago

BSD looks fantastic. Very nice job correcting the bubble and saving the PF!

#1446 2 years ago
Quoted from radium:

I'm with you on the art. My 12 year old daughter is sitting next to me and she's curious about what's happening with this guy's nipple.

I am known as a pervert, but that nipple shot has bugged me since the first time I saw it. makes me uncomfortable. I just played this game at M shudels, and this is such an A title game, hidden in the lower category's. I restored this title more than 12 times before they made the repro pfs. I would have never guessed we have the repro situation we have now!!! so awesome.

#1447 2 years ago

The chick to the left of him getting his nips bit off is creepy also. her eyes stare. she is judging, I can tell

#1448 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

The chick to the left of him getting his nips bit off is creepy also. her eyes stare. she is judging, I can tell

It bugs me that one of her hands is orange. And there’s a ring on her finger? Like her robe has a built in glove for one hand? That’s not even a thing, lazy art

#1449 2 years ago
Quoted from radium:

It bugs me that one of her hands is orange. And there’s a ring on her finger? Like her robe has a built in glove for one hand? That’s not even a thing, lazy art

I think it's that the dress is supposed to have a semi-sheer, wrap around cloak type deal that's over her arms. Does look odd though.

#1450 2 years ago
Quoted from RCA1:

I think it's that the dress is supposed to have a semi-sheer, wrap around cloak type deal that's over her arms. Does look odd though.

Oh I see it now... funny almost 30 years and I never knew it

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