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KRUZMAN monthly playfield thread

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“If you are going to do a pf swap on a game, which option best describes your opinion between a NOS and a repro pf”

  • Only want an nos pf even if the total cost is going to be more 42 votes
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  • reproduction pf 10 votes
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  • which ever is going to be cheaper 32 votes
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#1551 2 years ago

I printed a copy to keep in my pocket. That way after I slam out a bunch of f-bombs, I can look at how I could have done it.

#1552 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

So I have to finish the polish on 2 Jersey jack pfs, potc and W.W. and a Black hole. Then I have about a week of paint work on the nos pfs, and one last day on a paragon. I am back to less than normal capacity, so if you have been waiting, its a good time to get your pf over here.
If I have ever offended you with my "trucker mouth" (as its been called) I am working on it.
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Only offended the snowflakes amigo, and they don't count. We grew up in a different time.

#1553 2 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

Only offended the snowflakes amigo, and they don't count. We grew up in a different time.

#1554 2 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

We grew up in a different time.

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#1555 2 years ago

These 2 jersey Jack pfs are amazing. The print is perfect except some rogue glitter on the willy wonka. It was less than 10 years ago that stern would cut and paste crap, and then use that 480 or 486,( I forget which computer it was I had) spray paint effect around the pics. So kudos to the person who put it together on the computer, and kudos to mirco for printing it. both look great. then again for the price of these games....

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#1556 2 years ago

486 dx thats what it was, and my girlfriend's dad pumped it up to a pentium. I played a lot of solitaire. I like the colors at the top of this ww pf. If your name is bob P. these are yours.

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#1557 2 years ago

At the risk of sounding like a preditor, I always had a thing for veruka salt. I could tell even back then though, she was in to older guys. So I had no chance.

#1558 2 years ago

Julie Dawn Cole (born 26 October 1957) is an English actress, author, psychotherapist and singer. She began her career as a child performer in the 1971 film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory, playing Veruca Salt. "I want it and I want it NOW!"

#1559 2 years ago

Of course she is a therapist. I am crazy for nurses, teachers and shrinks!

#1560 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

These 2 jersey Jack pfs are amazing. The print is perfect except some rogue glitter on the willy wonka. It was less than 10 years ago that stern would cut and paste crap, and then use that 480 or 486,( I forget which computer it was I had) spray paint effect around the pics. So kudos to the person who put it together on the computer, and kudos to mirco for printing it. both look great. then again for the price of these games....
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OMG, both Pirates and Wonka look absolutely Gorgeous....great job Ron!

#1561 2 years ago

I am super critical of my work, and there is nothing for me to bitch about on either. The guy who owns them is odd as a customer. he is a great customer and cool fella, but he sends a bunch of pfs when he gets them, and then after a year and a half or so he comes and gets them all. Most laid back man I have encountered. I never hear if he is happy or sad, but since he sends more, I assume he is happy. He may be the one that sent the centaur to hep, who doesnt like to install my clear. who ever the owner is I feel bad because clear washers were used under everything because he couldnt screw in to the pf without breaking and cracking the clear.
If you want a clear coat that is flat and stays that way, you have to remove a small area of the clear before drilling or screwing. You cant thread a screw in to the clear, its like glass. The install kit I sell for $95 has a dozen different dremmil bits for removing the clear, plus a stone to clean the bits, plus a size tool and a glue kit w applicators. The glue is for mistakes, or if you want to get crazy, and just drip a drop down the inside of the hole that you made in the clear. This glue is so insane thin it quickly wicks in to the wood, and grabs the clear from under, and all around the hole.

I have told this story before, but once I was dimpling a IPB FH pf, and every time I drilled with the little bit it listed the clear, and ghosted the clear around the hole for about 2 mm. I watered down this glue, injected it in the drilled hole with a hypo, and it instantly filled the ghosting and locked it down. perfect!

#1562 2 years ago

This is making me crazy because I cant figure out how to get this from my email to pinside, but I put it on my FB page so here is a link to that check it out. Its a pic of a TAF I did installed in sweeden.
https://www.facebook.com/ron.kruzman/videos/464427571610827/

#1563 2 years ago

No comments on that installed TAF pf from sweeden??? WTF, it looks beautiful!
There is a thread here on pinside of dave macy installing a TAF that I sold and cleared (cpr repro). here is a link to that one
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/making-a-nice-addams-nicer-refresh-and-bulletproofing#post-6572071

#1564 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

No comments on that installed TAF pf from sweeden??? WTF, it looks beautiful!
There is a thread here on pinside of dave macy installing a TAF that I sold and cleared (cpr repro). here is a link to that one
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/making-a-nice-addams-nicer-refresh-and-bulletproofing#post-6572071

Yes you're right, it's absolutely stunning - I could even see why you wouldn't want to play it, rather just have it to admire the beauty ... but it is a pinball machine and made played

#1565 2 years ago
Quoted from Manny65:

Yes you're right, it's absolutely stunning - I could even see why you wouldn't want to play it, rather just have it to admire the beauty ... but it is a pinball machine and made played

I agree. having a pin you cant play is like having a porn star girlfriend you cant....
I have spent as much time trying to make the surface as tough and resistant to ball dimples as possible. To me it is more important than the look before it gets installed.

#1566 2 years ago

Is there anyone close enough to west michigan that can fix a problem with a bone busters? Not looking for a favor, I would like to pay someone. The problem is I have a couple guys around here that can fix bally/williams/sterns in their sleep, but not gottlieb.
Please let me know, or if you know someone i should contact.
Thank you.

#1567 2 years ago

Here is some prep on one of the 2 demo man pfs I am doing. Its so hard to sand these down without getting in to the ink. So this was almost entirely done by hand and dremmil. All it takes is missing a little crescent low point on an insert, and it could ghost in the future, and we dont want that.

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#1568 2 years ago

This demo pf looks familiar!
Has to be nerve wracking sanding down those NOS diamondplates.

#1569 2 years ago

Yes it makes me cringe thinking one mistake could set you back! I do enjoy DM. It's a fun game to play for something different using the handles. Can't wait to see them when you're done Ron!

#1570 2 years ago

So excited to get my nos pf with the Kruzman treatment. Kickass.

#1571 2 years ago

Well I think I found the problem with my bone busters. so now I have to move around a bunch of games in storage and pull the mpu's because I have 4 of the gottlieb sys80 street levels, plus I better check the Lights camers action also even though its the first sys 3 I think.
I dont know why the average collector is not in to these gottliebs. I think they are cool as shit, but thinking about it, its prob because they feel like older style games.
Does anyone recommend a board guy/gal who does gottleib?
My fav game on earth is title fight, with IJ, genie and Gnr close behind. I bought a title fight sight unseen, and when it was delivered the top cab is so water damaged. It doesnt help that its made of compressed cardboard. Also in that storage room is a hot shots that is HUO, and has never been cleaned once in its life, as well as silver slugger and car hop.

Yesterday I went and picked up my old mousin around that I used as collateral for a load 10 years ago that I finally bought back. Its a super fun game but needs to be shopped out and gone thru and am thinking of working on another title this winter. If you have bought or sold one lately, let me know how much they are selling for. I am on face book now and even though those games sell I dont want to get involved in that pyramid scheme.
I am looking for a genie in nice shape, and for trade I have a T2, mousin around, and a couple other games and a lot of pfs.

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#1572 2 years ago

so here is the pisser of the day. Its the mini pf from the JL i finished a month back. I was about 50% done polishing it, and the buffer bonnet grabbed the edge and just melted the clear right off it. I was anticipating this to happen, and I made custom wood blocks to fill in the cut out "bays" as I call them (like looking at a map of a coast line) when its a 90 degree or less edge going in to a bay, it almost always grabs the buffer and at least wrecks the clear. I didnt make the blocks complete and perfect enough to fill the bays and that little gap was all it needed. I even wrote the owner that I was almost finished if the polisher doesnt grab one of the edges. It sure did.
Years ago before I started securing them to the table, one flew across the shop and about wacked the sleeping cat. he is so deaf, he sleeps right thru that 13 amp polisher, and even I wear ear plugs for.

So before i sand and recoat a couple times, I have to make sure to get all of the compound out of the little nook and cranie's of the dimples and what not, and de wax like crazy

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#1573 2 years ago

I finally got the paint work done on this paragon, and locked it down w a coat of clear. there was one insert that was not smooth enough to paint, and hopefully the coat of clear I put down will be enough to smooth it, after I sand. the insert cupping and shrinking on paragons make for so much work.
There has to be a story behind it, but I have done so many nos paragons. It may be the most of any nos title.
Its nice to be back to a normal amount of jobs in the shop. Almost everything is nos now, so I have to put on my artist hat, and slow way the f down.
The owner of this paragon has been a prince of patience.

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#1574 2 years ago

I have to do something around that star roll over insert at the golden cliffs. the original key line is so far off the actual insert, I will have to make a super thick key line to incorporate the original and still keep it round, so I have to figure that out also, so 2 inserts to paint still

#1575 2 years ago

As soon as I finished polishing this pf I threw it in the car, to take it up to the gas station to show the locals, who loved it. One guy named every single wrestler. there is only 2 really that are not on the hulk, and andre.
Thats the first time I have let people see a pf before cleaning out the holes, and I didnt even wipe it down yet. I was pretty excited to be done. I absolutly hate the idea of this being sold. I want this game so bad

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#1576 2 years ago

Tommy just got my website all updated. If you havent looked in a while its pinballplayfieldskruzman.com

I am trying to find some more pfs to have in stock, so if you have any you want to sell or trade to someone is makes it easy, and wont give you the jerk'round, drop me a line of what you have. I will sell and ship them on commission if you are interested in that, check with me.

#1577 2 years ago

Yea its pic day. These belong to customers. if you see your pf, gimmie a jingle

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#1578 2 years ago

Hopefully the owner of the BH has decided he no longer wants the pf, and I will install it in my game!

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#1579 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Hopefully the owner of the BH has decided he no longer wants the pf, and I will install it in my game!
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I've been waiting for this update.. LOOKS AMAZING! I love you Ron but ain't no way I'm letting that go!

#1580 2 years ago

your a pimp Kruz...hows louie?

#1581 2 years ago
Quoted from Paulb:

your a pimp Kruz...hows louie?

Its like working in the bathroom at dennys. I had to put out a litter box for that idiot because he crapped on the floor 6 nights in a row, because it must be so cold on his little paws. so after squirting, shaming and ignoring, nothing worked except giving him the one thing that I cant stand about cats, a litter box. so i have an out door ghetto assed barn cat, with a litter box, and he seems to enjoy it. I didnt realize I had the fan right above his box to blow out the dust while I sand. The compressor is going, I am sanding, and all of the sudden it was like a bomb went off. that cat aint right. Time to trade him in.
so we arnt talking right now

#1582 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Its like working in the bathroom at dennys. I had to put out a litter box for that idiot because he crapped on the floor 6 nights in a row, because it must be so cold on his little paws. so after squirting, shaming and ignoring, nothing worked except giving him the one thing that I cant stand about cats, a litter box. so i have an out door ghetto assed barn cat, with a litter box, and he seems to enjoy it. I didnt realize I had the fan right above his box to blow out the dust while I sand. The compressor is going, I am sanding, and all of the sudden it was like a bomb went off. that cat aint right. Time to trade him in.
so we arnt talking right now

Sounds like you two have a alot in common they say animals emulate their owners

#1583 2 years ago
Quoted from dhard:

Sounds like you two have a alot in common they say animals emulate their owners

when did you learn what emulate means?

#1584 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

when did you learn what emulate means?

Right after masterbate thank you now get back to serving king louie and your outstanding clear coating process

#1585 2 years ago

Michigan guys crack me up. That BH artwork really stands out now. Looks fantastic!!

#1586 2 years ago

Do any of you guys have subwoofers hooked up to your games?
Here is why I ask. My sister Kris only has her AC/DC pro, so I got her a party zone, and a friend did a crazy shop job on it (not just clean, but rebuilt coil assemblies and tuned all of the shots).
I have a polk sw10 powered subwoofer I sent home for her to run with her acdc. here is my question: can we hook the 2 games to that sub at the same time, and have both playing at the same time?

#1587 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Do any of you guys have subwoofers hooked up to your games?
Here is why I ask. My sister Kris only has her AC/DC pro, so I got her a party zone, and a friend did a crazy shop job on it (not just clean, but rebuilt coil assemblies and tuned all of the shots).
I have a polk sw10 powered subwoofer I sent home for her to run with her acdc. here is my question: can we hook the 2 games to that sub at the same time, and have both playing at the same time?

One at a time, you can do it just by hooking up to the different inputs on the sub. For both at the same time, I’d go with this to keep the machine’s amps separated: https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/collections/stern-headphone-kits/products/pinsmx-passive-subwoofer-mixer

If there is never a chance of having more than two pins, the Polk subs normally have a Black Friday deal someplace for $75 or less, so you could buy a second for the cost of the mixer.

#1588 2 years ago
Quoted from PlanetExpress:

One at a time, you can do it just by hooking up to the different inputs on the sub. For both at the same time, I’d go with this to keep the machine’s amps separated: https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/collections/stern-headphone-kits/products/pinsmx-passive-subwoofer-mixer
If there is never a chance of having more than two pins, the Polk subs normally have a Black Friday deal someplace for $75 or less, so you could buy a second for the cost of the mixer.

Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it. That sub is super high quality for the price. seems like polks prices are super low on all of their stuff. Iknow its chineese, but its well designed.

#1589 2 years ago
Quoted from PlanetExpress:

One at a time, you can do it just by hooking up to the different inputs on the sub. For both at the same time, I’d go with this to keep the machine’s amps separated: https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/collections/stern-headphone-kits/products/pinsmx-passive-subwoofer-mixer
If there is never a chance of having more than two pins, the Polk subs normally have a Black Friday deal someplace for $75 or less, so you could buy a second for the cost of the mixer.

I'm going to disagree with this.

The PSW10 has two sets of inputs. You can hook two machines to it, and have them both on at the same time. I currently have this set up (have 4 of the psw10's). The sub handles both of them just fine.

Now, if you're an audiophile, you might notice a little muddiness. But if you're an audiophile, you're probably not going to care about sound from a pinball machine anyways.

#1590 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Hopefully the owner of the BH has decided he no longer wants the pf, and I will install it in my game!
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Fun Fact: Gottlieb's Black Hole is the only game that I am aware of that has two,
---------- yes two, white screens. One for the base coat and one for the last top
---------- coat; to do all the little specks.

#1591 2 years ago
Quoted from djblouw:

I'm going to disagree with this.
The PSW10 has two sets of inputs. You can hook two machines to it, and have them both on at the same time. I currently have this set up (have 4 of the psw10's). The sub handles both of them just fine.
Now, if you're an audiophile, you might notice a little muddiness. But if you're an audiophile, you're probably not going to care about sound from a pinball machine anyways.

Sorry, I should have clarified, it 100% works for the sub and will sound fine, but it does introduce a ground path between the two machines. If I was going to have both on at once, I’d want them separated by something like the unit I posted. I suppose there is a risk if you’re using one at a time, too, but it seems higher with both powered.

#1592 2 years ago
Quoted from vec-tor:

Fun Fact: Gottlieb's Black Hole is the only game that I am aware of that has two,
---------- yes two, white screens. One for the base coat and one for the last top
---------- coat; to do all the little specks.

Thats very perceptive, and correct. I have worked on it and noticed subliminally, but never had that "oh crap moment". What made you realize it?

I really dig useless trivia. I am always yappin things like that I find interesting. Surprisingly, no woman has also found them interesting, nor thinks I am special for being so observant or full of ...crap. I do rock at jeopardy, and love to show that off when someone is over and 7.30 hits
Here's one for ya. when you are age 10 till about 48, and single, you dont think about it. Its just another day, and will change soon. When you are in your mid 50's (I will switch it over to first person) I think about every thing I say, do, and am, looking for reasons why I am in this predicament.

#1593 2 years ago

So here is a pic of a pf I screwed up by getting too deep in to the ink when prepping, and somehow didnt notice. My excuse is I had over 50 jobs at the time, but whatever I hate excuses. so there were 3 inserts effected. One of then I had to paint the orange all around it. The other 2 were just black paint. I laid a coat down to see how it looks and I am happy with it. That orange took 3 coats. The customer has been very patient, and I appreciate that, a lot. Now I just have to build up some clear, and I will be done again.

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#1594 2 years ago

Its been a couple weeks of troublesome mini pfs. The way this one has been cut so there is only 2 or 3 mm of wood in some places, it will be super easy for my buffer to destroy this. Its way too fragile, so I am going to ship my first pf that is not sanded out after the last clear coat. It still passes my quality specifications.
What I did to re enforce the strength of the wood, was traced the outline on a sheet of 3/8 plywood, so it sits in the hole of the plywood. Then I clamped down the plywood. Of course the wool pads grabbed the 90deg and less corners and just burned right thru the clear, and thank god I didnt destroy it. that's when I looked at the areas that are actually very delicate, and made my decision.
A mini pf takes about 1/3 the materials (clear, sand paper, polish) but it still has 75% of the labor. The only place the labor is saved, is the smaller size means each run across with the buffer and sander is shorter.
The last few weeks every single mini has given me grief, Ij, JL, WWF, BK2K.

I guess if it was easy, no one would pay me to do it!!

I am not whining, I just havent posted much of whats going on in the studio lately

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#1595 2 years ago

Louie says quit slacking and more buffing!

#1596 2 years ago

Glad to read your recent posts! I was considering cutting out the MPF out of the Doctor Who NOS playfield I got from you. As I was considering using it, but I got a CPR one to keep my current game going and added a new ULF vertical lift system to it. Sorry you wool buffer grabs things, I can relate. When I was rebuilding my 68 Camaro, I bought a buffer, wool pads and 3 levels of clay bars to shine up the stainless steel trim off the car. When the buffer grabs the steel spears, that I was holding in a glove, I had to let them go. I wound up buying a couple small pieces that got bent by the buffer going haywire.

#1597 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

So here is a pic of a pf I screwed up by getting too deep in to the ink when prepping, and somehow didnt notice. My excuse is I had over 50 jobs at the time, but whatever I hate excuses. so there were 3 inserts effected. One of then I had to paint the orange all around it. The other 2 were just black paint. I laid a coat down to see how it looks and I am happy with it. That orange took 3 coats. The customer has been very patient, and I appreciate that, a lot. Now I just have to build up some clear, and I will be done again.[quoted image][quoted image]

Ron looking great. Knew you would make it right and not in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!

#1598 2 years ago
Quoted from Tophervette:

Glad to read your recent posts! I was considering cutting out the MPF out of the Doctor Who NOS playfield I got from you. As I was considering using it, but I got a CPR one to keep my current game going and added a new ULF vertical lift system to it. Sorry you wool buffer grabs things, I can relate. When I was rebuilding my 68 Camaro, I bought a buffer, wool pads and 3 levels of clay bars to shine up the stainless steel trim off the car. When the buffer grabs the steel spears, that I was holding in a glove, I had to let them go. I wound up buying a couple small pieces that got bent by the buffer going haywire.

I can totally relate! also my first car was a 68 camaro!

#1599 2 years ago

CPR made dr who? I didnt know. very cool

#1600 2 years ago
Quoted from kruzman:

I can totally relate! also my first car was a 68 camaro!

Yeah, but was it a bitchin' Camaro?

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