100 page post? nice...

white spray paint works well on these.

I was lowering the head and this ground wire popped off somewhere. Could someone please show me where it goes? Thanks

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Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. I'll check it out later today.

For those looking for the topper, Starship Fantasy has them in stock:

https://www.starship-fantasy.com/ramps/Whirlwind-Topper

And save $50 compared to Marco.

Mike

Maybe I'm slow but how do I get the yellow plastic off here? There is no screw. What's the trick?

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Carefully... CAREFULLY drill out the rivets.

Ok I found a video. Thanks.

I have a really nice Party Zone if anyone wants to trade. Send me a pm, projects okay.

100 pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a question, if someone could help. I had to replace the right ramp target for my Whirlwind. The replacement went fine. But as seems to happen I lost a side to a connection I thought I knew where it went. Now when the game is in play and goes through the ball check I get an audio sound through the speakers like an ungrounded connection. I think everything is good but I might have that second target wrong. Any help would be awesome.

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Looks good to me

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Shut up and take my money

well......

Hmmm

Well, I’m excited there’s something new, but that trailer is meh. The characters, ummm, I hope they have a lot of personality.. I really wanna see gameplay

Can we play original whirlwind on this new software as well? Like bop2.0?

Yes you can play the original and the new version. I ordered mine already yesterday. According to the site. It says it will ship in 2 weeks which I didn't expect if it does actually. Should be fun, but I don't care for the back glass. So hope my original fits still as I have the mirrored glass. I also like my art blades, so leaving those two things off the kit.

Post a link please mate?
Edit, all good i found it.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/whirlwind-20-kit-announced

Hard to believe that Coyote would downvote a new development that someone went to a lot of trouble to make so pinball would be better for those who choose to add it.

I just don't get people sometimes.

IMHO, it does not follow the game's theme. To me, this is like releasing MMR v3.0 and turning it into a Marvel Avengers pin.
I'm sure a lot of effort went into it, but to my it looks like someone with a short attention span kept getting distracted by themes and wanting to work everything into it at once.

I don't care if it was developed by Nasa. I think this 2.0 is gonna be a bust. Donuts? Nannies? Where were they going with this? No auto-kickout in the shooter lane makes me question the multiball capabilities as well. Stormblasters looks to be a much better effort imo
*downvote is just voicing disapproval. Don't take them personally!
**at least the translite is done well!

For a game that has classic music and callouts… that 2.0 kit just feels like a downgrade. I don’t get the donuts and zombies. I’m excited about stormblasters. If I do buy a kit, applejuice will get my money.

It's not a personal thing in this instance, but it should be supported as a move forward and an effort to make pinball better. It's not for everyone, sure, but if one person really digs it (and there is more than one) then it's made pinball better than it was. It has taken nothing away from those of us who don't want it in our games and made someone's game better for them than it was.

Why the fuck would you disapprove of that?

I agree, but all the hate for this mod doesn't add up to me.
If you don't want it, don't get it.

It hasn't damaged anything.

I can't mention how stupid i think it is in a machine thread that people cable tie a pink unicorn to their shooter lane because i might hurt their feelings, but people are in the announcement thread for this mod that took many thousand dollars and hundreds of hours of work and putting complete shit on it.

If you don't like it (i don't) fine. Move on. There's no need for downvoting and trashing it.

It's an optional extra pinball game. What's not good about that?

AnotherUnpopularOpinionNoDoubtPunkin

I am, actually, quite honored that my downvote means this much to you and the team that developed this.

Time to be able to up vote down votes?

WW 2.0 is either going to be amazing or it is going to be a complete mess that just doesn’t work.
I’m hoping for the first and not the later.
I wasn’t able to put my finger on what it was that was bugging me.
Outside of all the random stuff that doesn’t belong together but maybe all these characters got sucked up into the whirlwind and now are all mixed up???????sewie and the Nannies?????
I don’t get it. Did the storm make the sewer overflow?
Why no homage to Wizard of Oz Twister or the movie twister or even the game twister.
It seems kind of like one of those ADD riddled cartoons where it’s got everything in it, bright lights, weird characters and has the ability to use up 20 minutes of our lives and now my post is as chaotic and incoherent as Total Chaos.

I won't look too closely at that statement.

Manners maketh man.

If you grow to like this kind of stuff i recommend you buy a P3.

My brain can’t handle this kind of stuff!

'Sharknado' would be the ultimate retheme project

I find it harder to believe this was released with the expectation that people would like it.

Well be surprised then, because some people do.

I am in need of a diverter arm for a Whirlwind if anyone happens to know where to get one.

Thanks!

I believe most people would support Pedretti if they could come up with an upgrade kit that is both well-integrated with improved rules, sound and lighting effects, while keeping the feel of the original. This effort, much moreso than Funhouse 2.0, seems like a bunch of random ideas for modes thrown against a wall, with little integration at all to the overall theme. That's the complaint: the display I'm sure looks great, the art is fine, but the utter disconnect between the stormchaser storylineof Whirlwind and te nannies and area 51 in Whirlwind 2.0 is jarring.

Plus, what the hell is going on with a seemingly lack of beta testers and market research. I feel overwhelmingly that a lot of effort was put into this, but apparently zero-feedback was sought or listened to from the Pinside community on ideas for the upgrade. Maybe next time, ask for some advise to avoid some questionable choices.

My real complaint that is if they keep dropping the ball, sales will tank, and they will quit making upgrades, and I don't want to see that. I bought Funhouse 2.0 and have no interest at all in buying Whirlwind 2.0. Two weeks ago I was all in.

Mike

I understand and agree with all of that.

The point remains that today we have more than we had last week. Nothing has been taken away, but something has been added.

In any sane world that is an improvement, even if it's judged a small one.

So my thanks go to the company that backed it, the designers that worked hard on it, the people who decided to put their own money where their mouth was and all the others who helped on the way.

Not for me, but thank you all anyway. You made the world of pinball better.

I think all the efforts to create a 2.0 are awesome! No need to bash on anyone, if you're not into it, keep your shitty opinions to yourself and don't buy it!
Nobody here cares about anyone else's opinion on something they have never seen, bought or played!!
I'm a hardcore retro guy, There's no 2.0 that I would ever buy, but I still give creative and engineering credit where its damn-well due!!

PS. Upvoted the creator back to 0!

Great to see there's at least one more person who thinks the world doesn't have to be all about what they want.

Please explain what made his opinion and shittier that yours...

It would be a waste of characters.

If you can't understand yet, there's no way to further explain it.

If anyone is going to upgrade their WW and they have a mirrored BG they will no longer be using shoot me a PM

Hahaha there's seizing opportunity. Likewise, after someone sells DK theirs I'll take the next mirrored CPR one from a 2.0 owner.

Without shitty comments and negative feedback you don't get better. And I'm sure everyone wants better. No participation trophies in pinball.

I've got one. Heavily discounted. Can ship in small USPS flat rate box. Shipped from Dallas to Tucson prior to TPF. Luckily, it was fully insured. I specifically had the UPS store pack it themselves because I expected it not to survive.
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Yeah.
You are doing these people a favour by being you.

I get it.

You are probably better than someone that's actually having a go, by being the guy who is always ready to dish out shitty comments.
Bet the artists really want to thank you for that.

In fact, i want to thank you for that.
No participation trophies, that's going straight to the pool room.

You can't make everyone on pinside happy. I'm sure the devoted yesmen have invested more time and effort into defending this project than they have actually checking out this product. I doubt this kit sells more than 50 world wide and we don't hear about it again after 6 months. But that's just my opinion!

It's not devoted yes men. It's people trying to promote good manners.

It's not about the product, it's about being polite and supportive to people who are having a go, even if it isn't something i want.

But people will phrase it however it saves them recognising how unnecessarily rude you are to someone making an effort.

My point is, it's as easy to say 'Not for me, it's too far away from what i already have and i can't use my imagination to conceptualize something new and different'.

I'm only saying there's no need to be rude about it.

I bet your teenage or young adult kids would love it though........

I'll admit I'm interested in the 2.0 kit. Already dropped way too much pin money recently so I won't be an early adopter and would like to see some gameplay on this one before making a final decision.

Your non pinhead visitors will love it i bet.

I'm in the same boat. It hasn't grabbed me, it will be very exe by the time it gets here, there's bits i don't want (any of the art) but still have to pay for and i haven't seen game play yet.

My personal thing is the idea of being able to play two completely different games on the same pinball machine is a huge draw for me. I like my P3 for that exact reason. As far as I'm concerned it's $2000 for a second game if you already own a whirlwind... something likely equivelant to a 90s DMD game that I already know shoots like butter owning one and having played DE JP. There are only a handful of games that I know do this. Judge Dredd has the option for a Super Game but both games are mediocre at best. I really like the option on Pool Sharks to play 8 ball or 9 ball. I've often thought that having a second game on a playfield would be a great way to extend the life of a game but can see manufacturers not wanting to do this as... they want us to move on to the next pin eventually.

I agree, having 2 completely diffrent games on 1 machine adds to the longevity of both.

I love bop2.0 but theres no reason to switch back to the original on that, essentially killing the 2 for 1 aspect..

Original whirlwind (funhouse too) are such great games still imo that they dont need to be upgraded so i think going for something completly diffrent is the right way to go..