What flipper issue?

I thought that’s what their updated power supplies fixed?

I thought we were going to go to D&B for your birthday? Bummer.

Not sure how well LOV will sell for them, but for selfish reasons, I hope to god they make it. Haha. It shoots as good as sterns and the flippers feel great. Shouldn’t be very expensive to make either. Hoping for Hot Wheels pricing or less if they make it.

Make my dreams come true AP!!

For those that haven’t played LOV, here’s a video I did where I showed most of the game on the old revision. I had no idea what I was doing in modes, but there seems to be a lot to do and a good challenge to try and get all the requirements for the wizard mode.

The game is very washed out due to lots of sun I couldn’t battle on the stream. It has very similar lighting to hot wheels. Lots of RGB and a little on the dark side.

The game definitely needs animation help, sound upgrade (some of the sound clips and call outs seemed bad way lite over the speakers), but I fully expect this to be cleaned up in the production game, should they make it.

Here’s to hoping!!

Almost all those games are not very fun though. I wouldn’t mind a note mini upper playfield like the Elvis one though. A quick trip that adds a shot or two.

POTCs would be better if it didn’t rock. I like the right one of WOZ. The left one not so much. They should’ve only done one of them.

It’s too much. Cool effect until you play it. Gets old SO fast. Have it never rock or only rock at certain moments. It would make it more impactful.

When you have a cool feature like that, I think less is more. But don’t make it so infrequent that most players never experience it. The hyper loop on SW is too infrequent, the rocking ship is too much. The UV in STH is just right.

Another awesome thing about LOV. It has magnets that are great. They are offset in the top portion of the game. Let’s that Kracken area give an awesome effect on the balls without ever screwing the player over with cheap magnet fling drains.

Definitely. So good GNR copied it. Haha

Rumors on when the next game will be announced?

That wouldn’t sell. American needs to run a good licensed theme. Hot wheels was a step in the right direction, but it needs to be a theme people will buy pretty much no matter what.

If they did Sherlock or say Legends of Valhalla, that would have to be the other game they do during the year as it wouldn’t sell nearly as much, but would help create more offerings like stern does.

It’s pretty easy and repeatable to backhand the left scoop from the left flipper. I can do it at will now. Shooter lane shot is hard, but rarely has rejects.

They are essentially the same, with hip hop being more of a multifaceted term while rap was born from hip hop.

Give me a 90s hip hop game with all the top groups. That would be amazing.

they are all long players. Houdini and Oktoberfest are games that are easy to live, hard to prosper games.

Hot wheels is much easier to make shots so it’s more about going after all the risk/reward it offers.

The other two it’s hard enough to make shots let alone go after lots of strategies.

I enjoy all of them.

That’s been taken down. Looks like there was a miscommunication.

Yeah. Stills for sure. Not really animations right now. If they beef that up as well as the music and callouts, look out.

Best use of magnets I’ve ever seen in a game. For sure.

I hope it would be just a manufacture of the current game with added support for LCD work and music and callouts. Leave the rest alone.

On the one by me, the left mode Star shot under the flipper is a very safe backhand from the bottom left flipper.

Decent amount of rejects if you go after the shooter lane one from a forehand though.

Excuse me sir. Avatar and NBA are some of the greatest games ever made. Haha

Oh I’m familiar with Del. I like your style.

The ship doesn’t move, it’s a physical ball lock that is fed from the side ramp via the upper flipper. Lock three balls there for multiball.

Ship-gate. DOES IT MOVE?!?

But where’s the magic? I want to see the ball do something magical!

Oh they are definitely only doing one game in this year. I thought they already confirmed that?

I’m also I’m the camp that these will be ready to ship day 1.

I think it would be cool to run two games at once. Have the lesser popular unlicensed theme for the sugars fans, then a killer licensed theme to get the hype and FOMO going.

I think it would also be cool for them to do two versions. Their regular version, then one LE version that has different trim, unique cabinet art and backglass and unique art blades only to that mode. Everything else is the same.

Similar to Houdini and Oktoberfest.

Agreed. I’m super pumped they are probably going to make it, but licenses are what sell games, so I expect the sales of LOV to be on the low end.

Art not so much. Yes on the rest. Hoping for lots of additions in LCD work, callouts, sounds and music. Animations too.

I love the playfield art. Scott does awesome work.

Gonna have to agree to disagree there. Franchi is best at drawing real stuff. I hope Scott’s work stays if this game is made.

I prefer pretty much everything else I’ve seen from him to these two examples.

Xmen Wolverine LE is one of my favorites (backglass and cabinet only. Playfield is meh)

Pretty much anything Yeti does. Hard not to like his stuff.

Sword of rage is good all around.

Older games? Whitewater is really good. MM is good.

Left scoop (bottom)
Under left upper flipper
Left orbit
Left ramp
Spinner to the right of the left ramp
Center ramp
Horseshoe under the ship
Side ramp
Right orbit
Shot below the right orbit back to the shooter lane.

I hope they keep LOV to 6k or under if they make it. They will have trouble selling a lot even at that price. If they are 7k, they won’t sell many at all.

I’m only interested at 6k or less. If they can undercut sterns pro significantly that might get a lot to flock to them on price alone.

I don’t think so.

From AP? Dang. Didn’t realize they were ever that cheap NIB.

Huh?

Yeah. That sounds like a good time.

I’m hoping they bring some to Pincinnati! We shall see.

I was kinda thinking this same thing. Would be very exciting!

Toy story is amazing. I’m absolutely asking for it. Haha.

Literally plays once during the movie for like a minute. I can see why you don’t like it though. Everyone that is in their mid 30s has seen this movie like 200 times.

It’s pretty good. No BS.

Any details you can provide of any code updates or additional LCD work we can expect to be different from the prototypes?

Looks great!

Awesome! Fingers crossed we can get one to Pincinnati so everyone can see the prototype and the final version.

No not yet per PinballStar

Per pinball profile interview yes. There is a magnet instead of an up post.

Fingers crossed the standard fits my budget!

Not great for my wallet. Which distro posted that?

Comparing LOV to Houdini or Oktoberfest isn’t apples to apples. Way more in those games. Comparing LOV to Hot Wheels is a better comparison imo.

The difference between Hot Wheels and LOV is licensed compared to unlicensed really.

I didn’t think they did anything but the calendar? I haven’t seen this.

I would honestly think that Hot Wheels cost more than LOV to make. This ignores the overall increase in parts pricing from supply chain issues.

That’s the beauty of this game. They made something that’s very fun and it has nothing in it in terms of toys/mechs.

I’m purely speaking from a nuts and bolts standpoint. Materials. You’re absolutely right.

The art is fantastic.

Did you play one of these? Would love to hear more about the callouts and music. Impossible to hear the one on stream yesterday.

Awesome!

That sculpt doesn’t look good. The art on the cabinet and the playfield does. It’s great. Glad I’m not too picky I guess.

Yes. I have Scott’s artwork on my GOT. Love it.

I say another new game. Bring it!

If this isn’t the coolest this ever, I don’t know what is.

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Just heard the home brew contest has to be a game that hasn’t been seen before yesterday. I hope they rethink that. Sonic spinball needs to be mass produced.

Competition is always good. If anything this will hopefully increase the number of homebrews taken on each year.

They will still help each other. If they don’t, that’s on them. No reason to stop. If they are really in it together, they will be happy for anyone that wins.

What in pinball is necessary? This is a fun incentive that will be very interesting to see how it plays out. I just hope they try to give the homebrews that are already established a shot.

I’m not gonna act like I know what the homebrew folks think of this, but it could be really cool. And the more chance of a homebrew getting massed produced is a good thing. Before now it was a complete crapshoot it seemed like. Now we know one will get made each year. Or at least next year. Haha.

Sorry didn’t realize you were in the home brew crowd. So if so many are not viable, then it will only be a select few that will make sense, leaving the community largely unaffected I guess? Then you’ll will probably get some to come to the forefront that know there’s a path to production for them that may have not went down the road before.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding what they are doing. Aren’t they just going to look over the the various projects throughout the year then decide which one they want to build?

What are they leaving to the whims of the community?

Yeah I’m not totally sure as I didn’t watch the seminar. But I think they are deciding, not us.

Deluxe is already sold out to distros.

They are a distro. Yes they have some. But all games have been sold from AP to distros.

Yes they buy all of them. Presold or not. Not surprising at all in this market. No distro have stock. And I would assume any stock is better than no stock.

Just plan on it being 7500. Make the order once it’s on the line in 6 months.

Come to Pincinnati and play both the prototype and the production versions of Legends of Valhalla!

First weekend in December. Cincinnati, OH.

Yes pinball garage. I’m sure you have Brad’s info.

Once a wildcat, always a wildcat. These colors don’t run.

The sonic game that Ryan made would sell 100%. Too bad stern has that license and not AP.

Huh? So he got all the actors from Halloween to come over and pose for him to make the Halloween art?

Oktoberfest has been in production for 4 years. They’ve only sold 300 plus of them? I wouldn’t call that a success. But I do like that AP keeps everything on the line so they can keep busy as orders for any of their games come in. Something that no other company is doing.

If they actually build sonic spinball, they are going to need a bigger factory. Haha

Oh wow! That’s awesome and I think proves that their model works of keeping games on the line for years. Takes time for folks to see the merits of certain games as we all know.

You have my attention.

Nope. I thought that was what someone else was saying. I misunderstood them.

LOV is selling very well and there are lots of orders for the Classic Edition which they will release later this year.

Not sure how this is possible. There is no pricing, and any distro I’ve talked to has little to no interested lists for it.

But excited that they are releasing a classic version!

They are definitely improving with each game.

Layout theme rules animations. Build quality was always there. Except maybe the flipper issue on early Houdinis

Hot wheels is their best shooter and best animations by far. Rules I can’t really say as all games are different and have their merits. Everyone has different tastes for rules too. I got into hot wheels rules quicker than the other games for sure.

Sure you can. It’s a disservice to the team to claim those are copy and paste. They had to organize everything. It worked well. I hope it continues.

Alice isn’t deep at all, surprised you like that so much.

Took me a few months but got the billion point shot. Fun challenge for sure.

I’m actually pretty shitty at getting to wizard modes. Just all came together that one game.

It is funny how the seemly impossible dream of reaching a wizard mode makes it a keeper. Like, you’ll never see it, and it makes you want the game more. Haha

Buying a game isn’t a lifetime contract. Buy what you’re intrigued by. Sell it if you don’t like it.

They are clearly 3D printed on LOV.

The Viking ship is what I was referring to. Sorry for the confusion.

After that though, they TRICKLED out. Like slower than any other company. Appears they had supply chain issues to the max.

Hopefully they find a hot title and can crank them out.

If they could figure out a way to get that license and make it, that will create the buzz they need imo.

They already announced that it will be. Get ready!

You must choose! It’s not possible to like pinball machines from different companies!!!!

Love the music.

Show me a teaser trailer where anything happens? Every pinball teaser ever has been EXTREMELY basic.

What I got out of that teaser was great music. That alone is something to be excited about imo. Assuming that is music in the game.

The artwork is similar

Are they still doing that?

And forgot to get the license. Haha

Prince would be amazing.