Quite impressed by your thoroughness and journalistic approach: Can't argue when direct quotes brought back to the fore... I don't take this as bringing down the hype.

Im not rich and the fact they mentioned Bowen was INDEED a point that swayed my decision to purchase Halloween.

The pin is badass and im 100% happy, but yea, left a somewhat sour taste.

It was the only reason why I was interested in Ultraman. Dodged that bullet I suppose. I can get one for a bargain now though...

I'm in the same boat. Love my UM, really cool game. But, I absolutely pulled the pre-order trigger based on Eric and Bowen involvement (especially since R&M is my favorite pin ever).

So, because I never liked Scooby-Doo, and partly because I want to see what the end product looks like (actual end product, like fully coded) it will be a while before I'd even consider it.

The SLOW code drops for UM and HW are what bothers me the most. Hopefully things get onto some kind of regular cadence eventually.

2 sides to every story. We are the most honest company in pinball and we want the best for everyone. Things are not always as they seem face value. That will be my last comment on it. I think there are many great positive things to focus on!

That's great. Onwards and upwards.

In their defense WOZ,Hobbit,WW & GnR were real good usage of brand!

Scooby-Doo video where are you?

Smoking deal on Ultraman in the market place.

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Nice non-answer from Luke. There’s two sides to an argument only when you actually tell your side. We have Bowen’s, what about Spooky?

Also, it’s been a year now and my Ultraman has had, what, one code update?

I belive we launched on 1.01 code and are up to 1.08 now so 7 updates! 1.09 will be a pretty dang nice one coming up as soon as possible! You can check out many of the updates in Bugs gameplay videos on our YouTube channel.

What would you think of a company that openly aired dirty laundry concerning an ex employee on Internet forums? You would think less of that company. It’s not really anyone’s business what occurred with their business relationship. So…maybe it’s time to drop this nonsense. There are no assurances in pinball and there are no saviors. Pinball is hard.

I don't need to know the full story or dirty details. I agree, don't throw business partners past or present under the bus.

But I feel like it was worth bringing up because it was a mistake on Spooky's part during the last launch. It did affect confidence in buyers. And I don't think it's wrong to bring things like that up when the next game is being launched.

We can go back to the game before that, and look at how Spooky said Rick and Morty would be updated with new content as new episodes aired. But that didn't happen either. It was a dumb thing to say at the time. Apparently there was some rumblings about how those plans were scrapped because of the change in ownership at Warner Brothers during production. That's understandable to a degree as it was out of Spooky's control. But it's another example of where it's best to temper expectations, under promise, and over deliver. Otherwise you have people constantly requesting Snake Jazz...

This is why other companies say little to nothing about anything at all. ‘Say less all the time’ is a great business practice. So perhaps Spooky is a bit green in that regard. That being said, The community here is very hyper focused. We read everything, we remember everything… so when best laid plans don’t work out we tend to come out with pitchforks. We should be happy that Spooky says anything at all. I’m sure they realize that it is not in their best interest to do so. I feel like they really want to tell us everything they WANT to do but in reality many of those inspirations and plans will not come to fruition. This is why you don’t hear about anything from Stern or JJP or AP until it’s in a box getting reading to ship. And nothing about CODE till it can be put on a stick. I think as spooky grows you will hear less. That will be the bridge that takes them from passionate bootique makers to a formidable pin manufacturer in the market.

They're already the third largest manufacturer in the industry. They're not a boutique, even if they still act like a start-up.

I appreciate that Spooky interacts with the community. I get that plans change, and you can't always count that legal aspects aren't going to get in the way of your vision. I don't think they have done anything nefarious, I think they just jumped the gun on the HWN/ULT release and bit off more than they could chew releasing dual themes at the same time. On the other hand I applaud the attempt. They seem to be trying to get it right, and hopefully they've grown from the experience.

Well put

On a related note.
My friend recently received his Halloween. I think it really pops. The perfect game for a Halloween party.

I think the next one is late 2023/early 2024. I know they're already working on the next game. I think it's Ben Hecks? Or at least he is coding it.

They made around 1750 HWM/UM and around 250 TNAs in 18 months. So making 1969 Scoobys will take 12-18 months. So late 23/early 24 announce for the next one makes sense to me.

Next.....Take your pick.

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After all that wholesomeness that is Scooby, they need to even it out with some Cannible Corpse, or GWAR, or Human Centipede.

Danzig

Please let it be Phantasm!!

I'm sure it must have been suggested before.... how about one of the best horrors ever, and Carpenter's best movie "The Thing".... they had great success with his second best

I'm 45.... so Phantasm would have been in my wheelhouse as a kid... never saw it though.

I put it on the other day. Unwatchable. I must be missing something. Maybe it's nostalgia. I shouldn't say unwatchable since I couldn't get through it. Maybe the 3rd act was gonna blow me away

One thing for sure, SDCE is a warning shot across the bow as far as what future customers will be expecting from the other manufacturers.

It's definitely nostalgia. It doesn't really hold up storywise these days, however, it is a cult classic and would be a cool pin.

There are far better 80's horror movies overall, but not all would make a good pin. I personally rate The Thing as a top all time movie, but I do not think it would translate well to a pinball machine. I do think Evil Dead series, Phantasm, They Live for example would. I personally did not think Halloween would make a good pin, and while some like it, I think the overall sentiment to it is not as positive. I also do not think Texas Chainsaw Massacre would translate to a good pin either.

IMO to kind of tie up what I'm stating above, I feel that for a pinball machine in today's era to use a theme well, it needs to actually have phrasing. Callouts that everyone knows, repeats etc. NOES while already done (haven't really played it) has the potential to be a great game. Alien is a great game.

Slasher films with silent antagonists have little in that regard. They would have probably made better pins before the SS era.

I'm not saying it can't be done however.

I doubt it moves the needle in that regard. They had to cut corners somewhere, or got the license really really cheap. Or, it is possible they are barely upcharging, but that seems unlikely, they gotta survive. The other manufacturers are going to do what they do, and people will still buy them.

Evil Dead would be epic.

I'm still waiting for Bible Adventures...

GWAR

I'll take both!!!

Slow code drop? Do you own any JJP's? Hahaha. There have been like... 1 update in 2 years. On ANY GAME!!! GNR sitting over here twiddling it's thumbs. Lol

I will say it's pretty darn good (they all are) to begin with. I heard um/hwn was not, so maybe that's more deserving.

Funny thing is with Scooby finally revealed it leaves no BIG Spooky predictions live. Scooby felt like the most likely and positive choice for them. Very curious on where they are steering the ship.

My vote is for courage the cowardly dog!

Only if there is a naaaaaaughty mode, clippers and all.

What about a ‘Wednesday’ pin?

Fucking love this!

I don’t know if it’s ‘spooky’ enough but what about a Big Chuck and Little John or Hoolihan?

Not many will get this but I think this could be some dark humor and I always find myself watching it in the fall and winter.

I've yet to read the other main thread, but perhaps Spooky to do a similar duo game release as in Halloween/Ultraman..
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Scooby is a dream theme for me and the wife.

I am a HW buyer and am enjoying this show.

I will most likely end up with a Scooby, but not on release.

Enjoy your purchase

If you say Scooby-Doo is a 10 , then Bond has to be a 10 , they seem to have a lot of assets , just not in the game yet .
Rick and Morty is 9 out of 10 for me as well , but I understand if for alot of people it's not for them .
I would put GNR at 6-7 , but the way they did it made it a 10 .
Early Godzilla , I would put at 6 - 7 but the way they did it , again it becomes a 10 .
Not for me , but Toy Story as a theme is an 8 .
Halloween 5 , Ultraman 3 .
As an Australian , Rush 1 .
Hot Wheels with the YouTube videos 7 .
Weird Al , not for me but people seem like it 4-5 .
If future JJP titles are correct .
The Godfather 5 .
Avatar 1 .
Elton John , minus 5 .
Disclaimer - these are just my personal views and should not be taken to heart

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You are absolutely right, I am VERY happy with UM and RM and they definitely do MUCH better than JJP. Unfortunately for me JJP has yet to make a machine I am even slightly interested in. I am 100% in on SD CE and the Spooky games we own are BOLTED to the floor. But, I would not complain about more frequent updates to code