** The Next Spooky Pin(s) **

I like space themes...

The Last Starfighter
Event Horizon - oooohhh blow up the ship (like MM)

But I can't see either of those being popular enough to be a pin, but I can think of some cool design choices for them.

Evil Dead would probably be an instant buy for me and of all horror ideas, would probably be the most widely popular theme for a pin. MAYBE you could do some Romero stuff, but honestly...meh.

I'd like to see a real Gremlins pin. It has some campyness and good soundtrack and callouts and the modes write themselves.

They did a RZ and AC pin, why not a MM pin? lol.

Someone above mentioned Ren & Stimpy....

I think Animaniacs and/or Pinky & the Brain would be a decent theme for a pin. (especially since they just started them both back up).

Yeah, too obscure though lol. Great movie though!

Don't know, but I think 10 years ago (or more) Hell Boy would have made sense.

I can't believe I didn't think of this one before but "Todd and the Book of Pure Evil" would make a great pin.

If you haven't seen it go check it out. It's a TV series with similarities to Evil Dead but metal themed. It's great. Probably too unknown to sell well as it was only on for 2 seasons. I think some of it you can watch on Youtube now.

As much as I want a badass evil dead pin..please not yet. My wallet and space can't take it

I think he meant Rob Zombie??

Hard to tell sometimes.

Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another it is REO Speedwagon.

If you're going to do Troma....Giger designed the killer.

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They are hugely popular, even to this day (at least in the realm of rock/metal) worldwide. But, I'm not sure how many pinball collectors would want one.

They made 6 actually. You forgot this one, so apparently in the hood must have been popular....and the recent remake, which was actually pretty good.
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So I watched this..definitely a WTF did I just watch. I can't say it was...good...but it was just f'd up enough to make me keep watching to try to figure out what was going on. Pretty sure the idea board came from all those videos of random rolling tires coming out of nowhere and taking people out.

You are all way wrong.

It's Space Jam 2. To be announced with the release of the movie.

When they did r&m there was video of the game only a day or so prior to preorders opening up...it really was a blink and miss it deal. Hoping they do it a bit differently this go around.

LOL that's my problem, just got my R&M and hopefully an Alien in a few months....really can't justify yet another NIB pin right now.

I would really enjoy just a generic Evil Dead that encompasses 2 and 3 (since 1 is basically redone in 2). So many callouts.

Well shit..I'm already out priced...I don't have any kids.

Woosh.

I know everyone is excited for all the new announcements...but I have a feeling we are all in for a rude awakening with much higher price points, and waiting even longer than usual for them to get made.

I was looking at it more from a parts shortage perspective in general..and not just Spooky. My company is already making plans for when India shuts down (for example)

Well, it really depends on what it is, and how many they are making. People were signing up the day of so they could order. It didn't matter if it was LE or standard because the total number was 750 regardless of version. R&M was an unexpected hit in terms of people wanting them and while everyone keeps saying they 'sold out in 4 hours' that wasn't really true. Half(?) were slated to distros and were available weeks after that first sale day. Usual BS pinball FOMO marketing.

They did announce prior to fang club being able to order, so if you are on the fence, you should have time to sign up prior to them going on sale.

possible. I hope they don't go the 3 tier route though.

I hope it isn't next, but after that. If they weren't sure if the demand was there, they should be now.

I swear in the DR thread he said it was 1 game, then his collab but don't quote me.

also keep in mind when they announced R&M they had an expected timeframe and didn't want to be making the same game for 4 years. Now, they are expanding more, and considering how fast they've been pumping out R&M's they have probably increased manpower, so I expect they will make larger numbers going forward.

I had no idea Spooky was going to do a porn themed pin. Ballsy.

My real guess is out of left field, Legos.

It's a Waffle House pin. They left off smothered and covered.

In case Spooky hasn't been paying attention. Evil Dead themed pin would sell like hotcakes. Make it so

Evil Dead 2 then Army of Darkness, then if you like them Ash vs. Evil dead (TV series 3 seasons). And if you REALLY like them go back and watch Evil Dead 1. The reason being Evil Dead 2 is basically a remake of Part 1, but expanded with more story and just better overall. But Evil Dead 1 was less campy(?) and more low budget horror for the time.

The end of ED2 goes directly into AoD, so I do recommend watching part 2 before AoD.

One other thing to note. There is a 3rd 'remake' in 2013 called Evil Dead. This is not the movie we are talking about. It is not campy, it is straight up horror/gore. It's not bad for what it is, and there's even a short cameo, but it can cause some confusion.

Yeah, there's been a handful over the years. This new one is like Left 4 Dead but Evil Dead themed.

That actually did come out in comics didn't it?

Lol, likewise, except my wife is a bigger Evil Dead fan than me. She basically said if Spooky releases an ED game, we're getting it.

And when they do make Evil Dead, the $2k topper better be a possessed dear head.

Stacked and Loaded?

Pinball Manufacturer Tycoon.

Or Pallet Hauler.

Big Rig Truckin'

Jenga The Pin

New York Housing The Pin

Brick Layer

All of these sound like horror pins to me.

You are just lucky. There are plenty of other issues people have reported that others haven't seen (myself included). The flipper issues are common enough though. They aren't just something people are over reacting about. They are flaky and finicky by varying degrees on many games.

I myself haven't noticed much power loss for example - until this latest update, but it mostly seems to depend on the timing settings in my case - but I definitely can't get knockdowns to stop regardless of the settings. I'm also noticing now as I try to get them perfect that it really doesn't matter what setting it is on, it doesn't seem to be the 'same' going back to previous settings. I

I will tell you for as much as I love the game, nothing is more infuriating than a game being ruined by the flipper drops that send the ball right down the drain. The part that makes this even more frustrating is my flippers performed amazingly on the last update after I had them set. I have not as of yet went back in yet again and tried to screw with the EoS - which...frankly shouldn't be needed since I know it worked fine previously as they are.

We are being told it's a coding issue. Maybe it is, but even if the code was perfect, it really sounds like you have to fine tooth comb the flippers themselves before everyone would see consistent results. I'm considering going back to the old code, and trying to set them the same as they were before. Validating the knockdowns are not happening. I don't know what happens to the settings when you update though. They clearly didn't work right after the update(for me) and setting them to original - with the previous settings - doesn't work either. EP said the code should have been the same, but I think there's enough evidence saying that something did change.

This isn't to dog Spooky, it's just the reality of the situation.

Barb Wire remake with CGC?

Don't forget...unless they change lots of things this time around, whatever # they announce, expect ~50 less that go to 'people' before you. They all do it, just something to be aware of.

The biggest hurdle last time was really the web site being soooo slow. I thought I was going to miss out because somehow 2 got added to my cart. I made the 'mistake' of clearing that..then it took me nearly another 20 minutes to get another game added and to the cart.

I'm hoping a little bit of this process changes for the future games. I'm sure they'll announce more (they said something about a new website) as it gets closer to game announcement.

Didn't they also say not Scooby?

Another great theme that I haven't seen many people mention would be Trick R' Treat. Due to the nature of the story it lends itself to modes. If you haven't seen this, check it out, very good movie.

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You catch so much with each viewing. We watch it every Halloween as well.

Most Tim Burton films have a large cult following. Really, most of the genre we're talking about doesn't do that well in theaters, and garners cult followings over time. I'm not a huge fan of Beetlejuice really, but it's enjoyable and can see where it could make for a decent pin theme.

Attack of the Remakes

Story goes Joe was fed up with all the really bad remakes of his favorite movies and went on an internet slandering spree. His hatred spread through the interwebs and manifested itself into a heinous beast that could only stutter movie one liners while it sought out and slaughtered the directors of those movies.

You, the player are Joe's heinous beast. You make your way through the numerous modes of horrible remakes enacting your revenge while mumbling things like "CGI isn't as good as practical effects" and "This should have been Rated R"

I think that one would be highly divisive (old school universal monsters). You are getting to the very edges of the age brackets with that. I personally would have no interest as I like more modern versions. But it would probably sell just fine. RHPS on the other hand, I bet it would sell out fast.

edited for clarification.

I actually was thinking this when they first announced the swag stuff. I was trying to think back to R&M and none of the swag had to do with that though, but it would make sense for it to match.

I think the time to make a Kung Fu Panda pin is past....although I wouldn't mind a Tenacious D pin.

EDIT: well..maybe not...Kung Fu Panda 4 is due out next year....but still pretty sure this isn't it lol.

Depends on if they are looking at something old or modern. R&M was refreshingly modern for a pinball machine. Sure there are some properties that are old /long running modern (like TWD) but you do have limited timeframes those things are viable. While Zombieland could be a good pin....does it really have a cult following like Evil Dead or Beetlejuice, etc have? I would like to see them continue with more modern themes, but I think in discussing them you'd be hard pressed to get a consensus about what is popular beyond comic book movies.

Yeah, it's true. Also, I think someone mentioned this before but we are all kind of assuming it will be a horror property, but who knows. They ventured into dark comedy animation. That opens a whole different genre to explore. I agree though, while I'm not clear on how it fits the clues, the universal monster thing makes sense.

OMG that's awesome! I had no idea. Hells yes. I like them all but I really miss me some ATHF.

and no, ATHF would not be the weakest. I would say as a pin it would def be more in tune than Venture Bros. ATHF has a much larger following.

Just realized..Trailer Park Boys..I would buy that machine.

Phantasm always seemed like a no brainer for a pinball theme. Really surprised it was never made back in the 80's. It wasn't so overly popular that the license would have been really expensive to get I would imagine.

Hellraiser it is.

A cartoon about 3 kids, a pothead, and a talking dog driving around in a van?? Hard pass for me...

/s

I am kind of surprised no one ever rethemed Theater of Magic into Hellraiser.

Well, that's kind of what Alien is...mostly...

None of Spooky's games have been overly dark, but I agree. They release themes that have unique fan bases.

You need to read back a few pages also note the '/s'.

Not what I was talking about, but it's not important.

I played it once, but didn't really think it was that dark.

Yes it has.

Haunted House Remake?

You left out Evil Dead which is both strong kung fu and probably more popular than some of those.

Hmm...so it has poop in it. Must be Southpark.

Not if they can't get Sigourney Weaver rights

By people who would never pay 8k for a pinball machine, and probably not play it on site either. Not saying it wouldn't be a cool theme for the pin though.

haha, as long as they could get custom callouts from Tyson and Pidgeon yes!!

The Last Starfighter and Goonies have sequels coming out.

I go back to this movie every 5 years or so!

You might be wrong about that one. It lends itself to modes as well. I can't say it would be a must buy for me, but a ton of people in the pinball age would be interested.

But you could say that about almost all of the themes suggested here. They aren't looking for millions of buyers (even if that was awesome to do). They are looking for ~1000.

I'm not sure if it would be higher than Beetlejuice or Gremlins, but it depends on what you are wanting out of a pinball machine. Goonies is on the 'cuter' side than either of those, and most of us are more into the horror/camp styles. Someone made a virtual Goonies pin a few years ago and it was pretty cool.

I honestly have zero interest in a jaws theme because I don't think anyone would actually do it right. If it isn't built around a big mechanized shark that eats the ball, etc, it's already a failure.

I feel like as passionate he is about this Sloth might have touched him in a bad place at some point.

If we were all into mainstream themes, we'd all be in the Stern thread.

There's a 5th one coming. Same cast.

Matrix, also #4 is on it's way...

lots of old property sequels coming..including another Halloween this year. What is funny is it is probably not a single theme that's been mentioned here.

Not necessarily..who was begging for a R&M before they announced it?

That's especially the issue at hand. Not every designer is going to be passionate about every theme, and in some cases NO one on the employee list may care enough about a particular theme to make a good game, no matter how many people tell them it would sell.

That being said, bring on The Human Centipede the Pin! Who can't get behind that theme?! I know I'd want to be at the front of the line for this one!

I personally think Nightmare Before Christmas is way more popular than Beetlejuice.

It was around long before that. It might be regional, but I've heard it used clear back in the early 90's. It's just shorthand for hardline or firm.

Same.

Probably be a popular pin, but man I hate that movie.

It's my favorite too, in terms of just being something different. When I first saw it, I hadn't seen the others. It's a fun movie. I mean, with the theme song it's already got an attract mode!

The twist being Spooky's next game is building DR's game. hah.

someone's been heckling.

I love the movies, but I'm in the camp that it seems lacking since it has a silent antagonist and the doc is dead. A Freddy game sounds better (done right). Not a must have for me, so if true, it gives me some time.

My idea for a F the 13th pin would be a generic theme. You the player are a camper at Crystal lake, modes starts innocently enough you gotta do the daily 'camp' things (hitting certain shots). Maybe there's a number of additional campers represented in some manner that start to 'disappear'. Your callout narrator is a camp counseler that directs you through the shots and modes, and warns you about Jason, etc and the game play gets more hectic as you progress with most modes being running from Jason/ trying to stop Jason. Is the actress that played his mother still alive? She could do some callouts too.

To me, this approach solves a few problems inherent on Friday the 13th (and Halloween as well, except there are fewer 'people' that makes sense to do callouts on a Halloween theme).

Or anotherwords, use the properties, not the movies. Make the game its own movie. (The opposite of R&M really). The reason for this is just as someone mentioned, you never really kill these monsters. So you could essentially make your own story within the game and never break canon.

Now, for Evil Dead..you could either do this as well, or use the movies, ala R&M.

Only thing is, the majority of players don't care about co-op, multi, or tourney play. Pinball is mostly a single player experience. Mostly.

Yea I experienced this first hand last weekend. My dad..even after playing 5 different games, still didn't grasp that you hit the start button on the front to start a game as he moved down the line....

That was a surprisingly good movie. It may very well become a cult classic at some point.

ALice Cooper vault?

That pic doesn't help me at all lol.

My first thought was it looked like the art for Medieval Madness..which of course we know it is not

1. The red yellow could be flags/banners
2. I thought the grey looked like stone / stone walls (thus my Alice vault comment).
3. Can't tell what the purple is.

Dammit...it better not be Army of Darkness...

Only thing I can think is Army of Darkness...

But...do the old vampire movies also have that?

The red/yellow definitely is..as is purple (royalty) granted.

That DEFINITELY looks like a wavy banner hanging on a wall...

What if it is He-Man? there's a new He-Man show by Kevin Smith coming out soon.

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Hopefully they'll continue this and pan out every so slightly each day leading to the reveal.

My first guess is He-Man at this point
Then Army of Darkness (but...I feel it should just be Evil Dead in general...and I'm not really seeing any art that would match what they show here).

Castlevania.

I'm sure it is..but keen people have solved riddles with less.

Using my very special set of CSI skills: Zoom in, enhance, enhance, enhance, enhance, reverse image

Stone bridge/walkway with a banner hanging from it.
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Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

To me it just looked like graphics that were layered to give dimension (shadows). That is assuming when they say cabinet they mean, the actual side of the cabinet, and not any of the playfield.

Except that damn purple area....that purple with those black lines on them looks familiar to me for some reason. But if it's graphics, it might not be purple at all, might just be off color in a shadow.

You might be right, something I wondered is if this was through the glass and looking at side art. You can see the what looks like reflective glassiness to it...but I thought it might just be shine off the cabinet.

I feel like this statement has a ton of clues in it.

Well I still think that looks like a stone wall/blocks and some sort of cloth banner art....but who knows for sure. Could be a rug?

It's definitely not out of the question....given all the swag.

I cannot tell for sure if those are sculpts or artwork, and that distinction makes it even tougher. lol.