Quoted from AssaultSuit:It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type
Don't fucking do that. No diode on that coil.
LTG : )
Quoted from AssaultSuit:It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type
Don't fucking do that. No diode on that coil.
LTG : )
Quoted from AssaultSuit:I just got a SE in last night and I ordered a replay knocker from Planetary and a wire harness from P1nhead ahead of time, which I've already soldered together.
It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type to protect the board from power spikes. In reading through this thread
Did your reading also include the FAQ entry on adding a physical knocker?
(Don’t add a diode)
Quoted from AssaultSuit:people are using it anyway without issues?
There is a diode on the driver board.
If people put a diode on it, and get the wires in the wrong spots, you can blow stuff up.
Without the diode, it doesn't matter which wire goes to which lug.
LTG : )
Quoted from AssaultSuit:I just got a SE in last night and I ordered a replay knocker from Planetary and a wire harness from P1nhead ahead of time, which I've already soldered together.
It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type to protect the board from power spikes. In reading through this thread the only mention I can find is that there is no diode on this knocker but people are using it anyway without issues?
I'm not eager to risk this rather pricey toy. Can anyone out there confirm why it is safe to use without a diode, or if it really is important for safety what I should be ordering?
Thanks, and happy to be a sheriff in training!
TLDR - extra diode doesn't matter because it's just doing the same job something up circuit is doing.. its just redundant. Where as a Missing diode means risk of damage because if the circuit doesn't have protection, due to back current hitting unprotected circuit.
The diode doesn't change the coil driving operation at all - it's just there to protect the circuit. All DC coils will have a diode on the coil, or up in the driving circuit itself.
The problem with extra diodes is more a problem of people hooking them or the coil polarity up wrong. When wired correctly, an 'extra' diode is harmless.
Quoted from AssaultSuit:I just got a SE in last night and I ordered a replay knocker from Planetary and a wire harness from P1nhead ahead of time, which I've already soldered together.
It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type to protect the board from power spikes. In reading through this thread the only mention I can find is that there is no diode on this knocker but people are using it anyway without issues?
I'm not eager to risk this rather pricey toy. Can anyone out there confirm why it is safe to use without a diode, or if it really is important for safety what I should be ordering?
Thanks, and happy to be a sheriff in training!
Diode is not needed, CGC doesn't think one is needed, my MMR does not have one.
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Train tracks, art blades, and these bullets are a nice touch to hide the ramp posts.
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Who makes those? I could see these being used on multiple pins.
Quoted from Roostking:Who makes those? I could see these being used on multiple pins.
Check the Modifications section in the FAQ for details.
Quoted from LTG:There is a diode on the driver board.
If people put a diode on it, and get the wires in the wrong spots, you can blow stuff up.
Without the diode, it doesn't matter which wire goes to which lug.
LTG : )
I've learned this the hard way on another pin... Super fun to fix a power supply PCB tho!
Happy to have full clarity! I’ll be adding the knocker in tonight along with the shaker motor then. Thank you!
Quoted from Roostking:Who makes those? I could see these being used on multiple pins.
Mezel Mods, pretty cheap as well.
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Quoted from Roostking:Who makes those? I could see these being used on multiple pins.
Mezel Mods
Quoted from AssaultSuit:I just got a SE in last night and I ordered a replay knocker from Planetary and a wire harness from P1nhead ahead of time, which I've already soldered together.
It was only today that I found information about a diode needed on a coil of this type to protect the board from power spikes. In reading through this thread the only mention I can find is that there is no diode on this knocker but people are using it anyway without issues?
I'm not eager to risk this rather pricey toy. Can anyone out there confirm why it is safe to use without a diode, or if it really is important for safety what I should be ordering?
Thanks, and happy to be a sheriff in training!
Williams standard knockers do NOT require a diode (its on the driver board), nor are they polarized (it doesnt matter where the wires go on the coil).
Remember that one time about a month ago (and 23 pages ago), when Ryan posted pictures about LE’s leaving the building, and we were all like ‘it’s happening, it’s really happening!’. That was awesome.
And then it all went silent….
Happy holidays all!
Quoted from Ktmat32:Remember that one time about a month ago (and 23 pages ago), when Ryan posted pictures about LE’s leaving the building, and we were all like ‘it’s happening, it’s really happening!’. That was awesome.
And then it all went silent….
Happy holidays all!
Like I said many moons ago, we won’t see any LE’s until 2023 because Ryan having a part reworked.
Quoted from Yesh23:Like I said many moons ago, we won’t see any LE’s until 2023 because Ryan having a part reworked.
Lol. Just being lighthearted here...
8E478758-9ADD-46BF-8491-405892EF29E5.gifMan trying to keep LE money put aside for game hope they get them shipping soon, burns a hole while Tons of other stuff I have to do keeps popping up. Guess if your rich enough doesn’t matter I’m not
Quoted from moonraker:Man trying to keep LE money put aside for game hope they get them shipping soon, burns a hole while Tons of other stuff I have to do keeps popping up. Guess if your rich enough doesn’t matter I’m not
I’m in the same boat. I’ve been psyched about this game since getting in on an LE day one. I put the money aside for it, where it’s been sitting ever since. During the wait some very cool games have come up so I’ve been trading out games I really liked for new ones with themes I love…but damn, that money has been sitting there waiting on CCr for 14 months when it could’ve kept me from having to get rid of something I really liked. Oh…first world problems!!!!
Quoted from moonraker:Man trying to keep LE money put aside for game hope they get them shipping soon, burns a hole while Tons of other stuff I have to do keeps popping up.
I see similar comments in many new game threads. I don’t understand why people rob Peter to pay Paul or put pinball games (or any non-essential “toy”) on credit cards (except maybe for points) if they aren’t paid off right away. I learned that the hard way when I first got out of school and just pretty much got whatever I want whenever I want. Obviously that doesn’t work for long.
Pinball should be all about fun; I hate to see people get stressed out over buying games (or thinking they are investments or, even sadder, having to sell them to get money to fund life). I certainly don’t consider myself rich but my pinball money is pretty much dead money until I’m actually dead or can’t play pinball any more and I’m at the point where I won’t put any significant “new money” into games (sort of required anyway since I’m at the point I have to sell a game to make room for a new one), though I do have money earmarked for another CGC remake if the other one I want ever happens.
This is not intended in a negative way (or just to you) but I’m curious- why stress by tying up money needed for other things? Is it specifically because of wanting the LE? I actually get that because I’d consider going into debt short term for a BTTF LE (another reason I dislike the whole LE “get it day one or miss out” model).
Quoted from jfh:I see similar comments in many new game threads. I don’t understand why people rob Peter to pay Paul or put pinball games (or any non-essential “toy”) on credit cards (except maybe for points) if they aren’t paid off right away. I learned that the hard way when I first got out of school and just pretty much got whatever I want whenever I want. Obviously that doesn’t work for long.
Pinball should be all about fun; I hate to see people get stressed out over buying games (or thinking they are investments or, even sadder, having to sell them to get money to fund life). I certainly don’t consider myself rich but my pinball money is pretty much dead money until I’m actually dead or can’t play pinball any more and I’m at the point where I won’t put any significant “new money” into games (sort of required anyway since I’m at the point I have to sell a game to make room for a new one), though I do have money earmarked for another CGC remake if the other one I want ever happens.
This is not intended in a negative way (or just to you) but I’m curious- why stress by tying up money needed for other things? Is it specifically because of wanting the LE? I actually get that because I’d consider going into debt short term for a BTTF LE (another reason I dislike the whole LE “get it day one or miss out” model).
Yes I specifically like this theme and had to sell a few games two years ago to pay bills. So when got our finances in better shape and besides some home improvements wife agreed to make up for selling those games put aside money for LE so I have full amount and no stress. Originally was going to get an SE but got lucky and guy passed on to me his LE spot when I posted and ad on pinside looking for LE. I just want to get the ball rolling before wife goes hey we can use that money for this now you know
Quoted from jfh:I see similar comments in many new game threads. I don’t understand why people rob Peter to pay Paul or put pinball games (or any non-essential “toy”) on credit cards (except maybe for points) if they aren’t paid off right away. I learned that the hard way when I first got out of school and just pretty much got whatever I want whenever I want. Obviously that doesn’t work for long.
Pinball should be all about fun; I hate to see people get stressed out over buying games (or thinking they are investments or, even sadder, having to sell them to get money to fund life). I certainly don’t consider myself rich but my pinball money is pretty much dead money until I’m actually dead or can’t play pinball any more and I’m at the point where I won’t put any significant “new money” into games (sort of required anyway since I’m at the point I have to sell a game to make room for a new one), though I do have money earmarked for another CGC remake if the other one I want ever happens.
This is not intended in a negative way (or just to you) but I’m curious- why stress by tying up money needed for other things? Is it specifically because of wanting the LE? I actually get that because I’d consider going into debt short term for a BTTF LE (another reason I dislike the whole LE “get it day one or miss out” model).
I agree. I’ve been buying pins for the home since 2003. I put one on a credit card many years ago and it took forever to get it paid off. I vowed then that I’d never do it again. Interestingly I bought three games from The Pinball Company (before their prices went sky high) on layaway. Each time it took me between 18 and 24 months to pay them off, but I just treated it like another bill, faithfully sending in my payments every month until paid off. Now I have full collection, so when I want a new game I do some trading/bartering. My point is…getting these games is awesome. I love this hobby, but going into debt to do it is a very bad idea.
Quoted from jfh:I see similar comments in many new game threads. I don’t understand why people rob Peter to pay Paul or put pinball games (or any non-essential “toy”) on credit cards (except maybe for points) if they aren’t paid off right away. I learned that the hard way when I first got out of school and just pretty much got whatever I want whenever I want. Obviously that doesn’t work for long.
Pinball should be all about fun; I hate to see people get stressed out over buying games (or thinking they are investments or, even sadder, having to sell them to get money to fund life). I certainly don’t consider myself rich but my pinball money is pretty much dead money until I’m actually dead or can’t play pinball any more and I’m at the point where I won’t put any significant “new money” into games (sort of required anyway since I’m at the point I have to sell a game to make room for a new one), though I do have money earmarked for another CGC remake if the other one I want ever happens.
This is not intended in a negative way (or just to you) but I’m curious- why stress by tying up money needed for other things? Is it specifically because of wanting the LE? I actually get that because I’d consider going into debt short term for a BTTF LE (another reason I dislike the whole LE “get it day one or miss out” model).
I think the point is he didn’t know that he was gonna need it and also didn’t expect to have to wait 14+ months to pay for a CCr LE. Life throws us unexpected curveballs all the time.
The great thing about pinball is that if you do need some cash, you’ll likely get the majority of your purchase back when/if you need to sell it.
Quoted from PinStalker:Just curious..... what are the wait times if you ordered an SE or SE+ now?
SE is in stock prob get in few days. The plus I bet will be 9 months plus.
Quoted from PinStalker:Just curious..... what are the wait times if you ordered an SE or SE+ now?
You should be able to find an SE now. The only thing we have heard officially about SE+ delivery is that they were originally going to be produced after the LEs. If that’s still true I doubt we’ll see SE+ deliveries before June.
Quoted from PinStalker:Just curious..... what are the wait times if you ordered an SE or SE+ now?
SE is in stock for immediate shipping with multiple distributors. As far as the SE+......
I believe the + stands for PLUS one year
Quoted from moonraker:Man trying to keep LE money put aside for game hope they get them shipping soon, burns a hole while Tons of other stuff I have to do keeps popping up. Guess if your rich enough doesn’t matter I’m not
Hey man. Keep up the good fight. Don't worry about what others say as long as you have a plan that makes sense. This will be a great game enjoyable for years to come...stay on target.
Quoted from RikV:Hey man. Keep up the good fight. Don't worry about what others say as long as you have a plan that makes sense. This will be a great game enjoyable for years to come...stay on target.
Thanks
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:SE is in stock for immediate shipping with multiple distributors. As far as the SE+......
I believe the + stands for PLUS one year
If that's true, I guess no SE+ will be shipped to Europe before Christmas 2023....
for those waiting for LEs, you won’t be disappointed with waiting for a well built high quality and super fun game. For those with LE spots who are anxious is it possible to switch to an SE and move the deposit money over to SE? They are readily available.Regarding code, if you are a good player you will beat the game in a few days (at least on stock setting with many EBs). the code definitely needs further maturation and development to get the game to next level but glad to see it’s actively being worked on.
Frankly, with the small shipment of LE’s and second hand rumor of parts being reworked it’s past time for Ryan to make an official CGC statement on the status of their production/timeline. If distributors don’t have answers the responsibility is on CGC to communicate to their clients. No amount of patronizing from JFH will change my mind either. It’s unequivocally necessary to set the record straight and treat us customers with some respect. I get that some (myself included) have shown impatience, but at this point I think we’re well within our right to know what’s happening (from the horse’s mouth). As other’s have mentioned, when communicating about sales and marketing CGC shows up... but when there are problems they go radio silent. *Don’t go there JFH with “that was their choice to provide no answers since they’ll be met with negativity on pinside and have nothing to gain by it.” They will have people’s appreciation, confidence, trust, and most importantly respect for being honest and straightforward. Will some get upset? Sure, but some are already upset for other reasons and clarity would resolve those. Honesty IS the best policy and if we are about to be owners of this product, I for one would like to know what is going on with it (parts and production wise). It’s not hard. Figure it out.
Quoted from Ballderdash:Frankly, with the small shipment of LE’s and second hand rumor of parts being reworked it’s past time for Ryan to make an official CGC statement on the status of their production/timeline. If distributors don’t have answers the responsibility is on CGC to communicate to their clients.
Or else… what?
CGC will likely remain silent. You should voice your displeasure with them instead. Doing it here has zero impact.
Edit: LMAO at the downvoters. You truly are clueless if you think Pinside runs the pinball world. Enjoy being miserable and grumpy
Quoted from MrMikeman:Or else… what?
It’s not “or else” anything. Too much in this world is based on rules and consequences. They all come with a price. Doing the right thing costs nothing.
Quoted from Ballderdash:It’s not “or else” anything. Too much in this world is based on rules and consequences. They all come with a price. Doing the right thing costs nothing.
Doing the wrong thing also costs them nothing despite the rhetoric by some about not buying CGC again.
While being in the “I want to know” camp myself, whether they tell us what is going on or not won’t change the timeline. But yes I’d like to know too.
I’ve resigned myself to “summer 23” now actually.
Quoted from Ballderdash:It’s unequivocally necessary to set the record straight and treat us customers with some respect. I get that some (myself included) have shown impatience, but at this point I think we’re well within our right to know what’s happening (from the horse’s mouth).
I’d like to see an update as much as you or anyone else. What you are asking for is reasonable. I have asked for that in the past as have many others.
But no matter what we think we aren’t the ones that decide when it’s “unequivocally necessary”. We can ask all we want as many different ways as we want but shouldn’t be surprised if the answer (or lack thereof) is the same. We don’t have a “right” to anything here other than a good quality product for the agreed upon price and warranty.
We all have the same choice - usually the same one I have every night for dinner - take it or leave it. All we have control over is the decision to wait for the game or drop it. As you say, it’s not hard.
Quoted from Ballderdash:Doing the right thing costs nothing.
What does waiting for the best version of a product you really want cost?
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:As far as the SE+......
I believe the + stands for PLUS one year
Lol!
Can I put this in the FAQ?
Quoted from jfh:What does waiting for the best version of a product you really want cost?
It’s costs the opportunity of using your time, money, and energy pursuing another game or entertainment option.
Quoted from Ballderdash:Frankly, with the small shipment of LE’s and second hand rumor of parts being reworked
Unfortunately, the smartest move is to say nothing about the reworked part. All of the CCSEs and the 30 LEs produced so far have the "defective" part (unless it's specific to LEs). If they disclose what it is, you would have an influx of requests to have that part replaced on existing games whether it was necessary or not (probably not in a home use environment).
Sucks for us - but par for the course at this point. I love the quality and price of their games, so my only real choice is to wait (albeit in a frustrated and impatient manner).
Quoted from jackd104:It’s costs the opportunity of using your time, money, and energy pursuing another game or entertainment option.
No. You still have that same opportunity until you’ve paid for the game. I’ve been doing exactly that thinking about Bond. At worst, waiting ties up deposit money and that’s debatable.
Quoted from MrMikeman:Edit: LMAO at the downvoters. You truly are clueless if you think Pinside runs the pinball world. Enjoy being miserable and grumpy
Upvote for the edit.
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Thanks
If accepting reality and acknowledging I don’t have the ability to dictate the actions of a company I don’t own is deflection, I’ll continue to be the best manager ever.
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