same here

You must've had some pretty poor keyless locks. As I've never had any open from gravity. You can also just bend the metal piece between two vice grip pliers so that you don't have any door wiggles. Also, you might have some rubbish guests if people just start rummaging through your games.

There is almost zero chance CGC can pump out 70 LE's/week on a consistent basis. My intel is they will take another 6-8 months to get them out barring any unforeseen issues, which CGC is famous for.

I agree we'll know more in several months, but my intel is very current (like this week)...

Why not just tighten the lock by bending the latch so it holds against the door tighter? Just take a pair of pliers and tweak it. Then the lock will not rotate as easily.

Also most barrel locks will allow you to change the home and rotation so you can make the lock and open positions different. So you can make it so you don’t go down to open. I haven’t looked recently… but i’d expect the same on the keyless ones.

In regards to keyless locks, the ones I have purchased from Amazon had issues and were not the same quality as the ones from Marco or Pinball Life. The Amazon locks would vibrate open and the doors were loose and rattled. The locks from Marco and PBL keep the door tight and kind of "click" into place when closed and wont vibrate open. I put them on all my pins and just swap the keyed lock back in if I sell the game.

These are my favorite.

https://www.pinballlife.com/keyless-coin-door-lock.html

Agree
More than 7 a week is a huge win at this point!

Well I don't know your sources, but all I can say is your past estimates have been off by a mile....if I remember correctly your "Intel" was telling u these would start shipping last March....so bring on all the bets you want

Thats a good week for CGC

Just for the record, the only keyless lock I bought was from Pinballlife.com, and the mechanism feels like it's spring-loaded. Bumps and or brushes against the mech won't cause it to unlock. I just didn’t buy more because I like having my keys w custom key fobs hanging in the game door.

I use pinball life ones, have never had this issue 1 time. I have 4 grandkids, aged 3 to 11 and told them to not open door or else! . But , nothing wrong with your idea either.

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Very valid point and certainly respected.

Just to be clear my expectations for code are not at the level that Stern Pinball can deliver.
Stern Pinball is no doubt the king of code. Watching the advancements and team building at code level within Stern Pinball has been extraordinary.

In no way do I expect the extreme level of code from CGC and PPS with CCr.

It is however a little concerning to read that a mode may completed in one shot ?

Perhaps I'm over thinking it and need to be patient for a new announcement.
I'm sure Josh is all over it. I'm still reeling over Lymans departure. Full respect to family and friends.

For me the B/W 90's pins were the greatest , with original themes, incredible art, wonderful humour ( especially the subtle innuendo that was allowed back then )

Have to say I am extremely grateful to have the opportunity to own a CCr , thanks to CGC and PPS.

I’m probably on my own on this, but I like to have B/W games in my home to play everyday, but enjoy to come across stern titles on site for a different perspective.

Dude, your game room is awesome! What a nice collection of arcade fun. Congrats!

Kids will be kids. Shiny objects, levers, buttons, etc. attract kids better than pins do unfortunately.

Very nice setup....we have the same dart board in our game room....gets a lot of play...

It's has the medieval madness kind rules. Hit a shot 4 times to start a mode on that shot. Those modes proceed as follows.

The left orbit mode is ~30 seconds of pop giving you bonus.
The left ramp mode is completed by shooting the left ramp once.
The train mode is completed by shooting the two side ramps than center ramp.
The right orbit shot has a moving shot. If you hit the right shot, it's also done in one shot.
The right ramp mode I believe is a single shot randomly selected to complete.

On top of that, you're working through the Bart's. The new Bionic Bart mode is great.

As well as completing the all the bad guy drops for a mode and completing combos.

I think the main thing that puts CC code on a lower level than the other games CGC has done, is that the modes don't really stack. Once you start one, most things are essentially backgrounded until it's completed. Even things like Combos appear to be backgrounded.

It also doesn't really present the player with many risk/reward options that a lot of the better games of that era had. Such as in MB or Medieval where you try to build up a really big mode with a multiball.

Realistically, the game probably does have an equivalent amount of code as other WMS games of the era. It's just not orchestrated as well as a Lyman game. It's really missing his choreography. He had a way of making things easy to comprehend for the beginner players while adding a layer of complexity for the better players.

I still believe the Lyman expansion will transform this game from being good to great. There aren't many people that understand game rules more than Josh Sharpe. I'm sure he'll be able to finish what him and Lyman started.

All the modes except for Train rescue 'can' be completed with one shot, train takes 3. But they don't have to be and more points to be had by hitting the other shots, I think it's 3 shots available for each of River Rescue, Bank Robbery, and Trick Shot. Ride 'Em Cowboy is pops based so any shot into the pops except the horse loop (left orbit) will add points, horse loop is the one shot that ends it.

The modes can also be 'completed' by holding the ball on a flipper and timing them out, there is no requirement to be successful at the 5 modes to start Stampede and get that point of the star, you just have to start them, of course you don't get many points for doing it this way.

I had this same thing happen with my NIB MMrSE. Trouble shot it for about 6 months and it was finally determined that I needed a new board. The replacement board has worked without issue for the last 2+ years.

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My LE #120 just arrived!
First thing I’ve noticed is that the cabinet decals have been trimmed from around the legs. Is this new? I’m not picky…but I would have preferred the decals not be trimmed.

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LOL

+1 on Bionic Bart mode. Only been to the mode once, but it’s awesome.

I love the visual timer of the train moving. My other favorite timer is the heartbeat sound on Scared Stiff. Something magical about a secondary countdown timer in addition to the display screen. Looking at a screen under pressure is not ideal IMO.

They are basically hurry ups - not a foreign concept. And this isn't every mode.

Do you freak out that AFM has 'modes' that can be completed with a single shot? aka hurry up at the saucer after completing all three lights at a shot? It's basically that game mechanic, but more advanced.

The short answer is.. 'mode' is not the right descriptor for these game mechanics.

The game is pretty shallow - always has been. The CGC code flushes out the game more so there are less gaps, but it's essentially the same core WMS game. It's in the same vein as AFM, MM, MB, SS in terms of rules/complexity. Do a bunch of stuff to try to get completion goals.

The main stacking you can do in CCR is with the Gold Mine multiball. You can start that during any of the main modes (except during other multi-balls) and it can give you a huge advantage for building up points during Bionic Bart. Otherwise, I don't think the current rule set would gain anything from stacking modes, each has a clear objective and it would just get muddied up. Like in MB, when you start a mode you can still hit any other shot and I think that takes away a little. Super excited to see what's in the expanded code.

It's not due to the original design of the Williams trough - it was a fix for wear issues in the trough. The reason for the shim's invention was to deal with the trough forming divots that would prevent the balls from falling down reliably. The fix was to file out the deformations so balls would fall freely - this shim was invented to be the simpler solution for those non-mechanically inclined. The plastic just spans the wear area and doesn't wear itself the same.

There should be no reason for this in a new game unless the trough itself is not formed properly.. or edges causing the ball not to roll. It shouldn't have divots or edges preventing the balls from dropping reliably in a new game.

Kerry's trough design was an example of how the open slot design was re-imagined into something that didn't wear into divots - http://www.mantisamusements.com/trough.htm

Beer mug rod sticking solved! Thanks to explosiveegg on where to look.

The switch plate was too far back, pushing the rod against the edge of the ramp protector.

Loosen the Phillips screw and pull the switch plate forward a bit.

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What is everyone doing to reduce binding when pulling back the ball plunger? I have other games with a plunger, but the drag/binding is noticeable on CCr. Out of alignment?

So the default setting is to run the Extended code, right? Is there any reason to play the original code? Is the original code the same but incomplete? Or is it different with different animations, etc?

The original code is the same, but incomplete. I don't think the original had a Bionic Bart, a skill shot, and a match sequence. Though I'm not too familiar with the original.

If you put the game on original code without the color display. You can see the original dots.

Probably a smart solution...I think Stern / JJP do the same thing

I agree ... even though the legs cover the missing decal , looks like crap! plus full decals have been going on games for years cant see why they would start this now, other than having to replace decal sets !

I'm beginning to think you'll never be happy

If it's covered by the legs, who gives 2 shits?

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Its not that bad as u can't see it when the legs are installed

I thought the later games corrected this with slightly thicker standoffs, so legs no longer touch artwork. My thought was that if that is true, and I remember someone sliding paper under the leg to prove that there is no contact then there is really no reason to install the black cabinet protectors I bought. Correct?

They did I can confirm unboxed a September legs are much better and brackets much thicker don't even think it's mathematically possible to hit now not sure how this conspiracy started but the decals haven't changed on any Cactus canyons.

Correct

I added a little piece of velcro (really any kind of 1/4" type of shim should work) and that gives the auto-launch just enough of a gap to keep the plunger from contacting w/ the auto-launcher on plunge. Haven't had any issuers afterwards.

At this point JFH if CGC took a shit inside every cabinet before they shipped them to us you would defend them

Because this is precisely what they are doing to all of us customers. Their lack of commuication has been horrible. And now your our commuication cause you are in the know? God help us!

Doug? Are you there? Your PR specialist is killing your brand.