Quoted from PinMonk:

TNA isn't really a "Spooky" game, but essentially a contract game, so the rerun doesn't count. The Ben Heck/Spooky/CGC co-production is *kinda* Spooky, I guess, but I wouldn't count it, either.
The next legit Spooky is supposed to be another double. I hope for their sake it isn't.

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

Spooky straight up said they weren’t doing another dual release w/ the same layout.

Quoted from PinMonk:

Well, that's good news, then.
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Quoted from Apex:

Yeah except there was a statement from bug/Luke on their Livestream where they said they might.
From Knapp arcade:
https://www.knapparcade.org/post/all-the-spooky-pinball-news-that-s-fit-to-print

Quoted from stretch2:

Isn’t this supposed to be a Next Stern thread?

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

The dual release was perhaps not a great idea and proved to be too much to handle at once BUT…HWN is sick and UM is coming along. Anyone doubting HWN needs it at home to dig in. It really is a fantastic pin. And I am critical as F.

Quoted from PinMonk:

The dual release was perhaps not a great idea and proved to be too much to handle at once BUT…HWN is sick and UM is coming along. Anyone doubting HWN needs it at home to dig in. It really is a fantastic pin. And I am critical as F.

Quoted from crujones4life:

For now on I pledge to respond to each and every post that mentions Spooky pinball with a BTTF pic. You are welcome.

Quoted from PinMonk:

We all have blind spots. I still like Xanadu. Yes it's a lame movie and a weird concept that is VERY of its time, but I like it. Can't unlike it even though I know in my head it's a bad movie.
Halloween is currently not a great game (code OR design) by any objective measure. I know some people are really into it, and that's great, but you only have to glance at the marketplace (right now, even) and see people taking huge losses on their deposits or just outright walking away to realize that the "sick" diagnosis is pervasive for Halloween, but not in the way you mean it.
I hope Spooky pulls it out and makes it better with new code. Unfortunately, the layout is what it is and can't be fixed. Those ball return risers are a huge waste of BoM they could have used to make the lighting look less cheap or any number of other improvements that made the game measurably better.
I really am rooting for them to succeed because more competition in the market is better pinball over time.

Quoted from crujones4life:

For now on I pledge to respond to each and every post that mentions Spooky pinball with a BTTF pic. You are welcome.

Quoted from PinMonk:

We all have blind spots. I still like Xanadu. Yes it's a lame movie and a weird concept that is VERY of its time, but I like it. Can't unlike it even though I know in my head it's a bad movie.
Halloween is currently not a great game (code OR design) by any objective measure. I know some people are really into it, and that's great, but you only have to glance at the marketplace (right now, even) and see people taking huge losses on their deposits or just outright walking away to realize that the "sick" diagnosis is pervasive for Halloween, but not in the way you mean it.
I hope Spooky pulls it out and makes it better with new code. Unfortunately, the layout is what it is and can't be fixed. Those ball return risers are a huge waste of BoM they could have used to make the lighting look less cheap or any number of other improvements that made the game measurably better.
I really am rooting for them to succeed because more competition in the market is better pinball over time.

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Spooky!!

Quoted from crujones4life:

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Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

The market does not make a great game. Not everything in life is about money. I could care less what the market bears at the moment. Mine is bolted for the foreseeable future.

Quoted from stretch2:

Isn’t this supposed to be a Next Stern thread?

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

Yeah? Why do you suppose they stopped producing Stranger things and Iron Maiden? License just run out?

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

TMNT is one of the most underrated Spike 2 games. Love mine and it absolutely KILLS on location.

Quoted from Vecna:

Godzilla was once a Spooky title. Not really.
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Quoted from PinMonk:

Halloween is currently not a great game (code OR design) by any objective measure. I know some people are really into it, and that's great, but you only have to glance at the marketplace (right now, even) and see people taking huge losses on their deposits or just outright walking away to realize that the "sick" diagnosis is pervasive for Halloween, but not in the way you mean it.
I hope Spooky pulls it out and makes it better with new code. Unfortunately, the layout is what it is and can't be fixed. Those ball return risers are a huge waste of BoM they could have used to make the lighting look less cheap or any number of other improvements that made the game measurably better.[quoted image]

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Our family is so wishing Stern does Scooby Do…

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

Scooby Do is the next Spoo#y game.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Stern homepins are priced around the $4.5k mark and have about the same amount of accouterments as Spooky pins do

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

The market does not make a great game. Not everything in life is about money.

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

I could (sic) care less what the market bears at the moment.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

If true, its so unfortunate, but no ill will toward Spooky. Think they’d do better by just becoming an alternative choice to more affordable gaming, if they priced themselves under a pro, they’d have business coming out the ears. Since feature wise their machines are sparsely appointed in the lesser category of pinball, which is their market place. Stern homepins are priced around the $4.5k mark and have about the same amount of accouterments as Spooky pins do. So if Spooky priced their offerings somewhere in that realm or even a little more they’d find their niche for success.

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

I can hardly bear to respond to all of the inaccurate points of your last message but I WIL say that my two spooky games have more in them than my 6 Stern spike 2’s combined. HWN itself is about as stacked as JJP Pirates.

Quoted from Vecna:

My buddy has Ultraman and Jurassic Park home pin and JP pin gets a lot more plays and smiles during cocktails hours.

Quoted from Mattyk:

Have we had enough of this already

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

HWN itself is about as stacked as JJP Pirates. That being said…

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

I WILL say that my two spooky games (ACNC and HWN) have more in them than my 6 Stern spike 2’s combined. HWN itself is about as stacked as JJP Pirates.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Stern’s JP Home Pin created by Jack Danger is a superior game in every way over HWN/UM. My niece has one and love it. Certainly has more exciting mech with the T-Rex mech. What does HWN/UM have in the way of mechs? None, so the comparison with Spooky pins being in that pricing realm is realistic. It’s not meant as a put down of Spooky, a reality of their business model. If they would only realize that and then capitalize on it, they’d have a more successful company and the market would bear that out for them. Right now, the market says overwhelmingly that they are way over priced for what they’re offering.

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

You have very obviously not played (or seen) these games apparently LMFAO

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

I can hardly bear to respond to all of the inaccurate points of your last message but I WIL say that my two spooky games have more in them than my 6 Stern spike 2’s combined. HWN itself is about as stacked as JJP Pirates.

Quoted from PinMonk:

See this is where you get in trouble. You can't pull subjective statements out of your butt and call them fact. Just a quick COIL COUNT will tell you that Halloween has ~17 coils and a shaker and PotC has ~39 coils and a shaker. That's right, Halloween has less than HALF the coils of a jjPotC, which any rational person knows is not the sign of a "feature stacked" game.
You like Halloween. But it's less-than in the current market, and will far undersell the next Stern. <---see? Back on topic!

Quoted from Thunderbird:

If true, its so unfortunate, but no ill will toward Spooky. Think they’d do better by just becoming an alternative choice to more affordable gaming, if they priced themselves under a pro, they’d have business coming out the ears. Since feature wise their machines are sparsely appointed in the lesser category of pinball, which is their market place. Stern homepins are priced around the $4.5k mark and have about the same amount of accouterments as Spooky pins do. So if Spooky priced their offerings somewhere in that realm or even a little more they’d find their niche for success.

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

Scooby Do is the next Spoo#y game.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

If true, its so unfortunate, but no ill will toward Spooky. Think they’d do better by just becoming an alternative choice to more affordable gaming, if they priced themselves under a pro, they’d have business coming out the ears. Since feature wise their machines are sparsely appointed in the lesser category of pinball, which is their market place. Stern homepins are priced around the $4.5k mark and have about the same amount of accouterments as Spooky pins do. So if Spooky priced their offerings somewhere in that realm or even a little more they’d find their niche for success.

Quoted from PinMonk:

The money isn't the POINT. It's a bellwether of sentiment for how much people like/dislike the game. If a LOT of people are willing to walk away from a decent amount of deposit money on their NIB preorder just so they can get out from under a game that they have lost faith in, that's significant. And that's the case is with Halloween and Ultraman, currently.

Nor should you. You like the game, it's bolted down for you, and you're a fan of the IP. The market sentiment is the last thing that should be on your mind.
BUT you have to realize that for everyone else living in the real world with no vested interest in the game, what Spooky delivered is not popular at all, and confidence in it ever being right is waning. THAT is what the marketplace ads with losses all over the place indicates and why you trying to convince non-believers it's amazing rings hollow.

Quoted from Vecna:

My buddy has Ultraman and Jurassic Park home pin and JP pin gets a lot more plays and smiles during cocktails hours.

Quoted from Sugar:

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