I assume Ryan's game would be next?

I know Fix talked a big game about doing at least 2 games a year. Hopefully they have the next game pretty far long

Plus they sold 2000 but make 20 games a week so they are busy for next 2 years

Barry O game next, then Ryan, then another nordman (ww sequel apparently). At least thats what the current rumor mill is saying

It's not supposed to be as the work he did Food Truck that was likely owned by Deeproot and now whoever bought all that stuff (Turner Pinball??). The rumor was that it is a single level game but then again GTF started out as a very simple game and they jammed a bunch of other stuff in there so I guess it could go either way.

It's not. I recall hearing that Barry made a new design at AP before he passed.

AP would have to partner with Turner Pinball to do Food Truck or Yukon Yeti (if that's the Whitewater sequel). There was an interview with Chris Turner on the most recent pinball news and magazine podcast where he said Dennis played the Turner prototype and mentioned wanting to still make that game. So I suppose it's possible (unless he'd be making it with Turner rather than AP).

The EXPO Homebrew contest was a big disappointment. After all the hype, they never picked a winner. We were told that supposably a winner would be picked and that person would be contacted privately so they didn't run into the same issue they did with Ryan (Stern stole the license?). What I do know is that a lot of us spend a lot of $$ to travel out there and see where we stood against each other. I drove out from Tampa and the trip cost me over $3k. I would have still gone either way, but I think there would have been less machines if no contest was announced. The other disappointment was they put us on the back wall when we were told we had a dedicated spot. My spot was next to the ladies room, LOL. Don't get me wrong, not complaining and I would definitely do it again, just adding my 2 cents.

For what it's worth, I loved playing Elf. Amazing theme integration and I loved the lite brite apron.

even if you're doing original IP, the homebrew dream contest always seemed extremely poorly thought out

if someone is able to make a viable design that could be produced, just talk to them...there's so few of those that there doesn't need to be a contest

But there are so many things that have to be done to take a homebrew and make it a viable product, beyond licensing. Hell the best part of homebrewing is not having to think about a BOM or overly worrying about complex-mechanisms/ease-of-manufacturing/reproducibility

I disagree. I have not seen any homebrew mechs or perceived BOMs that fall greatly outside mass production. Other than Mr. Biggs $75 aircraft connectors of course…

Sure there are. The Amigo pins, the modern Pin 2k homebrews, Trashland, and others

They don't even need to do that. Just steal the game... But i'm not gonna go there.

Don't try to hook my games into a pin2k cab... you'll destroy the board and the playfield.
My system is Augmented Reality Pinball (Pinball AR)

And I wasn't aiming for the american dream contest, I make games because I enjoy it. Expect 4 Pinball AR games at expo this year!

Great, you're doing really interesting stuff. I like that you aren't aiming for some contest and just want to make cool stuff.

No way they sold that many. Maybe to distributers, but I doubt it.

Don't believe that either.

Sucks to read the negative impact of the announced contest that wasn't. My take: just another ill-thought-out, near-spur-of-the-moment idea thrown out by the guy in charge because he thinks he can say whatever and have the people doing the work make it happen. Oh, and to have another public thing to distract from the lack of new games and output from AP. Exhibit B would include the virtual tour of AP HQ from last year's expo (instead of releasing GTF as was the plan).

Well i know that pinball companies work years in advance of a game coming out. And it may be in development (like GTF and PF has been said was) for 5 years before news leaks out.

Other people know it too, but seem to think that all of a sudden things should just pop out 12 months later.

A friend texted me saying AP is making a video game license that isn’t Sonic

I’d guess something like Mega Man from Capcom. Seems like that style game could translate to pinball. Lots of iconic music, bosses, a weapon level up system that could be translated to pinball. They should get something Nintendo, but I doubt they did. Mortal Kombat would be another killer license.

Halo would be ok too. It’s a pretty generic space marine theme that’s still popular despite a row of meh games.

And if you’re doing a generic Microsoft owned space marine game, do Doom

The Legend of Zelda often comes up in the "what's next for Stern" thread. But based on how beautiful the Scooby-Doo and Galactic Tank Force pins are, would you rather have Spooky or American be the company to do a Zelda pin?

The Legend of Zelda Movie - what we know so far:
The Zelda film will reportedly be handled by Illumination, who is also the studio behind the current Super Mario Bros Movie.

Do you want it to look like a spooky, play like a stern, cost as much as a jjp, or have the marketing and release or an AP?

I can't figure out what AP and it's leadership are doing. They seem for the most part to have manufacturing down so why not go all in with a major license? I understand the cash requirements upfront are large, but you have to pay to play with the big boys unless they want to continue to trickle along. I would give Ryan a good desirable license and the reigns to design what he wants - Stern has won huge with their 2 new fresh designers.

Whatever it is, it’s being FIXed…

Music pin.
Lady Gaga.

Who is that?

61 days since the last comment and no speculation on the next AP game since #GTF was released. Is this the end - I hope not. Saved room for another AP next to my Houdini but GTF was not going to be it. Someone must have some information or speculation to share … hoping this thread stays alive (or maybe it’s already moved elsewhere - if so let me know).

LOV would have been my personal choice once I saw the GTF reveal, but I’ve got two young pinheads at home so we went with a more family friendly theme in Godzilla for our first NIB purchase (with funds I had been sitting on for two years hoping to be blown away by Nordman’s first game for AP). Still a huge fan - nothing feels as solid as playing an API table. Awesome thread you’ve started here - as always in this hobby - excited for what they’ll come up with next.

So.. a monster killing people is considered family friendly?

There's no killing people in the pin...
And also family friendly in terms of resale value!

So you are saying all the buildings and bridges on fire or blown up have no people dying in them? Got it. Just because you don't see the carnage, doesn't mean people didn't die. Kids can still can connect the dots.

Ok. Do kids also understand LoV had a lot of implicit rape, because vikings??

So there’s Randy Quaid and Ryan McQuaid. Big difference, ...I think? Lol

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I don’t think you need to dive so deep as considering thematic implicit rape to recognize LOV isn’t particularly family friendly - just look at the back glass. Not criticizing the theme or the artwork, both of which I like a lot, particularly the Archer-esque heavy line drawing of the artwork. Just a bit adult themed for my kids and their friends. Definitely a table I’ll look forward to owning at some point though.

Does anyone remember one of the seminars where Fix alluded to GTF being a two-parter? Maybe it was at MGC? IDK but I heard him specifically point out the “Full” title of GTF which is “Galactic Tank Force - Battle for the Moon”. He intentionally made it sound like there would be a sequel or DLC code update that would make the mission continue into other realms.

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DLC doesn’t make sense since the title is on the backglass. I assume he means they’re going to make a sister pin. Not sure if we’ll ever see it though based on the response to GTF thus far. Doubling down could be dangerous.

What are you talking about? It's just a pinball machine, it's not real. I think all machines should have an adult mode. I want the machine to cuss at me a little bit.

My grandpappy was killed by a kaiju. Very offensive game to me /s

I am a Kaiju. Accept my way of life otherwise you’re anti-monster. You offend ME! Lol.

I really hope there's something in the pipeline from Ryan. Not only would I love to see him see some major success after his Spinball efforts (a Sonic themed pin, if ever developed, will be entering my collection, full stop), I would love to see more pinball companies providing some decent competition for Stern.

I just added Hot Wheels to my collection and I really feel like that title is slept on by a ton of people. It's fast, friendly, flowy, and most importantly FUN. The value on it was also stupendous. Now, I don't think it's a great choice if you can only get a single pin in your place as it isn't very deep code or progression wise. However, I feel it is a perfect "companion" pin to something with a bit more complexity like some of the recent Stern releases. HW is kind of like a game straight out of the 90s but with a modern build.

I haven't had a chance to try GTF yet. AP games don't seem to make much inroads in my area so I doubt I'll get to try it without some sort of travel. Hopefully it isn't their last offering though.

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If they are possibly going to produce a game from EXPO, just go back and watch a video to see what homebrew games would require a license. I know you can rule out Sonic and ELF. So what does that leave ? Pokemon, Daikaiju, and Dukes of hazzard