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Damn You Magic The Gathering


By Azmodeus

2 years ago



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    #151 2 years ago

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    #153 2 years ago
    Quoted from Azmodeus:

    I remember opening boxes of revised for sale. Those were the glory days of magic. And I had a full set of legends and Arabians to play with. Really though I liked the art.
    Those days are gone eh.

    I played MTG for a year or so in the mid-90's and I only recall the details of one victory. It was in a tournament. My opponent had full health. I attacked with a Birds of Paradise, which he opted not to block. Then I pumped it up with 1 Giant Growth, 2 Bloodlusts and a Berszerk for the win! His expression was priceless!

    #154 2 years ago
    Quoted from Azmodeus:

    Those days are gone eh.

    has you want my 4 blood lusts too?

    Just OM me your address and I'll send it out

    6 months later
    #155 1 year ago

    Rivals of Ixalan prerelease tonight.

    #156 1 year ago

    Check out Eternal on google. It is great.

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    #157 1 year ago

    If anyone's looking to sell a Magic collection let me know, I'm in the market

    #158 1 year ago

    WaddleJrJr (or anyone else), I have a MASSIVE collection of legacy/vintage stuff that's been sitting in clean, climate controlled storage for years (literally have not played for more than a decade after I had my son). We were going pretty hard core in college, with 2 of my close friends ending up getting their degrees and going out to work for WotC still to this day. I then hit MOTL pretty hard for its first couple years, opting to collect full sets and redeeming them for factory sealed ones (I think I have somewhere near 40 factory sets including complete foil sets!). So I have everything from Power 9, to a complete 40 dual land playset, to a mint Arabians set, to multiple complete sets of everything from Revised to Kamigawa block, binders of signed cards, etc. If anyone is interested in acquiring this massive horde (i.e. like $40K just in high end rares and complete sets alone), send me a PM. Wouldn't be opposed to a deal involving pins either. It needs to go to the right, motivated person.

    #159 1 year ago

    I have played since 1995. First cards were a Fourth Edition starter "deck." Have gone off and on actually playing/buying cards (I'm more likely to play when others around me play, of course). Probably haven't bought any new since Eldritch Moon set. But I have never sold out. Did get rid of a bunch of junk cards but still have my decks.

    #160 1 year ago

    I've always wanted to get into Magic the gathering but just didn't know where to start. Harder still as I don't know anyone who plays. Perhaps I could tempt my gf into getting involved with me

    #161 1 year ago
    Quoted from Huggers:

    I've always wanted to get into Magic the gathering but just didn't know where to start. Harder still as I don't know anyone who plays. Perhaps I could tempt my gf into getting involved with me

    M:TG is VERY popular in the UK. Check with a local comic book or gaming shop. If they don't themselves carry the product or hold tournaments they know who will. There are a number of instructional tutorial videos online that teach you how to play, and break down the cards, their functions, and the process of game play. It probably took me a few days to get going back in the 90s and that was before anyone really understood the game, and once you're hooked, the game is AMAZING as both a casual play, a serious tournament play and a collectible. Many different formats that allow a new person to compete and have fun, just as someone with an unlimited wallet.

    #162 1 year ago
    Quoted from Huggers:

    I've always wanted to get into Magic the gathering but just didn't know where to start. Harder still as I don't know anyone who plays. Perhaps I could tempt my gf into getting involved with me

    There is a store locator on the Wizards site. Appears there are quite a few places near Bridport UK.

    http://locator.wizards.com/#brand=magic&a=search&p=Bridport,+United+Kingdom&c=50.7335769,-2.7583009999999604&massmarket=no

    #163 1 year ago

    The best thing about MTG is that it can be a fun kitchen table game with friends, and on a competitive level, the amount of strategic thinking (stack, priority, sequencing, etc) is nuts.

    #164 1 year ago

    Just play EDH/Commander if you want the stack to be dumb.

    Eye of the Storm + Possibility Storm

    #165 1 year ago
    Quoted from maffewl:

    The best thing about MTG is that it can be a fun kitchen table game with friends

    My favorite way to play when I can find players.

    Standard competitive gets a bit boring with everyone playing basically the same two or three deck types because it's what wins.

    #166 1 year ago

    I've been considering selling some of my higher dollar cards to help fund a TNA, but I haven't been able to pull the trigger. Just cant bring myself to do it for some reason.

    #167 1 year ago

    I was a long time paper player but I don’t have time or people to play with anymore so I’ve been playing Pauper on Magic Online and that’s been pretty awesome. Decks can be had for $20-50 and it’s a balanced format.

    #168 1 year ago

    My 13 year old came home with some MTG from school this past week, some friends introduced him. I then got to bust out my old box of cards from ~95 and show him how this game is played .

    I literally have not played any MTG in over 20 years. I knew the cards might have value so I never ditched them and they've just moved around with me.

    No idea if any of my cards today are worth anything, but all this week my 2 sons (we got my 9 year old into it as well) have been sitting around the table playing before bed time. Just like my old Star Wars toys, they have more value as "toys" to be played with than to be sitting unopened in a box.

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    #169 1 year ago

    Like a lot of you I started playing Magic when Unlimited came out. Had tons of dual lands, power 9, all that jazz.

    When I graduated college and got married, I ended up selling tons of it to pay off debt and start a life.

    Fast forward to early 2000's when Time Spiral and Mirrodin blocks came out. I bought several boxes and got back into it with some friends.
    Continued playing for several years up until Innistrad. Then it seemed like a bubble hit Magic again, prices started doubling, and all of a sudden I had some cards that were Modern legal that were worth a *ton* more than I paid.

    So I cashed out most of my Modern decks and staples and bought like 3 pinball machines. LOL. Magic bought my Demo Man. Magic bought my Doctor Who. Magic bought my Earthshaker. Plus various parts and arcade related stuff (like my Robotron).

    I continue to sell off more and more on eBay and tcgplayer buylists in order to fund additional pinball purchases.
    Getting near the end of the cards that sell for money, so I can't do this much anymore, but it was great to convert cards into pinball machines.

    Magic is a great game and fun to play with friends. And it definitely fed my "gotta collect everything" itch. But pinball is more rewarding and fun.

    Just some thoughts.

    Thanks,
    Steven

    #170 1 year ago
    Quoted from damadczar:

    So I cashed out most of my Modern decks and staples and bought like 3 pinball machines. LOL. Magic bought my Demo Man. Magic bought my Doctor Who. Magic bought my Earthshaker. Plus various parts and arcade related stuff (like my Robotron).

    I continue to sell off more and more on eBay and tcgplayer buylists in order to fund additional pinball purchases.

    Wow. I'm aware of the Black Lotus, but didn't realize there were so many valuable cards.

    #171 1 year ago

    Oh yeh, there is some MAJOR MAJOR $$$ in the early run stuff between Alpha and Revised, with several dozen "staple" cards in the decades following also fetching high dollar. The number of cards worth even $50 or more has probably gone up 10-fold in the past few years. What I love is that cards from the mid 90s that absolutely sucked being suddenly turned into a gold mine when some bizarre card comes out on a new set and someone makes the connection to something 10,000 cards ago that function together. That's what makes this game so great is that just when you can't possibly think there are any new ideas for mechanics or something, they create an interaction that brings new fresh life to older sets.

    #172 1 year ago
    Quoted from wxforecaster:

    Oh yeh, there is some MAJOR MAJOR $$$ in the early run stuff between Alpha and Revised, with several dozen "staple" cards in the decades following also fetching high dollar. The number of cards worth even $50 or more has probably gone up 10-fold in the past few years. What I love is that cards from the mid 90s that absolutely sucked being suddenly turned into a gold mine when some bizarre card comes out on a new set and someone makes the connection to something 10,000 cards ago that function together. That's what makes this game so great is that just when you can't possibly think there are any new ideas for mechanics or something, they create an interaction that brings new fresh life to older sets.

    Yeah, it's really crazy. And even though I've sold off the current Magic staples, I still follow the scene. I still have tons of cards that aren't worth anything yet... but who knows, maybe someday they will?

    That was the best part of Magic to me. Looking through all the card interactions and coming up with new decks with some new combo as a theme. I still kinda miss it.

    #173 1 year ago
    Quoted from frolic:

    Wow. I'm aware of the Black Lotus, but didn't realize there were so many valuable cards.

    Yeah, it's pretty insane.

    That a look at this site that tracks the metagame and prices for completed decks: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper

    It costs something between $700-$1000 to buy a competitive Modern legal deck if you wanted to just buy it outright.

    And many of those staple cards don't translate between decks, so you need 3-5 of them (completed decks) before you have a good enough collection of staples to be able to put together anything you want. Gets pricy quickly.

    #174 1 year ago

    I have a set of UNO cards from way back in the 80’s, what do you think that’s worth?

    #176 1 year ago

    You can play MTG for free with Cockatrice or XMage.

    #177 1 year ago

    Wizards are working on a new online version. Join the beta.
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena

    #178 1 year ago
    Quoted from DngrWillRobinson:

    I have a set of UNO cards from way back in the 80’s, what do you think that’s worth?

    I'll trade a Draw Four for a MTG Storm Crow.

    2 weeks later
    #179 1 year ago
    Quoted from wxforecaster:

    M:TG is VERY popular in the UK. Check with a local comic book or gaming shop. If they don't themselves carry the product or hold tournaments they know who will. There are a number of instructional tutorial videos online that teach you how to play, and break down the cards, their functions, and the process of game play. It probably took me a few days to get going back in the 90s and that was before anyone really understood the game, and once you're hooked, the game is AMAZING as both a casual play, a serious tournament play and a collectible. Many different formats that allow a new person to compete and have fun, just as someone with an unlimited wallet.

    So I watched a good few vids, played a load on my phone and have got the basics down. I still get thrown off with certain cards and exactly how to implement their effects but I've got the hang of the game as a whole. Super addictive!

    Quoted from maffewl:

    There is a store locator on the Wizards site. Appears there are quite a few places near Bridport UK.
    http://locator.wizards.com/#brand=magic&a=search&p=Bridport,+United+Kingdom&c=50.7335769,-2.7583009999999604&massmarket=no

    This is awesome, I'm headed to a store close to me today to have a chat with them about it all

    1 month later
    #180 1 year ago

    I just moved to Fullerton California and now I have a pretty nice store close to me. I need to build out a few decks and Also I am going to get them playing Cthulhu wars. But the gaming community is pretty robust here in Fullerton. We have cal state Fullerton. The store is nice. I can tell the players are fun here.

    1 month later
    #181 1 year ago

    Anyone been watching prices lately? People are treating cards like investments now. Buying up all the available supply to push prices through the roof, etc. It's crazy.

    Every time I look at prices and think about selling, I just can't bring myself to do it. The number of $400, $600, $1,000 cards just keep going up and up.

    Alpha Lotuses are literally going for $25k. Wtf?

    #182 1 year ago

    Some of us a while back realized that with a small supply and a reserve list, we could buy out reserve list cards that were playable and create artificial price spikes, it's the new junk bond.

    I'm getting out, think its going to ruin the game.

    #183 1 year ago
    Quoted from Ns2973:

    Some of us a while back realized that with a small supply and a reserve list, we could buy out reserve list cards that were playable and create artificial price spikes, it's the new junk bond.
    I'm getting out, think its going to ruin the game.

    So you're one of them, huh? well it's working, but I think you're right. Sure seems like now is the time to sell, if you can get people to pay those prices.

    #184 1 year ago

    I haven't bought out any cards but I've bought a handful of reserve list cards recently just so I can make sure I have copies to play with before they do get bought out and the prices spike. It's very unfortunate and the speed at which it keeps happening is insane. Definitely will put pressure on Wizards to do something about it.

    #185 1 year ago

    Originally we thought we could force wotc fo get rid of the reserve list. Still think it may happen but the prices stuck.

    #186 1 year ago
    Quoted from Ns2973:

    Originally we thought we could force wotc fo get rid of the reserve list. Still think it may happen but the prices stuck.

    Really? Why would you even want that? Things like Moxen are one of the best aspects of the game. You get rid of the reserved list and you kill the collectability of the entire game. It kills me how much crap they've been reprinting lately with all these stupid master sets.

    #187 1 year ago

    Because I like to play, and my favorite formats are dying because wotc cant monetize a card set they will never print again.

    Legacy and vintage used to be amazing, but with such a high barrier to entry, modern and standard are the only supported formats. Which is magic on training wheels.

    #188 1 year ago

    Pfffft.

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    if others wish to learn more about Schmongelvoos, you'll need Kelly le Brock and a bra on ur head when ordering.

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    #189 1 year ago
    Quoted from Ns2973:

    Because I like to play, and my favorite formats are dying because wotc cant monetize a card set they will never print again.
    Legacy and vintage used to be amazing, but with such a high barrier to entry, modern and standard are the only supported formats.

    As someone who owns a game store this is a complaint I hear very often. Players want to play legacy and vintage but simply can't afford it. Even Commander is getting very expensive, or is just forcing players to choose to not use certain cards in their Commander decks, even those cards are perfect fits.

    #190 1 year ago

    The only way wizards will support the best formats is if they can make money, that's why the reserve list needs to die.

    #191 1 year ago

    As soon as they reprint the reserve list cards, legacy just becomes Modern again. The people buying up the reserved list cards are just killing the format even more, by making it absurdly expensive instead of just really expensive.

    That said, I do understand your point. I've never owned any power or anything like that, and I was priced out of Legacy 10-15 years ago when I was last playing too. It is also my favorite format (since it was Type 1.5).

    So, how do you satisfy the collector and the player? It is still a CCG, after all.

    Edit: Many of those cards are also already restricted, so that'd be a little weird too.

    #192 1 year ago

    You reprint with new borders. Guys like me that have all the cards already object to the appearance and the collectors will always want first printings.

    Legacy wint become modern. It's the most diverse format in the game and playing it is excellent. Letting more people play more decks helps formats.

    1.5 was my favorite as well, but letting me play workshops in a format without fast management was unfair.

    #193 1 year ago

    I worded this part very poorly... what I meant was reprinting would make the reserved list cards modern eligible, wouldn't it? Unless they did some special set that's not modern eligible? I haven't kept up enough to know if those Master sets are eligible or not.

    #194 1 year ago

    They make a ton of non standard and modern legal sets now. Conspiracy is one of them that is actually quite cool.

    #195 1 year ago

    I think reprinting a special edition set, that was tinted with a special back, sharp corners, and platinum border would be an easy way to circumvent the "no reprint" promise. And then start a new block format called "Old School". Only physical cards from the Old School set are eligible. Remove the Ante cards as needed.

    The Special Edition set could include each card from Beta cards, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, Dark and Fallen Empire.
    Sell an "Old School" Starter Deck (all cards random): 6 Rares (one from each set), 12 Uncommon (at least one from each set), 24 commons (at least one from each set), 18 basic lands -- $30
    Sell an "Old School" Super Booster: 2 Rares, 4 Uncommon, 8 common, 2 lands -- $10
    Sell "Old School" complete sets - $300

    If WOTC did this, I'd buy the cards just to be able to play them.

    Marcus

    #196 1 year ago
    Quoted from Xerico:

    I think reprinting a special edition set, that was tinted with a special back, sharp corners, and platinum border would be an easy way to circumvent the "no reprint" promise. And then start a new block format called "Old School". Only physical cards from the Old School set are eligible. Remove the Ante cards as needed.
    The Special Edition set could include each card from Beta cards, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, Dark and Fallen Empire.
    Sell an "Old School" Starter Deck (all cards random): 6 Rares (one from each set), 12 Uncommon (at least one from each set), 24 commons (at least one from each set), 18 basic lands -- $30
    Sell an "Old School" Super Booster: 2 Rares, 4 Uncommon, 8 common, 2 lands -- $10
    Sell "Old School" complete sets - $300
    If WOTC did this, I'd buy the cards just to be able to play them.
    Marcus

    They kind of did that years ago with the collectors edition. They are not tournament legal, though. Funny thing about that - the power cards still go for hundreds of dollars each. Again, we're talking square corners, and gold border on the back with collectors (or international) edition printed on the back. Crazy.

    https://www.mtgstocks.com/sets/270

    #197 1 year ago
    Quoted from damadczar:

    Yeah, it's pretty insane.
    That a look at this site that tracks the metagame and prices for completed decks: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper
    It costs something between $700-$1000 to buy a competitive Modern legal deck if you wanted to just buy it outright.
    And many of those staple cards don't translate between decks, so you need 3-5 of them (completed decks) before you have a good enough collection of staples to be able to put together anything you want. Gets pricy quickly.

    OK, I have to thank you guys in this thread. I am like many of you, in that I started playing right around the time of revised and legends. I played off and on for several years before quitting 10-15 years ago and have several boxes of cards sitting in my garage. I checked out this mtggoldfish link and could not believe what I saw. I recognized several cards I have multiples of that I assumed were worthless but apparently are worth up to several hundred dollars a card. I just went through a few of my old decks and put together an initial stack of around 100 of the higher value cards. Based on that site, those cards would retail for $7K. This is insane. Even if I sell them for half that price, this is a crazy windfall. I imagine I feel like people of my dad's generation must have felt when they realized that worthless shoebox full of Hank Aaron cards was actually worth something. Time to figure out how to sell on ebay....

    #198 1 year ago
    Quoted from wonderpuddle:

    OK, I have to thank you guys in this thread. I am like many of you, in that I started playing right around the time of revised and legends. I played off and on for several years before quitting 10-15 years ago and have several boxes of cards sitting in my garage. I checked out this mtggoldfish link and could not believe what I saw. I recognized several cards I have multiples of that I assumed were worthless but apparently are worth up to several hundred dollars a card. I just went through a few of my old decks and put together an initial stack of around 100 of the higher value cards. Based on that site, those cards would retail for $7K. This is insane. Even if I sell them for half that price, this is a crazy windfall. I imagine I feel like people of my dad's generation must have felt when they realized that worthless shoebox full of Hank Aaron cards was actually worth something. Time to figure out how to sell on ebay....

    Exactly... I've always known I had a handful of good cards, and I've checked on prices over the years, but this last time I looked, I was gobsmacked. And it's only been like a year since I last looked.

    As mentioned above, we have the reserved list buy out guys to thank for that.

    #199 1 year ago
    Quoted from wonderpuddle:

    OK, I have to thank you guys in this thread. I am like many of you, in that I started playing right around the time of revised and legends. I played off and on for several years before quitting 10-15 years ago and have several boxes of cards sitting in my garage. I checked out this mtggoldfish link and could not believe what I saw. I recognized several cards I have multiples of that I assumed were worthless but apparently are worth up to several hundred dollars a card. I just went through a few of my old decks and put together an initial stack of around 100 of the higher value cards. Based on that site, those cards would retail for $7K. This is insane. Even if I sell them for half that price, this is a crazy windfall. I imagine I feel like people of my dad's generation must have felt when they realized that worthless shoebox full of Hank Aaron cards was actually worth something. Time to figure out how to sell on ebay....

    i think they should make unlimited available again, as a reprint set playable.
    It sure would be fun to open.

    #200 1 year ago
    Quoted from Xerico:

    I think reprinting a special edition set, that was tinted with a special back, sharp corners, and platinum border would be an easy way to circumvent the "no reprint" promise. And then start a new block format called "Old School". Only physical cards from the Old School set are eligible. Remove the Ante cards as needed.
    The Special Edition set could include each card from Beta cards, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, Dark and Fallen Empire.
    Sell an "Old School" Starter Deck (all cards random): 6 Rares (one from each set), 12 Uncommon (at least one from each set), 24 commons (at least one from each set), 18 basic lands -- $30
    Sell an "Old School" Super Booster: 2 Rares, 4 Uncommon, 8 common, 2 lands -- $10
    Sell "Old School" complete sets - $300
    If WOTC did this, I'd buy the cards just to be able to play them.
    Marcus

    There actually is a format called old school. Its caused the prices of even less powerful cards to skyrocket. But it's the best magic you can play

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