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The “I hate EVs” thread

By paynemic

2 years ago


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“The “I hate EVs” thread”

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#482 2 years ago

Geez look at the fuel prices!. How did that happen!?

Gotta have an "EV" then ... ?

Or, all they'd have to do is undo the backwards PC "green new deal" nonsense, and start producing the barrels again...

Voila! ... no need for EVs anymore!?

Of course there will always be a portion of folk whom won't get it until the blaring blatant obvious is thrown on their windscreen or whatever. Point will come whatever way, they'll have no choice but to work it all out.

I wouldn't own a "commercial" EV. That s#it BURNS. To the ground, and things surrounding. Fast! :3

Nobody ever gonna get me into any of that cr@p! . Might be useful for a deathwish, or to cook a barbie?. ha ha

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#511 2 years ago
Quoted from jeffro01:

What a completely ignorant and quite frankly, STUPID, thing to post. Do you really believe gas cars don't catch fire? Please...
It's amazing to me the kind of FUD that still exists out there...
Jeff

Omg Please!? Lol

Wake Up!!!

Only in hollywood for some, hey.

Why not have a propper look into the real state of the world before the loose and clearly uninformed comments. Would have thought that even with blinkers on, the obvious problems would be noticable when right in front of the eyes. Look up and live! :3

Can you come up with an argument that makes sense please?. Plastic and masses of chemical concoctions burn way better than mostly metal and some fuel. Also way more toxic with the batteries. Try to have a little logic and some brains in gear for posting. Avoid the emotion Lol

Yep cognative dissonance is a bugger. Wish anyone with it all the best. Friends can help, but really it is up to themselves to reliably process what is going on. It realy is not a fine line between "skepticism" and "denial".

Watch Scooby Doos "Zombie Island" for a great lesson in this!. Might help wake up.

Peace brothers!

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#513 2 years ago
Quoted from jeffro01:

Please seek immediate medical attention... Yikes...
Jeff

Pmsl

Yep, EV's suck nads and explode. Just like petrol cars do.

If one believes that, get a diesel ride then?

When the sleeper falls out of the tipping bed, usually they wake up when they hit the floor. Some don't of course.

Maybe the noxious bulls#it gas rendered them too unconscious?. :3

Some are sleepwalking. Others are sleepdriving.

LGB! is just sleeping.

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#516 2 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Whoa. Dude. Still can’t tell what point you’re trying to make at all.

False economy, envionmental destruction, and poor safety. Pretty straightforward.

#521 2 years ago

Why are fuel prices skyrocketing?

#523 2 years ago

I don't think it is -just- the oil companies.

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#535 2 years ago
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

I really have no dog in this fight, I just like cars - both ICE & EV BUT You are 100% wrong - get off your soap box
I witnessed this gas car go up very quickly and explode several times.
Fire dept. had a very difficult time extinguishing the fire, every time they got it out it reignited
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Whenever someone describes a person as "100% wrong", it's a fair indication that someone is actually being extreme and a bit unbalanced, in any case. Incredible.

I guess some people display excessive sensitivity towards their touchy subjects, sometimes. Or when there's cognitive dissonance at play?. :3

Anyway, if this isn't a "soapbox" these days, then what is?

#537 2 years ago
Quoted from v8torino:

Because the oil used to produce gasoline for "Real Cars" is now being used to fuel the electrical plants to make electricity to charge these "toy cars" and everything this current U S Administration puts their hands on is now skyrocketing.
Simple economics - More Govt = Less for you and me in how far our $$ go !! OK went a little political - Shame on me IBTL

Can't the US produce it's own fuel?

I know we can't here. Most refineries closed down by govt. Fuel skyrocketing here too.

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#578 2 years ago
Quoted from Ribs:

The US could have a state-owned oil company that could be ordered to invest in output rather than stock buybacks, dividends, and debt retirement, many countries do this, but reasonable ideas like this have been demonized as end-of-the-world socialism and communism by the very same people who benefit the most from ensuring short-term corporate profits at the cost of essential societal services. We should finally stop listening to those individuals about everything instead of voting for them more than ever.

Totally agree.

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#640 2 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Yes. Nothing in America is going up in price right now. Weird it’s just EVs.

Fuel?

#644 2 years ago
Quoted from bob_e:

The weird part is the tezla had two price increases in two days and that is acceptable...
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Yeah it's pegged to the gas price Lol

"Green New Deal"

#653 2 years ago

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Same story here locally though really

#655 2 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

we've had 2 years of a global pandemic devastating supply chains and now we're inching towards WW3 with one of the world's major oil + mineral suppliers, so I don't have much patience for people fretting about inflation as if it's some kind of nefarious decision made by CEOs and heads of state.

On the Keystone XL pipeline ... this is aging well!?

#657 2 years ago

Well, people not caring is a part of the problem too, really.

Do you care about fuel/goods prices? ... or maybe not?

Yes, caring is hard work. Especially with all the tidal wave of bulls#it we are subjected to. It's much simpler when it makes sense. But I can get why people feel like they couldn't be bothered. I couldn't, for a bit too long maybe.

If we knew, we may well have been more bothered?. Paying attention. Don't know what we don't know. Until we know.

#664 2 years ago

It isn't EV's that are the problem per se. It is where they get and store their power that makes no sense. Ditch the mass storage thing.

The missing pieces will hopefully be revealed sometime soon.

Also the inherent efficiency capabilities of water/steam?... and "lighter than air" travel?. Both suppressed.

Both of these also suspiciously sunk with the Titanic and Hindenburg. Both interestingly called "ships" as well. What about electric boats and aircraft?

Oil oligarchy and banks killing cheap air travel and persons of interest:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RnwZXhMCDwwL/

Oil oligarchy and banks killing cheap or even free power, and persons of interest:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jWbFAY6d91WR/

Now we have promotion for volatile chemical pollution in lithium batteries and all their new complex contamination, source, and toxicity problems. For no good reason.

It is control, deceptively packaged as convenience and "common goodness" as well, like many other dodgy things.

#690 2 years ago
Quoted from unclerudy:

If you actually read the article, and what it was saying, it was inferring that electric planes are not realistic.
"The first thing to note is that long-haul flights by large aircraft are not going to become fully electric any time soon. Certainly not within the next 50 years – and the jury’s out as to whether that will even happen this century. The reason is energy density."
"To keep its current range, the plane would need batteries weighing 30 times more than its current fuel intake, meaning it would never get off the ground – Duncan Walker"
"Engineers are currently trying to build a 180-seat fully electric jet that can fly for around 500km. The budget airline EasyJet has partnered with the aviation start-up Wright Electric to design and develop such a prototype plane that, if successful, could enter commercial service as early as 2030. Its travel routes would be limited – Paris to London for instance, not much further"
"Flying fully electric 180-seater aircraft commercially by 2030 is “very ambitious”, says Robert Thomson, a partner at Roland Berger. The more sober view is that by 2030 we will more likely see hybrid electric aircraft being rolled out. In these planes, propulsion is provided by batteries and electric motors alongside traditional combustion systems. “A 50-seater aircraft would become viable as a hybrid, maybe 2030, late 2020s – I think that’s the sort of timescale which is plausible,” says Thomson."
"One of the most closely-watched hybrid aircraft experiments of recent years was the E-Fan X, a joint project between Airbus, Siemens and Rolls-Royce. The concept for the plane featured a 100-seat BAE 146 aircraft that was to be modified so that one of its four engines would be powered by a 2 megawatt motor – that’s enough juice to power roughly 2,000 homes. The plan was to perform a test flight with the aircraft this year but the project was suddenly canned in April."
“You kind of go, ‘Ah, actually, this is going to be a lot more challenging than we thought’,”
None of those things that I quoted are positive, and give no realistic development of actual electric planes. And saying that we need to start somewhere doesn't mean that there is a realistic finish to what you want.

Bring back the deridgables. Cheapest most efficient air travel ever devised. Which is a major part of the reason that this "old technology" (which is superior) was taken away by virtue of an "accident". Money.

#691 2 years ago

Yeah, mate actually says in the first line which you quoted "... AND high tech gas powered vehicles". I guess some closed minded people will only read what they want to read. No wonder we are where we are.

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#727 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballizfun:

But those won't do squat to a lithium fire.

Yep, makes it worse :3

#736 2 years ago

Oh wow really? Lol

"Lets ask Google!?" ... haven't the lemmings seen where google and big media takes you after the death jabasaurus roll out and lies??

A walk down the yellow brick road in wonderland is where google etc. takes you Lol

Here's a great idea, why not "confirm" that with YT and Wikipedia!! PMSL

"That information isn't real!! . It has not been verified by scienticians!"

#769 2 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

But what is the risk of real pinball vs virtual pinball starting the garage on fire?

Because EV's are like Virtual Cars!?

RotfL Ha ha

Love it!

#773 2 years ago

Instead of batteries, might as well just chuck a compact "Lifter" in there!

A Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (Breeder) ... (LFTR) also can consume radioactive waste to nothing, as the wasted 90% or so of energy is extracted from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_fluoride_thorium_reactor

Reminds me of BTTF3 with the MrFusion on the back of the DeLorean!?

#774 2 years ago

Electricity!!

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#789 2 years ago

Why is it people have to keep beating up on the poor innocent EV industry. It's here to help you know!

#793 2 years ago
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

Everybody picks their battles and then searches for info to support it

Exactly what you're doing my friend. Putting aside that which defies our pre-existing "learning". There's a term for that.

While on the other hand others might attempt some critical thinking, rather than having nan doing their thinking for them.

Besides I do agree with plenty that Eelon is doing. Just that one shouldn't judge books by the cover so often.

Twitter's going to get fun!

#804 2 years ago

The wonderful myth is that internal combustion engines need to run on petrochemicals or oil. :3

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fcvLmFbmaooL/

#805 2 years ago

Or just have your EV run off one of these. Problem solved!

Go on. Ask why Tesla doesn't use it, nor anyone else. The answers are kinda obvious... and also addressed during the presentation.

#807 2 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

We should all be using perpetual motion machines!!

The whole point is that there is Leftover, to Utilise.

#833 2 years ago
Quoted from bob_e:

Note A Flame Thrower from Elon's The boring Company
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J: "Are you going to do another run?"

E: "No."

J: "No?. That's it?"

E: "Yes."

Guy got a better concept of "LE" than some pinball companies.

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#923 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballizfun:

Most of the hate seems to stem from the pro-ev crowd telling the not yet-ev crowd that EVs are perfect for everyone now.

Yeah the Green New Deal baby!

Go woke or go broke!?

Actually with that plan everyone will be broke anyway including woke Lol

#934 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Vehicles aside, we are not close to practical fusion at all as they report the plasma efficiency and not the actual net output efficiency which is far less! As stated millions of times, "it's still 30 years off". Same thing they said when I did a speech on it in college back in 85. We literally need several miracles yet to achieve it! Also, read this...
https://thebulletin.org/2017/04/fusion-reactors-not-what-theyre-cracked-up-to-be/
Some highlights...
- Tritium fuel cannot be fully replenished.
- Huge parasitic power consumption.
- Radiation damage and radioactive waste.
- Nuclear weapons proliferation.
- Additional disadvantages shared with fission reactors.

People keep letting their attention be steered in the bad direction. That list is only relevant regarding old hat thinking and technology.

Thorium is a relatively common element. LFT Reactors have been around for decades now, but big money systems keep burying it just like anything else that is truly efficient and clean (can't make much ongoing money).

The most ludicrous stupidity of the current nuclear power system is the use of solid fuels. LFTR uses liquid principle and requires no pressurised water or containment vessel, and also can reduce (extract) old hat radioactive "waste" (+90% of the energy) to virtually nothing. All the answers have been around for a long time, just that the globalists money and broad contamination agenda is geared to stop it.

Don't take my word for it, assess for yourself.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1qlRntHhhHDU/

Put it another way. If people want to pretend it isn't real... the chinese are already building them, while the west keeps it's head in the sand, everyone can just buy them from over there in a few years time rather than produce them independently, I guess. :3

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#937 1 year ago

Funny in some ways watching salt flow over peoples untennable belief in "lame stream" brainfog narrative concocted BS Pmsl

Discernment, logic, and critical thinking. Not for everyone, obviously. So it's sad to watch in some ways too. :3

More to go. Much much more.

#938 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

You nailed it my friend!!
It's a shame so few people understand this! And Thorium reactors are a fascinating technology that needs more R&D!! It could even solve our energy problem for good. How many people even know what it is? You can blame the fossil fuel cartel!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power

https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2344-5-ugly-realities-wikipedia-i-learned-as-admin.html

Wikidpaedia is shockingly biased, and ethically corrupt. Unless you ask wikidpaedia, or a ministry of truth fakt checker, obviously. :-

#943 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

Do you think Elon will buy it like Twitter?

Might be better if he bought this place. Needs it Lol

#947 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

With Natural Gas who needs electric ???
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Fuel would be much more abundant if it ran on Hot Air

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#957 1 year ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

What’s the scenario in which self-driving cars wouldn’t greatly reduce accidents? I’m not saying computers will ever be perfect, but they don’t need to be very good at all to drive more safely than the average human.

Perfect? . Selective?

What if, "computer says no!" ? ... or computer decides your social credit score means you need to be 'eliminated' for some *unmentioned*ical reason or whatever else we didn't think of? ... :3

Of course I know that can never happen, and is impossible.

... right?

#966 1 year ago
Quoted from Ribs:

What if a computer said "no" to the gas leak in your house?

What if a computer said "no" to your life support system?.

#991 1 year ago

Imagine a backdoor or virus that made go=stop and stop=go ... :3

#1050 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

don't mind Paynemic, All he does is tell us how fast his tezzzla is of the line. and no tickets in 5 years
tezzzla is brought to you by the models S, X, and Y.... sounds like Sesame Street.
Sorry if I don't drink his Kool-aid
BTW Ford stopped using letters in 1932 with the end of the Model A which replaced the Model T

Ford's '70s models in Australia included XY , XA , XB , XC , XD ? ... :3

Fairlaines included ZF, ZG, ZH, ZJ etc. etc.

That's the Australian alphabet though of course Lol

#1080 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

I was refering to the US market...
But Ford has added letters like GT, GTA and LTD to some of their car lines.

I got that mate, just raising awareness an having a laugh!

#1086 1 year ago

Fake news on pinside as usual Lol

Not a whole lot of independent thought

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#1308 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

U.S. agency asks Tesla for information on Canadian fire incident
By Reuters
— 7:15 PM ET 05/26/2022
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said on Thursday it has asked Tesla Inc (TSLA.NaE) for information about a recent 2021 Tesla Model U fire in Vancouver, British Columbia, in which a driver reported struggling to exit.
The NHTSA told Reuters the agency "is aware of the incident and has reached out to the manufacturer for information."
Electrek posted a video of the incident in which the owner said he received an error notification and then saw smoke. The driver said that to get out he "had to smash the window. ... I kicked through the window because everything stops. The power didn't work. The door didn't open. The windows didn't go down."
Tesla did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
(Reporting by David Shepardson in Washington and Hyunjoo Jin; Editing by Leslie Adler)
Trapped inside because the doors won't open, OMG !!!

Awww c'mon man! .... you're posting like a 'conspiracy theorist' putting out all this 'made up' internets fake news!

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#1309 1 year ago
Quoted from MtnFrost:

And the only issue we are talking about is fuel for vehicles - the subsidies for big oil are MASSIVE. Whether you are ok with that or not is besides the fact.

Yes, because after being depressed during the worst of Covid, people were using more. That's normal. The rate we see now is entirely because of Russia.

Take it up with the oil companies, and the foreign oil producers. Just to be very clear, you understand there is NOTHING any administration can do to effect private oil prices in any significant way? There is nothing that can be done that hasn't. The multinational oil companies that operate on US soil have thousand of leases they are not moving with. Why would a private, for-profit industry do anything to make their product cheaper? That's not how businesses like these work. But I'm interested to hear what's your plan. Just stick to the facts when you do.

You are failing to grasp renewable energy and electric vehicles are the future. They are going to eventually displace ICEs as the majority of purchases. Now, America can lead, or we can fall behind in another industry and another metric of quality of life. But if this were another era, you would be making the same argument against paving the roads vs. keeping the horse and buggy. Its the exact same logic.

Brainwashed.

#1345 1 year ago
Quoted from MtnFrost:

If you don't believe in facts, then what can I tell you? Your information is wrong. If you cannot support your assertations with more than a one word juvenile response, you might want to consider that.

Exactly what you said, back at ya. (:

Actually could reasonably add stockholm syndrome to brainwashed, reviewing your post content?. Defending the abuser?. Unfortunately talking about the abuser is out of bounds here, even though it is directly tied to the thread topic. Lucky we can talk about the word 'fact' though, since so many seem confused as to what it means. lol

#1346 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

Since I retired I am driving only 60% of what I did when working. And my new car mpg is 31 the old truck 17mpg a 182% increase in mileage. So Today gas is twice the amount per gallon and I am still spending less.
BTW after the last fill up the cars computer said I had a range of 482 miles.

I'm sure you mean an 82% increase in mileage?

182% as a total comparison, not as an increase.

#1347 1 year ago
Quoted from MtnFrost:

... I only have an issue when someone suggests ANY administration can do much to mitigate the world issues causing the extreme prices. ...

What on earth are you talking about? Ha ha . They Caused them!. Same here as well!. All they all have to do is backpedal all of the sabotage and undermining. Stop with the green new bulls#it planed deal. False narratives on the idiot box and social swamp.

I thought we weren't supposed to post about the abuser?

Electric vehicles are great! . The Bad side currently is how the energy is derived, and that commercially available Ev's use batteries.

#1478 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

my last tank of gas was $63.00 (note a year ago it was half that amount) and a tezla 3 awd cost $16K more than my car add 6% sales tax (in Michigan) and it is $16,960. I will forget factoring in the oil changes vs the added interest costs on the auto loan. 16,960/63=269 full tanks of gas or about 118,000 miles before My ICE costs more than your EV assuming you get your electricity for free. and if your pay $.05/mile for electrons then you have spent about $5,900 that another 93 fill ups or 41,000 miles to be driven. and a total of 159,000 miles is about 16 years at my 10K miles per year of driving.
You car may be green but my wallet will be greener for many years to come.

Only the last bit you messed up with there mate, about the EV's being 'green' falacy. lol

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#1485 1 year ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

No my 48 amps and 350kws come from sunshine and a slight breeze!

What about the other 90%+ of EV's?

Here's the problem. People only thinking about themselves.

#1488 1 year ago
Quoted from bob_e:

I guess you don't live in Seattle

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#1495 1 year ago
Quoted from MtnFrost:

Oh, there's somebody here who is sounding duped, but it's not proponents of EVs.

Come back in 2023 and say that buddy :Lol:

Some people don't have a grasp on the definition of some words. Evidence. Reason. Nonsense.

I honestly wish you the best of luck, with such narrow perspective and distorted information you are certainly going to need it. :3

Things are not always the way they sound. (:

*Do you even know what a LFT Reactor is? ... here's a hint, other countries not in the west are already building them en-masse. Also, what is a nuclear power plant predominant reason for existing? (hint: it is not electricity or nukes, and LFTRs can't produce it.)

#1516 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

I'm just curious...do you have a cellphone? Tablet? Laptop?

Do you get what 'scale' means?

Sorry that was a rhetorical question. There's probably no need to answer. lol

#1517 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Can we just drive them because we like them better, though?

No. Did you not comprehend the passage you quoted?

It wouldn't appear so. lol

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#1518 1 year ago

Lol nevermind, least I have stones not like some denial [removed] in here.

#1521 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Yes. There are literally billions of cellphones and other mobile devices running on these "horrible" lithium batteries. Way more than EVs, at this point in time.
So spare me the faux outrage.

Now make every cellphone a car. Then add that on top.

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#1523 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

There are far more cellphones (and tablets, and laptops) in the world than cars of any kind.
7.26B mobile phones in the world.
1.4B cars (of all types) in the world.
Under 1% of cars are EVs.
So you'd be better served directing your lithium outrage elsewhere.

How much bigger is a car battery than a cell phone battery?. Try use your brain to think instead of using it to store propaganda and garbage without thinking about it..

No wonder the world is in such a state, when stuff like you posted there is the banal standard of 'thinking' that so many obviously employ.

The future is not going to be for everyone. They sure got that bit right.

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#4264 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanStl:

I know this is the I hate EV thread, but that's jest and is THE EV thread.
You are like the dude in the UFO thread bringing the vibe down. We Fng know range, how long for charge, and when charging typically happens. We also know what it takes to put gas in a car.
The question is why are you such a tiring broken record?

The rest of us drop by generally in silence with some popcorn to check out the *****rd thread and have a larfe Lol

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#4853 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

US Ford Mustang Sales 2022 through Q3 | 36,598
US Ford Mustang Mach-E Sales 2022 through Q3 | 28,089
* Source: Ford Authority (fordauthority.com)
Using basic math 28,089 < 36,598 by 8,509 = 23.2% fewer Mustang EV's than ICE sold YTD through Q3 2022, so the public knows what it wants.
Ford is definitely migrating to the EV platform, but sales are not outpacing their ICE counterparts (yet). If you wanted to cherry pick, you would see that in the month of July the Mach-E did outsell the ICE Mustang by 1,603 units.

Also, large numbers turning to USED . . . unless of course they are 'fully loaded'. lol

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#5281 1 year ago

Nothing can stop what is coming Lol

#5283 1 year ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

I mean, we are on a pinball website …

Producing and selling Pinball machines to Everybody wouldn't destroy the planet and man-kind in the same way it would by trying that with Lithium based car batteries for Everyone, really do we care that little about people and environment? . Ignoring. Discounting reality. "Yay lets all follow complete contrived anal-ysis nonsense for an agenda of destruction! Yay!"

Woke extremist haters gotta wake up from their wet dream at some point. Reality bites and when it does for them it's going to be crazy to watch the programmed heads implode. Batton down the hatches!!

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#5284 1 year ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

I saw this earlier and almost posted it. But it’s 15 minutes. No person in this thread pro EV can’t sit through more than 15 seconds of any video talking about studies showing how EVs are an environmental saving facade.
“But 0-60 in (fart noise fart noise fart noise)”

Lol absolutely.

It's an inversion of everything, just like most of the crap they pull.

Wait till mass peeps realise Lithium EV (and lots of other stuff) is a trojan horse for worse, intentional destruction of systems and supply chains, the whole worldwide unilateral-green-scam-deal is just that. Lucky the Whole World doesn't have the mythical exploding contrived inflation, right!? Lol

Which state there have they started eliminating EV policy? . Emergency services were removing a crashed EV and a guardrail post or something pierced a 'Cell' let to thermal runaway, use ALL the water they had and let it burn (pump out toxic) till it was ground level and out.

Yeah, EV Great idea!. Nope now people waking the F up it be going away from batteries going forward, on to things that make sense instead of creating nothing but added danger and environmental destruction.

#5287 1 year ago
Quoted from rwmech5:

Biggest issue I have is with the virtue signalling owners. Don't buy an ev figuring you're doing something for the planet. Once the production of the frame and the use of fossil fuels to produce the power to operate these units is figured in, the CO2 savings are negligible.

But the Cost to The Consumer WILL MULTIPLY many fold. That's always been the whole idea with everything. So many see nothing but short term Fluff.

Don't kid yourselves. Give away all your freedoms (travel ability) to an obvious (to many) trojan horse, don't expect to go whinging lateron and hope for mass sympathy..

This is all just history repeating, with different details . . . and a different ending. (:

#5293 1 year ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Dude. Wow. Chill. You read too much internet. You have a serious problem. I’m sad for your brain.

You chill out. I don't waste my time coming to this place too often anymore. I'll make it worthwhile when I do. Must say the projection is strong in these sorts of places.

Thanks bro! . Carry on! Lol (:

#5316 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

While you guys are showing off who has the smaller penis, why are you not fighting over China's Denhon new 99.6 percent efficient EV batteries made from Sea Shells?
Will Shell Oil already have worldwide trademarks in place??
Will virtue signaling vegetarians drive a car powered by hundreds of dead Lobsters??
Will people still bitch about Lithium batteries, as they type on a phone powered by Lithium batteries?
If we dump 8 billion tons of waste crab shells into the ocean, isn't that recycling??
If you continue to eat your shrimp tails, are you not doing your part??
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https://www.homedepot.com/p/Design-Toscano-15-5-in-H-Colossal-Crustacean-Grand-Scale-Giant-King-Crab-Statue-NE100013/309046794

Ever wondered why the TV makes people so retarded.

#5318 1 year ago
Quoted from rwmech5:

I'd pass on the crickets since us humans can't process chitin.

What about the parasite ecosystem in them that hu-man can't deal with. Good book tells you not to "eat ze bugz!" Pmsl

#5324 1 year ago
Quoted from paynemic:

OT but I think it specifically says you CAN eat crickets. If it tastes like Taco Bell, I’m in!

It also says not to eat hu-mans.

Do you even know what is in a jes-burger? :3

#5325 1 year ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Remember, he's reading the Australian version.

Yeah only the vatican versions says crickets are okay then, it seems?

#5349 1 year ago
Quoted from embryonjohn:

Yeah, but those ICE cars are being burned for insurance money to buy new Tesla’s…that burn themselves.
Some people just like flames.

Lol Gotta Love Clown World!!

What about the Model X in 'Self Drive' mode that spent 20 minutes bashing backwards and forward at a school fence, seemingly trying to attack the kids on the other side. Luckily slippery turf near the fence prevented enough traction for a breakthrough of the school fence.

I'm totally convinced it was not being controlled/hacked by some santanic entity. Of course that is impossible, as always.

Astounding how people could 'feel safe' in such backwards technological abominations. Who needs a gun to do an assault when you have a 'self driving' car on the hack cloud, right. Lol

#5350 1 year ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

It’s coming

They are like deer in the headlights . . . . . SMACK!

It's gonna hurt.

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#5352 1 year ago
Quoted from girloveswaffles:

Except Percentage wise, how many Hyundai's have caught fire compared too Tesla Model S and X? And your" example was 15 minutes after a dealer serviced a vehicle.
There's a history of Crappy Tesla Model S cars going up in flames spontaneously. Deny it all you want, those models have problems.

People will soon realise Tesla pumping EVs is part of the Clown World Theatre. A concoction for a purpose. C'mon, Elon Musk? . . . . is evryone really THAT oblivious to the enironmental devastation that would come from even Doubling what toxic crap batteries are produced already. It is Sad that sleeping people need to be woken up this way. Oh well it is what it is. A massive globalist scam that is re-jiged to be exposed.

It's Coming!

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#5353 1 year ago
Quoted from xsvtoys:

We’re a bit safer around SoCal now with a few less crazy EV drivers on the road. They finally arrested Mr Crazy Tesla driver who was randomly attacking people with a crowbar.
Coincidentally, they also just arrested the guy who intentionally drove his Tesla off a cliff with his family in it, he went straight from the hospital to jail.

Just like the Mask psy-op, where now crazy mask people running around going into psycho mode at other people since most not wearing them (some of those no longer with face nappy because they Realised).

Some of it sort of funny, if it wasn't such a tragedy.

Seen one security vid of a dude in a supermarket, holding up a Can of Mace like a Cross to a bunch of demons . . . at Every Other Person in the store, as he abused, rotated, manuvered, and worked his way out of there like some special opps guy in amongst a room full of enemy. Some of the people he was pointing Mace at were Security (maskless). Lol

#5356 1 year ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Wait, you seriously think that car was being controlled/hacked by a satanic entity? Your sentence structure is so convoluted I can’t get your true meaning beneath the sarcasm?
Is this guy on the qanon team?

What the hell is 'Qanon'? . A woke term?

Hang on a sec, are you doing Politiks?? :3

Keep telling us a story. I got my popcorn

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#5359 1 year ago

Who starts a "I hate EV's" thread then expects EV realists to stay away!? PmsL

What a joke. That's why we got our popcorn ready

The triggernometry going on in here is going to be phenomenal!

#5361 1 year ago
Quoted from paynemic:

You seem to piss yourself a lot.

You don't seem to know what's real.

Carry on!

#5391 1 year ago
Quoted from embryonjohn:

Why does the pro EV community have such a fixation with penises?
Did I walk into the wrong bar?

It might be the Trans thing??

I mean, the way EV don't tend to have a Trans . . .

#5402 1 year ago

I know right. For a start, here you go South it gets Colder, so there is the first opposite identified.

I suppose that doesn't count though for some of the 'earth flatters'. lol

1 month later
#5689 1 year ago
Quoted from tripplett:

Below is an image posted in the newspapers about 1900 when electricity was new and just spreading across the US. People fear what they don't understand. They literally thought it would jump out and kill anyone that walked by it.
It's a shame really. Look at any FB ad for an EV and it's filled with hundreds of posts of complete false and nonsense information. Just a bunch of parrots and lemmings really. Rather than validate any information they go by "its on the internet so it must be true"...
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Thing is, in 1900 'electricity' wasn't 'new' . . . neither was Oil (they just changed the name to fossil, so it Seemed exhaustable).

#5702 1 year ago
Quoted from tripplett:

Edison invented the light bulb in 1879 and electricity started becoming more popular after that. Hence my “about 1900” statement. By 1920 just 35% of houses in the US had electricity.

Of course that's the garbage 'school' and his-story taught you.

Too much kool-aide.

#5703 1 year ago
Quoted from altan:

Thinking of creating an “I hate electricity” thread…

Maybe "I hate lithium slave pollution world-ender" fixation thread. That might be a winner.

It isn't the 'electricity' that is the problem. Electricity did not start with 'Edison' the grifter. Work out the cover-up, might help the confusion about what happened when, and by whom. Have to leave the programming behind.

More of a problem is kool-aide zombies conflating issues and getting mixed up about what harm is.

#5726 1 year ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

Am I over thinking this, or is comparing efficiency percentages kind of useless between ICE and EV’s if the ev is charged by fossil fuels? If combustion itself is around 40% efficient, wouldn’t an ev need to be 100% efficient at using the generated power to be equal to an ICE? Alternative energy sources are a no brainer, but isn’t it a net loss when charged on any other system?

Might pay to go back to basics (of what was concealed) and work out what energy actually is in the first place, then come to the devastating revelation that it is literally fking Everywhere around you and always has been, you don't have to pay for it unless you choose to not do the knowledge thing; instead to rely on the make-believe that you get fed the whole life by, B-S artists . . . so that then ignorant and/or stupid can pay; as much as ever they demand. And the Restriction means is also the Polution/Scarcity means. Just the next generation of "Fossil" fuels for the zombie sect to fall for and follow, to Voluntary debt slavery and destruction of 'enemy habitat'.

All we seem to hear from is programmed wokesters with their woke-believe made up excuses and 'fakt-chequing' contrived clap trap. It really is just an embarrassing display to watch unfold, group mental(ity), but that's hu-man for ya I guess.

#5727 1 year ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

Interesting to see combustion of any kind has an efficiency rating of around 40%.

Ask yourself what happens about Efficiency Ratings of >100%. Regarding 'Energy converssion'. Unconventional, but the ways aren't taught so that things make sense in the clap-trap world. Wouldn't telling the truth be counterproductive to their agenda of keeping everything secret?.

Hmmmm. Yes indeed. They trained people to think about things backwards.

#5758 1 year ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

Has anyone mentioned they hate ev’s lately? I think we need to get back to the spirit of the thread

There is a Distinction not being made;

LOVE EV's . . . but Lithium and Batteries?, filled with Contrived Restricted Charged Energy, multiple sorts of Slavery made 'Ok'? . . . basically disgusting isn't enough words.

Nothing Against Electric Powered Vehicles, as in themselves, awesome lets go back to the 19th century 'tech'. Just the current Execution that is nonsensical and retaaded. Very Destructive too. Lithium, Cobalt, mining, surface destruction. Already Unsustainable, yet some refards condone going over a hundred fold in on it!?. On the slavery as well as the pollution. Then the Obvious Added Inherent Fire and Death risks. Lithium EV? . . . Get real boomers.

#5763 1 year ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Boomers? I think you mean Millenials and Gen Z. Maybe even Gen X. The thing pictured sure aint no BOOMER!!!!
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Maybe it was just an ironic misuse of language like a Piss-take?. The phoneticists destroying meaning of words that way is the norm these days, isn't it? . . . I was trying to fit in? lol

The other 'Boomers'? . . . with Mouthboxes "Booming" Garbage? . Word fits perfect now, even for Gretle Boombumberg.

#5766 1 year ago

I actually like EV's; since I was a little kid . . . and voted in the poll as such.

Should tell something about the validity of the poll results, or what they Mean at least.

Lithium and Cobalt expansion is disgusting, there is No Poll Option for the real world or a response like that, where it isn't about "EV's" it's about destruction and backwards woke 'progress'... the poll is skewed with bias just like so many 'polls' these days.

We can include more in the thread about cool EV's instead of just s#it ones.

#5768 1 year ago
Quoted from titanpenguin:

You mean how it’s ironic we go from freedom back to chains and serfdom willingly?

Their devices can be used to initiate termination; if the size and number of s#its produced on any given day does not meet their voluntarily agreed compliance quotas.

#5770 1 year ago

It is ALREADY the case that the amount of Cobalt can not be supplied without slavery and nature destruction, let alone any Increases.

Litium EV for more than the 'Elite' is a Pipedream. Wake up now.

As for the Hyundai Boomboxing, I'm not even going to bother it's such an echo-chamber/marketing woke-joke. You should probably learn the Detractors definition They use for people identifying as 'WOKE", as they laugh. Maybe some peoples comments Using it might make a bit more sense for you.

#5774 1 year ago

Happens enough it's making the regular news here now, men and women in Services Authorities are Waking Up . . .

. . . more of The People are starting to wake up to the reality of a scam too, thankfully.

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#5775 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/@unit8200/videos

Also, as this based Aussie points out for you with facts of Why, y'all won't be too fixated with spending $$ on EV's, or pinballs, for too much longer . . . .

That is Legal Facts too by the way, for the ignorant.

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they wouldn't comprehend what a "Legal Fact" even means. God help us.

#5779 1 year ago

Well that brought out all the intelligent comments then Lol

All the proof we needed. Dang, where's that popcorn e-moji . . . I'm going back to laughing at the sidelines for a while. "Tag" someone else is 'it'.

The really sad thing is the lack of morality or care factor. But to be fair, just 'victims' really, right.

#5781 1 year ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

Imagine what the youtube videos were like when they industrialized coal mining...

Are you really that ignorant IRL matey??

You can't change reality by 'believing' it away. Wow lol

#5786 1 year ago

Watch them as they Go . . .

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#5788 1 year ago

Yes PooToob is garbage, but pinside only seems to allow embedding of garbage platforms, so there you go Lol

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#5815 1 year ago
Quoted from girloveswaffles:

I posted some videos about recycling recycleing Lithium Ion cells/batteries (also Lead Acid and carbon) earlier in the topic. One advantage is it's cheaper than mining new metals, and helps eliminate other waste as well (packaging of the cells).
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-i-hate-evs-thread/page/13#post-6823540

Get your Facts right, instead of just drawing from the favourite made up clap-trap corporate 'fakt-chequer' "sources".

You really do not bother to cross check and Verify things a couple of times, hey?? . . just seek out Validation of Crazy.

Once again, the reason the place screwed, too many people Assume they are 'always right' by parroting FaktChequers, yet couldn't bother to Check Any Other Unrelated Sources. Great Psyence!! . Bravo to the fools of the world.

#5817 1 year ago
Quoted from jellikit:

I want to see us work from the plans for the 1958 Ford Nucleon. It can't get better than a nuclear-powered car.
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At least it makes more sense than the current fad.

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#5835 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

We'd never be able to do it.
Think of giving an Android phone to German scientists in the 1940s. [quoted image]

Only if the German Scientists restricted themselves to less than 3% of all the information, like most of todays soyensists seem to.

Reality is different than fairytales though, most often. Also the thing about reality, it can be proven, unlike fairytales. Just don't show anyone your proof, it could be deadly.

#5851 1 year ago
Quoted from coolwhs:

Not all politicians are corrupt, but of course they don't care about anyone they haven't met before, that's being human.
Some people would rather have clean air and save money and solar panels are part of the way to reduce fossil fuel usage and pay for themselves over time, simple as that.
60% of oil usage is for transportation and if it can be reduced ASAP so we don't have to breathe toxic gas/dust and fight wars over it that's a huge win.

No mate, they are all corrupt . . . All politiks. So, Don't talk about it, right! . Lets Do MEDIA instead. Hmmmm

Same, hey. What about Corporate!? . Oh dang yeah, the same. Don't worry about it!!

It's like people still Hug 'government' as if they haven't worked out what the Word means yet, even though it is So in your face!. Mental hey!!! Lol

#5856 1 year ago

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#5866 1 year ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

This is fake news everyone knows electricity is made out of sunshine and rainbows!!!

. . . by the care bears and the unicorns

Where is Voltron when you need him hey.

#5895 1 year ago
Quoted from Ribs:

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Am I posting lame boomer memes correctly?

Yep, MAXIMUM Spin and high bias.

Go Boomer!!

#5899 1 year ago
Quoted from mrm_4:

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That IS a pretty decent post there mate!

#5918 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinplayer1967:

One of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on Pinside.

Fantastic excuses for affects of the mass jumpy off the bridgey thing they 'made' all citizens do . . . sticks out like dogs ballz.

Traffic 'accidents' in the cities are off the charts here. People keep having heart attacks or seisures or whatever else in intersections and stuff or in traffic. Must be all the pollution all of a sudden. The road train head on collisions too. That never used to happen. "Bloody Pullution!" Grrrr!! :3

#5921 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Bring on the probes![quoted image]

It isn't "Old Dinosaurs" Mr Rothschild.

Running on myths will get you in a pickle.

#5949 1 year ago
Quoted from Ribs:

Why do you only have words for distracted pedestrians who have the right of way and none for distracted and reckless drivers running people over at all time record levels? Where are your words for the lack of sidewalks and safe pedestrian infrastructure? Words for dangerous blind zones for trucks/SUVS that are ever increasing in size? Your risk analysis is shit and not supported by data.
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It's the kid's fault if anything happens! The 2nd leading cause of death for children can be simply solved with the child having a greater sense of personal responsibility. Genuis! That should allow us to race through parking lots and take rights on red with greater reckless abandon than ever before.

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Not to attract attention to a story about parental deficiency in looking after or teaching their children . . . but the advertisers could at least make their propaganda convincing, consistent. It's a bad look.

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