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Quoted from epthegeek:Can't explain why the Bond LEs are taking so long, but bond was Playable at Chicago Expo last year - which is already 128 days ago, so roughly 4 months ago.
Move to new building ?
I’m so glad I’m over the FOMO express .That being said , I will have a decision to make which starts tonight watching they’re new movie as I just seen the bus in the trailer (i’d bet same style with a different storyline) and ends next week with the sizzle clips .I do not need a stream on this one as I have 100%confidence in JD coming out swinging .This new blood at Stern (designers ,coders , mechanical engineers ) the last 5 years is really sitting well with me .I just will need to decide next week to sell a game to fund a LE straight away or put a deposit down on a 2nd run prem so I can keep what we have and add to it I’m 95% sure I will own this pin it’s just when .
So if we’re deciding between a LE or Premium ,the LEs (and first run premiums ) will be gone before we see a photo of the premium ?
Quoted from skink91:Somehow we will find a way to be outraged at this!
I found a way
Are the actually going to miss the first thing on the new Stern Set List ? Just saying , getting a little late in the day is it not ?
That was the easiest 10k I’ve ever spent ! Fucking Awesome job Jack !!! Not waiting for second run on this one .I’m glad I jumped in Friday I’d do actual cartwheels right now if I wasn’t so worried about getting hurt haha!
I ordered a prem and if both sides of the cabinet are the same ,I’m thinking of buying a set of the pros to put on one side .I like the art on these that much If anyone else wants to do the same lmk we’ll split the price
Quoted from Vitty:They are still easily found - 1000 is just too many and the cost gap between premium and LE is getting to be too big
GZ LEs are the only one recently that seemed to flip for profit .Hopefully that is over with but we’re still at flipper pricing haha .I’d much rather Stern gets the $ if they keep slinging out pins like this
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Thanks PM I think I would go even lighter but that looks good to me .Going to be between that and the darker blue /purple .
DF533AFD-BECC-4EB2-88AC-ED05A318A404 (resized).pngI’ve had them on LZ and Rush .They’re cool but I’ve lost interest in them as are .I’d much rather see them vertical like a EQ maybe even mimic your EQ setting just using the whole spectrum of colors .
I would love to see Stern offer actual backglass for the pros and premiums with the same artwork as the trim level .I’m sure LE owners wouldn’t mind
Everyone counts shots differently but no matter which way you do ,this has plenty of them and nothing seems too tight .The more I look at this layout ,the more blown away I get
Quoted from Desmodromic:This darker blue that HemiOrange did on Kkoss24 IMDN would also look killer on this Foo pin, I think. The next post after shows a black with crazy illusion sparkle topcoat that would look great over top of any kind of mid or darker blue, IMHO. I really think the dark blue/purple metallic that atg1469 has on his GZ a couple posts down from there would look great too. Seems like the sparkle would be outstanding for a music pin, especially one that has Foos vs. Aliens.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-can-powder-coat-your-pinball-armor-for-29500-plus-return-shipping/page/9#post-7294106
Hit the image gallery in that thread, lots of great choices there and (for me anyway) it helps to see the colors in the context of a machine rather than just on a chip.
Thank You for the compliment Here’s the PF I was thinking that also but can’t have 2 the same .I think this would look killer on the pro .
18D17B73-8839-46E3-B444-13D46415673E (resized).png5DB56D1C-96F7-457F-AD2B-C6D825F91A08 (resized).pngB978F49F-2594-4CC5-BE0F-B08F69780D73 (resized).pngQuoted from TreyBo69:If you ignore all the stuff that makes them different, then you'd realize they're actually pretty similar
Someone needs to throw some wheels on , and a motor in a pin already so we can move in from #cargument
Is the van where you start modes ? One other question not pertaining to this 8th wonder ,does anyone know of the pinball stereo single kit that handles up to 5 pins on it ? I was reading about it one day and didn’t screen shot it .I’ve been looking ever since but can’t find it anywhere .Pinwoofer is Top Notch sound but I can’t afford one for every pin .
Wasn’t a fan of the green at first and I enjoy personalizing premiums but it looks slick as F. IMO it looks like GZ has a legitimate challenger .Sky’s the limit with this one once I heard RD was teaming with Tonio my alarms went off .Just getting to watch the stream now on a bit WOW!!
I’m pretty sure the reason they’re not talking about band callouts is that they’re rumored to be in the studio recording right now .I’d imagine that would take precedence over pinball callouts There is hope but I’m not going to think about it as I can’t find a single thing to nit pick .My only regret is that I wasn’t ready for a LE but there’s nothing to complain about here ,I enjoy customizing Prems .
Quoted from Zablon:Rumor is the album is already done and releasing in March.
Yeah but editing goes on to the wire .Alks I’m saying is there’s a decent chance
Quoted from Zablon:Rumor is the album is already done and releasing in March.
Was there little to no callouts in the stream ? If so that would mean they’re leaving it open I would think .I’ve watched some ,but didn’t notice with all the lightning play going on .I’m at work so it felt like watching porn at home muted LMFAO !!
Quoted from KING-HENRY:I kinda feel the same..given a choice? LE, however I'm really a 'premium' guy at heart..and I want to customize the powder coat color, other than green. The green doesn't do it for me (I might go yellow with sparkles in it, who knows). The very important thing about a premium is the 'ability' to have the expression lighting..I'll be a first day purchaser on that, esp considering the supply/demand. And I saved over 3K (yeah, we are both justifying here ) As long as I have that upper playfield, I'm good!
Get in the EL lists from your distro now if you have not yet .
Quoted from hiker2099:I have talked to 4 major distributors who have the LE in stock but want between 15-17K. I thought Stern said they couldn't do that?
I can’t blame them right now as they’re all sitting on games with slow sales that have the new price hike AND are going against some Behemoths for a piece of the pie .It doesn’t make sense to me but who am I ? I wonder if eventually they’re able to sell them at “Sale Pricing” as they have a floor I believe .I think pinball “blue light specials “ would be great for the hobby .Maybe before a pin is retired have a small run at ruduced prices in a lottery or waiting list type setup .
Quoted from KING-HENRY:lol..But to your callout comment, and everyone else that craves callouts, I'd personally do NOT want band member callouts..actually brings me into the story more..but maybe I'm the unicorn with that mindset. I like the pin and animations do most of the work (think IM). That's better in my book (in certain cases). I'm not a rock pin guy, (and this will be my first)..so if it's more 'Attack from Marsy', the better.
I agree ,IMDN is my favorite for callouts but still would like some from the band .If it happens I’m sure it wouldn’t be the crazy amount some pins have as there’s a tour to start soon .
Quoted from Beechwood:I don't know what you've been smoking, but I want some!
I’m smoking “Blue Light Special@ of course
70 pins have been put up in the marketplace in the last 24 hrs .Never seen that many in a single day prior to this .
Quoted from reffob:Jack said "this game was in development when we lost Taylor Hawkins. it didn't feel right to do callouts without everyone represented, without Taylor"
Makes total sense. Hard to ask them to record callouts when their bandmate just passed.
He ended that with "but you know what, who knows..." So maybe they'll do it at some point. He did say they have a ton of non-band member callouts coming.
Completely understandable .As far as I’m concerned topic is closed .
I only went first run because I don’t want to get bumped to ‘24 and swallow another price hike haha.Just like GZ ,FF’s looks like a “price hike” pin .
Quoted from tdiddy:Ugh....it's the little thing that ppl don't catch that drive me nuts. The Van is render backwards on the rightside of the cab vs. All the other images we've seen. I asked stern on their FB page if the van was lefthand drive.........instantly deleted
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Just do what I’m doing .I love this artwork so much I’m going to split a Pro decal set with someone and install it on one side of the cab .Best of both worlds and will go well together even though it doesn’t have to
The smart thing to do would be leave a spot open at home with cash ready at all times .Something like this pops and your ready to roll .Then sell one off and replenish the nest .Now ask me if I listen to my “inner smart guy” lmao .
I do not put blame on Distros at all .I put it squarely on the manufactures, period .The latest price jumps were too much ,too quick and I’m sure the Distros are as pissed ,or even more so than us consumers .They’re all sitting on inventory that they had to pay a certain price for ,and have a floor price to sell at .Now everyone ,including myself ,have to up they’re prices on used games to afford the NIBs and when the used market slams the breaks as we’re seeing now ,everybody loses .Take a game I truly loved having at home ,a LZ prem .We vote in my house on what comes and goes .My kids had the “nothing to do “ vibe with LZ and I have to agree ,there’s nothing innovative in that pin (just a great old fashioned pinball machine)therefore a GZ had to cost more to plan and build is this correct ? Even though I thought the art was fitting on Zep ,I have to take in account I’m old and a huge fan .The art had to be much more $ on a GZ or IMDN and fittingly so ,it’s awesome and I stare at GZ/IMDN constantly .I’ve seen the Zep album covers many ,many times so can we agree the artwork had to be more on the 2 ZYs mentioned? The third part would be the big ? , how much more did LZ want for the use of their license than TOHO ? I have no clue but this all being said , should a NIB LZ prem and a GZ prem be the same price right now ? Lastly ,as far as Stern goes (I’m so close to buying only from Stern and PBs) there is now 2 Gary’s to pay the big barrel of cash to .Things were great when there was one imo All this said ,Im in on FFs first run prem and I’m quietly hoping my game up in the market will not sell .I’ll just have to take a beating from my wife but I’ve prevailed before and I will again because Men Rule haha !
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:I feel like it goes back to the buyers. If people weren't tripping over each other to over pay on Mando LEs and Godzilla LEs, then the mfgr wouldn't have bumped the prices so high. They were seeing their 11K games being flipped immediately for 13K and said, well, there's the new price and here we are.
I can just speak for myself ,but plain and simple I’m addicted to pinball We all are and they know it .I mean where are we to go for games on Sterns level ?Here ,thats it .Ive only purchased 1Stern LE and it was from a second hand dealer .He was really cool (we still chat here and there ) and the price was good so it wasn’t a bad experience at all .As far as price increase’s and pinheads buying them there’s only one thing that can derail that and it for a good portion of us to throw in the towel when funds are not available for the purchase .I know I’m damn close .I’m trying to sell a game I normally wouldn’t want to sell right now but that’s what I have to do to get the new shiny (cmon ,there’s zero chance FF is not an all timer ) .Like ai said earlier the smart way is to sell a game during down time and have funds ready but God forbid I have a open spot haha. I think it’ safe to say prices will halt for quite some time wouldn’t you think ?
I Couldn’t be any happier that the first run of prems is only 4-7 weeks away .I have such a comfortable vibe going on with this “No Brainer” of a pin meaning it’s not Hype ,it’s Comfy :)I’m still looking to trade the 1k deposit and our MET prem that’s here in Market for a LE if anyone is interested please lmk .
Quoted from Alamo_Pin:What is the consensus on studio 666? Looks like the critical reviews weren’t very good, but do the true FF fans love it?
If you like your pizza with extra ,extra cheese you’ll love it as I haha
I’ve liked/disliked upper playfields in the past but this one doesn’t seem to block sight to much from the players perspective on the stream .There’s a lot to do up there for a small space and it flows fast through the area to the wireform if you chose not to flip up there .Looks like a good one .
Has anyone heard about when the prems are expected to get on the line? Yeah I’m really ,really psyched to 1)visually lay eyes on it 2)hear the full audio package with a little upgrade 3)watch this story play out on the screen 4)get a fast/flowy upper playfield at home ,I really miss having one (WOZ,Family Guy) 5)start studying the rules like I should’ve when I still had a chance and most of all I really need to FLIP DA FOO !
Wow ,what a splash by all these manufacturers with some great options out there .After watching everything over and over. I’m feeling very comfortable today to be rolling on the Foo Train !
Also , just sold our pin that was on the block so wife’s happy I’m not trying to sneak one in again .Happy wife ……On another note , does anyone know if there’s a mirrored option to go along with the expression lights on a Prem ?
Quoted from PinMonk:I don't believe anyone has made mirror blades with expression light cutouts. Doesn't really matter though. Stern still can't supply expression lights to buy for premiums from over a year ago. You may never be able to buy them. LE is the only guarantee of having them.
Unfortunately ,that’s very true PM .
Quoted from pinbuoy:Dang what happened to the hype train? I need it to keep going, I'm pinless over here man !!!!
The hype train has turned to relaxed mode for me .Many great looking choices all at once but I’m feeling very confident in FFs to the point it’s a afterthought .For me ,this one hit all the senses .The artwork along with the original storyline seem to blend perfect. I would not have jumped on this game this early if it was a “concert” pin .As far as the shots in this game let’s face it , its a no brainer . From what I heard during the stream ,I’m liking what they’re doing with code for instance in area 51 ,you’re up there with a purpose looking for info on the Alien and if you don’t need to ,it flows through just like the pro .This upper looks more like it’s just part of the main playfield than others meaning it doesn’t seem to cause any lost space at all .You have the “flow thru” , then a added 2 loops (1 with a spinner ) , 3 targets ,and a kickback (I believe it’s a kickback ) .After watching the stream I asked myself “what more can I possibly want in a pin “.
I like that they’re only allowing 8 choices during single ball play and the rest exclusive to modes and mb’s. I’ve always said this is the way to create pinball moments .
I don’t know about you guys , but Fuck am I happy to have jumped in on the first run of FFs .I’ll just leave it at that
Quoted from onemilemore:I am now a huge Iron Maiden fan thanks to the game. I'd always known they existed but never explored them more deeply until I got into pinball - now I own the game and am trying to figure out how to make one of their next tour dates.
They’re shows are some of my all time favorites to attend .They never disappoint !
I put that order in 5 minutes into the stream and never looked back on this one .I want one more from the crop of ‘23 but not sure yet on any of those .This IS the only no brainer in the group imo
Quoted from PantherCityPins:I played about 6-7 games of FF today at TPF, mostly premium.
Premium thoughts:
- Machine needs to be set up correctly but when it is, man what a blast to shoot. The right orbit and the left crossover "Rami" shot were the hardest for me to hit. The right ramp is very hittable when the machine is dialed in correctly.
- There were issues on both pros and premiums with the plunge not making that ramp and rattling out. I assume that is a setup issue because it wasn't consistent machine to machine.
- The Overlord magnet does a bit more than I initially thought. It functions to center the ball between the pop up posts when the ball is locked but if you hit the ball into there with the posts down on a Premium it does throw the ball back out at you, sometimes quickly. I was pleased to see it.
- The upper playfield is fun! It's a mini-flipper so it's slower up there but honestly it's a nice break from the very fast pace of the main playfield. I was able to get three upper playfield loops in a row, a buddy of mine got 5.
- Dead post. Enough said.
- Art looks great. The backbox side art on the Premium is fantastic. Love the Foo-Bot.
- The side cabinet art is cool but it does make the machine very red. Would not recommend red powder coated armor on this one. I'm thinking a purple but we will see.
- Code is already really fun, will only improve from here.
- Playfield art I really liked. When you are playing the game it does not seem over the top or too bright, I didn't feel it cluttered the playfield or detracted from the inserts at all.
- Seems that the current strategy is to start Los Angeles first because that is a ramp shot mode which you need anyway to start Area 51 multiball, then either New York or Roswell. I was able to finish both New York, Los Angeles and Seattle this weekend. Didn't play Roswell or New Orleans much. Chicago seemed harder to me.
Overall I came away very happy that I will be getting a Premium soon. I think if I had not bought a Foo Fighters I would have called my distributor and ordered one after this weekend for sure. I would say it's going to be a top 5 pin.
The upper was the nail in the coffin for me .I love that they incorporate a big loop with a kickback that you earn ,a small loop with spinner , and targets that face you .They pack it well in a medium sized upper .It doesn’t seem you lose any space and I’d imagine the premium loses no steam to the pro when you let the ball pass.It seems like it’s back on the right flipper pretty damn quick
Quoted from Jamesays:I bet Foo green is on the line as we speak
How many pins does Stern build a week now ? No rush but you know , I really want this prem to land
Quoted from PinMonk:Yeah, it's sounding like the Pros are rolling out this week for locations and a few lucky homes. The rest of the FF Pro homes will be sad pandas until almost August.
Looking forward to checking out the pro, but really chomping at the bit for my LE to get here.
That LE looks so sharp
Quoted from matt68061:where you at? Looks awesome!
That was Key Largo last year .We’re in Alabama this year I’m putting on a good show ,but as soon as we get back home I’ll be on High Alert for Foo’s landing in homes .
42F09A38-2191-41CD-9733-02F9D1080E36 (resized).jpegQuoted from Jackontherocks:Except when they decide to play 5 boring songs off new album in a 13 or only 15 song set less than 2hr show. Love them and always great live show, but short set list kills me.
Yeah we’re all getting older together Still rocking though .
I had so much confidence in this pin, I sold our Met Prem to purchase the prem …..and rent a house on the ocean in a Gulf Shores for the whole family Just got back ,what a great place to vacation .I’m a professional when it comes to keeping my wife happy with the pins taking up most our home theatre room .Gotta do what you gotta Foo ! I’ve had a Met Pro and Prem so the MOP will arrive here one day .Probably a retirement gift to myself in 9 years Now get this pin delivered !!!
Quoted from Doctor6:As a person who hasn't played a premium yet, what made you decide premium over pro. Is the upper playfield any actual fun? I haven't gotten the chance yet to check one out.
.I have not liked many uppers ,but with a spinner ,2 loops ,2 stand ups and 1 kickback to go along with a pass through it just seems this will flo well and I’m liking what I’m hearing about how they’re using it with the story .The death save is just a bonus
Quoted from Taygeta:I haven’t played the premium yet but expect I’ll feel the same about the upgrades. Had expression lighting been available on the pro, I would have gotten a pro myself.
After getting EL on my Rush pro, it’d an absolute must have on any games I’m interested in going forward. It’s a shame Stern forces you to get the premium/LE for them now, unlike on LZ and Rush
It’s a shame at 9500 a prem doesn’t come with them as LZ did .
Quoted from Doctor6:Well in LZs defense (sorta), there wasn't a lot in that game to begin with. The least they could do was add that in the premium.
Very true .I still miss that game more than any other we’ve had .The kids didn’t like it .The old “nothing to do “ was what I was told .I think it’s a true pinball machine and will have one again someday .
Quoted from HB_GAMER:and I see the magnet getting refined to use as a tractor beam to suspend and or capture a ball.
Which magnet are we talking about ?
Quoted from Sorokyl:God damnit I'm going to pay $1000 for 6 action figures and a "foo bot" for a topper, aren't I??
7 if they add the Alien .
I love me some LZ .Straight pinball , no BS .I sold our prem because kids weren’t playing said “nothing to do “ . Yeah nothing to do ….minus ripping killer pinball shots and perhaps the baddest spinner in all of pinball ! I’ll get another one day .I also sold RushLE for GZprem and now MET prem for FFprem .All this while Alien LV stays here .Go figure .If you have not played a true Alien LV with all the tweaks sorted out and pitched to high heaven you don’t know what your missing ,mostly now at used pricing .Also I leave that spot (of 4 total ) for something other than a modern Stern .I’m at 4 until both kids get sorted and they’re only 14/15 .I couldn’t manage more than that now anyway .We’ll, 5 is the actual limit I was given haha
Quoted from Zablon:I don't mind the FF theme and thought the previews looked great. I had played a GZ pro before and was kind of meh on it.
But then then I played (both) FF, and GZ prem the same weekend and found I preferred GZ more...but...I really thought that both games were similar in play feeling. I would think both in the same collection would be way too close. Anyone else see this?
With the premiums , there is some similarity but you can probably take any 2 Sterns and find some parts that are close to each other and I’d imagine the upper PF will set them apart .If they end up being too similar one will have to go eventually for me anyway ,but I’ll cross that bridge if I ever get to it
This kind of bickering never happened in the Love Fest which was Rush pinball .Be happy for one and all ,these are great times in this hobby and these baby’s are about to start landing in homes
Quoted from Jazzbouche:Hey Guys…Together with Stumblor I’ve been working on an ‘upgraded’ Overlord mod. Here’s a tease on where we’re at.
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As well as all the usual integrated lightshows you’ve come to expect, there’s a couple of other interesting surprises that we’re working on that will hopefully have this mod punching well above its weight. Lot of training to do before he can get in the ring with the Foo, so stay tuned!
Looks more intimidating than the original for sure .Is this for all models ?
1087519D-1E16-4570-80EE-6F7740E7E177 (resized).pngA48B3737-9AB2-4E45-9F78-CDFAB8373F7A (resized).pngQuoted from BrewersArcade:NEW FOOS ALBUM “BUT HERE WE ARE” ANNOUNCED FOR RELEASE ON 6/2!
Nice to hear , they’ll be ready to record callouts now
I’m not going to wish for anything and just let Team Danger do they’re thing .That being said ,I don’t know why it would be disrespectful to use Taylor’s voice (if they chose to)as it’s embedded in history within thousands of interview’s and home video out for the public to take in anyway .Our LE is shipping to the distro first for inspection (a first for me ,pretty cool of them ) so I’m hoping it gets there today to have a shot of having it by Saturday .It’s a long shot but it’s always nice to have a glimmer of hope Congrats to all with busy landing pads today !
Hearing there’s a delay on LEs now .Stern hoping to ship next week .Man I despise the word “hoping” in pinball haha .Looks like they got some out but something is holding things up .Oh well , I’ve waited a whole lot longer for other pins and have been blowing up GZ on a regular basis finally so see y’all next week .
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:Well my LE is at my distro and ready to be shipped!
I'm also going on vacation and won't be back until MAY 1st!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH! FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!
Do you want to switch LEs ?
I just hope all the LEs make it out next week but it does not look good when premiums are being told 2nd week of May .I’m guessing that would mean LEs span the next 2 weeks .Has Stern moved into the new building yet ? I had a tour scheduled when covid hit and am looking forward to seeing the new factory now Happy Friday to all those landing pads today !!!
Funny ,I know people count shots in different ways but this has more than any other Stern on the main playfield .Then add the upper and there’s nothing even close to it ,at least the way I count but I would imagine it would be the same for anyone who tried to .Not everyone will like this game ,it’s impossible but bare ? That’s too funny .
Quoted from pinbuoy:I thought I was the only one that counted shots...now I have to count....
What did you come up with haha .I’m at 23 main and 6 upper with my unique method .For comparison ,GZ is 19 main and IMDN 18 all Prem /LE.
Quoted from Doctor6:That's because nobody has talked about it ever. I'm taking a jab at jjp marketing.
Right over my head
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