Ghost busters will probably have ghosting. Lol

NOTHING !
all my playfields are perfect.

None of those issues at all on my GoT Prem:

Playfield: "#086 of 260"
Game Mfg Date: Jan 20, 2016

Ghostbusters LE 242/500 Has issues ont the playfield. The issues is growing every day.

I think you meant Crazing not Grazing... But then again, My Sterns are out in the back yard Grazing on the grass as I type this!

My met premium and mmr has lifting on the drain edge hole. Idk if that counts for anything.

I like the crazing look.

Following

there is no problems on Stern Pinball...

Ahhhh... the Jedi mind trick.

Looks like you have about a 50/50 shot at getting a good one.....you a gambler?

Problems with my GBLE playfield to:
- Ghostbusters LE 208/500 some ghosting inserts and getting worse;
- Date of manufacture: May 26 2016;
- Manufacturing date of the playfield: May 13 2016.

Already contacted stern for warranty..... I can't imagine that Stern isn't going to do anything, they have to fix this! Such a shame, Ghostbusters is so much fun.... Stern hit it out of the park with this one, but why can't they deliver a quality product?

LE #207 has problems. No ghosting yet but a 'ribbed' playfield. And my woofer does not work, but that will be an easy fix. The rest seems ok. Apart from the strange 5 issues you get when opening the menu while there are no issues.

Of course it is!
It's a Stern.

My Kiss has some, my Xmen LE has some, all the GOT's and GB's I've seen have some.

All Stern pins last 4 years seem to have some ghosting, I'm just not that concerned by it.

My buddies Stars playfield looks excellent. Manufactured late 1978.

My whole LE is a ghost since I have no idea when it'll arrive.

Not true.. My MET (2013) IMVE (2014) no ghosting... Seems the majority are European games???(extreme temps in the shipping container????)

keep in mind that many people dont even look close enough to see insert ghosting and other wont admit it if they did. I am guessing more people are voting no that likely have or will have some insert issues on GB. It is definately the worse I have seen. I have played 6 different examples and 4/6 had some ghosting.

Because they are Stern fanboys would be my only guess

GOT pro with 6700 plays

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Kiss pro with 30k+ plays. I have not noticed any ghosting on my Ghostbusters.. yet. Every SMVE I see on route have tons of inserts ghosting.

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I have an IMVE with 60k+ games with no ghosting inserts or clear chipping by the trough. 100, 10k, or 100k games they shouldn't be doing that.

I expect shit like broken plastics and ramps, but not ghosting inserts and clear coat issues so quickly in the ownership. After a couple of years, whatever. Kiss is less than a year old and GOT is less than 6 months old.

I have a GoT LE, I haven't noticed any ghosting, but I do have quite a few inserts with crazing

I just took a look at the outhole on my GoT (~1K plays). I had not thought this area to be a wear concern, but I did see a few very tiny chips in the clear along that edge. Nothing like the photo above . Applied a mylar patch and called it good.

Stern games in my collection:

SM - No playfield wear, no insert issues.
Tron - No playfield wear, no insert issues.
AC/DC Premium - No playfield wear, no insert issues.
IM - No playfield wear, no insert issues.
GB LE - No playfield wear, no insert issues (already have over 300 games on it).

Either I'm lucky, or people with issues are unlucky. I hope it's the latter, because I'd hate to be the exception to this sort of problem.

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS :

Current polls values
GB with playfield issues 55.5%
SMVE with playfield issues 68.75%
GOT with playfield issues 38.71%

To be fair, I believe only 1 of your pins qualify: GBLE. These issues that have popped up recently seem to be from games manufactured in the past 10 months.

Don't trust the numbers in a blind poll. Even if they were overwhelmingly positive, people often vote with an agenda. If the real numbers were as high as the polls were saying, we'd be seeing MUCH more of a fuss about this. But still, even 5-10% rate would be unacceptably high. I can see 2% slipping by quality control, but if 1 in 20 or 1 in 10 were getting out with issues, then there's a problem with inspection. We haven't seen a large enough sample to know what numbers are like of bad playfields compared to the run sizes. Heck, we don't even know how many games are out there, because Stern doesn't release that information.

tl;dr - numbers in voting are probably inflated by fanboys/haters on both sides, but Stern is definitely letting too many bad playfields out into the wild.

I ain't afraid of no ghost-ing. Stern will send everyone who has these problems a particle beam and a ghost trap that will immediately trap and remove these issues. This is part of the fun and the reason you paid EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS for a pinball machine.

There seems to be an issue,

I was just told it's a parts issue. Thanks for cross threading me too!

Early GB buyer. Got it in time for a launch party (May 12th). PF is stamped April 20th IIRC. Mine does not show ghosting that I have seen.

don't own a machine yet (so i didn't cast a vote) but Stern Brought 3 tables "Fresh off the factory floor" to Comic-Con san diego. I played on all 3 quite a bit and here was my impression of the playfield conditions:

Pabst Blue Ribbon: Neat game. Playfield was perfect. The angle on it is super low so you would notice any little imperfection if it had any. The ball feels like its moving at a snails pace compared to other modern games. smooth as silk.

Ghostbusters Pro: So far as I could tell the playfield was perfect. Though I will note that something felt 'weird' with the way the ball was acting on the field. The ball would often be traveling very fast, then rebound off a post, or deadflip off a flipper, and the ball would come to a complete stop or nearly so 3-4 inches from the rebound. like it was getting a wicked back spin, and suddenly getting traction on it. It was happening so often that people were complaining about the 'Magnets' under the playfield messing up the game. (which, we all know, there are no magnets under the pro) I wonder if this was just a 'squeeky' new playfield coat behavior that will fade in time? In any event, there were zero noticable problems with inserts or any other playfield imperfections.

Spiderman: The new spiderman was a ton of fun, and was a great contrast in difficulty to Ghostbusters (Spidey is far more forgiving) But those inserts.... man. they were a mess. This is a brand new machine and I could visibly see the lumpy bumpy texture of the inserts rising up. The balls path was constantly being effected by them. In every other respect the game was beautiful and played amazing. but if i had bought that machine brand new I would be removing/re-installing those inserts the first free weekend I had time to do so. It would have been a bigger issue on a less forgiving machine, but it is still a problem.

I'm going to be ordering a Ghostbusters pro at the end of the month. I'll check back in with this thread and cast a vote when it arrives. I like that this thread was started with the spirit of proactive feedback and not internet rage. There's some people on this forum who complain so much about trivial things I have to hold myself back from replying: "Well if STERN's product is so poor why don't you buy from a better pinball company?" then the inevitable followup: "oh... right..."

Respect STERN. they are LITERALLY the only reason we get new pinball at all.
cheers,

Herp derp JJP? Get a pinball from them with no ghosting.

Ya , the Playfield part !

Everybody has issues. No use throwing anybody under the bus or propping anybody up on a pedestal. The real test is how the companies deal with the problems. We're still waiting to see how Stern reacts, though in the past they've done well. JJP has a solid record of doing right by customers. But man, both companies have been having to fix a lot of issues after shipment.

Fact.

You know what happens when you assume!?