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Is your Stern ghosting / crazing / insert lifting / other ?

By flashinstinct

7 years ago


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#13 7 years ago
Quoted from sygu:

there is no problems on Stern Pinball...

Ahhhh... the Jedi mind trick.

1 week later
#203 7 years ago

I always thought the goal of routing the insert pockets were to route them a little shallower than the raw insert height. Then the inserts can be pushed and glued in so they sit on the step in the routing, which would fully support the insert and prevent the inserts from sinking at all. After the insert installation, I thought the whole playfield was then drum sanded to finish the excess insert heights down to the playfield surface making everything flush and ready for screen printing of the art. Why would you route the insert holes extra deep and risk the inserts sinking? Is this what is happening? Are the routed inserts pockets excessively deep and the glue unable to hold the insert from sinking?

#205 7 years ago
Quoted from jar155:

If this is what's happening, that's unbelievably sloppy.

I'm just wondering here. Has anyone looked under their playfield to see if there is an excess gap in the routing? Heck, even if there is, what if it's supposed to be there because someone in production thought it would be a good idea to fill that gap with glue? I guess this gets back to how are playfields supposed to be made in regards to this routing depth? Maybe Vid or someone else in the industry knows? I just think if I was making playfields I'd want the insert fully supported by the step in the routing, but what do I know?

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#361 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

So we at least know that the playfield insert holes were routed to the correct depth, and that glue held during the drum sanding operation. (loose inserts in the sanding drum buck out into a wedge).
I tried to remove some of the ghosted inserts, and they are glued down tight. No movement even with a little heat.

Thanks for this info Vid. I personally wondered about this.

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#659 6 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

I'm going to get in the next 4-6 months that almost everyone has banana inserts that ghost on Star Wars.

It seems to me that banana (sometimes we called them hot dog) shaped inserts always seem to be the most problematic shape for inserts. Forgive me for bringing up my ancient Williams/Bally history, but I swear I've had to re-level banana/hot dog inserts more than any other shaped inserts on my older W/B games. It just seems that there's something about the large curved shape that makes this style of insert want to shift around more than others.

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