Hope everyone is having a stellar Saturday!

We are extremely sensitive to pricing and quality and it's always fun to refresh our DIY cost comparison, so here it is.

If all you do is swap speakers for something better than middle of the road, you're in for a minimum of $125, and you may find that there is little appreciable improvement. This is because the factory amplifier is de-rated and lacks the drive necessary to provide good dynamic range in the backbox, and punch / sustain in the cabinet. So, to amp it up and go all in, you'll need mounting rings with dwell to accommodate the excursion of the speakers because of the additional amplification. That's going to take you to $175. The frequently mentioned Ali Express / Chinese amps run in the $75 neighborhood, so take the running total to $250.

You'll need a DC power solution, some sort of ad-hoc wiring harness, and if you want to do it right, you'll need glass tape and a ground loop isolator. Add in hardware, and other expenses and you're in the mid-three hundreds, easily.

Sure, you can do it in the $200's and there are recipes out there to hit this price point but set your expectations accordingly.

Think about the time sink too, which for most is quite significant. Also, the risk of failure if things don't go your way.
 
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https://pinwoofer.com/blog/pinwoofer-pinball-diy-sound-and-audio/

Our gear is mature and well refined, with instructions and installation videos, and with an enormous install base.

It's up to the individual as to what they want to invest, the quality of the experience, and the outcome they seek for their money.

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Did seem strange in his last stream, someone brought up Foo Fighters code and Danger simply yells out FOOOOOOOOO, but doesn't acknowledge the question or talk about Foo Fighters.

Bonus points

love my Pinwoofer on Foo LE. Need to look at upgrading X-Men LE and AFMr.

I have seen that too! So close. I will hit it next time instead of draining.

Totally agree on this! Progress should be left like a jackpot payout until the next game. I like to analyze progress but all to often unless I snap a pic before launching the last ball, gonzo.

Despite the code wants and complaints, this game rips, it's just so fast and hectic, and being a fan of the band just helps you rockin while blasting away at the balls. Almost finally got my first billy, dang.

I’m not one to “mod” my machines, especially my first NIB. I installed a Pinwoofer kit for the first time in my FF premium and it’s absolutely worth the money. A tidy clean way to install it and ability to tweak the EQ. For a music pin, it’s a must for me on FF.

Some will call it sacrilege but my go-to sound upgrade of choice is to get the headphone kit and plug in a good pair of studio over-ear headphones. I do it to all my Sterns and it’s a game-changer. It muffles the mechanical sounds and really brings out the game sound.

That’s because he *can’t* talk about things that aren’t released yet, including updates.

Dan’s pricing is more than fair for plug and play and very high quality.

Jack said he can’t talk about anything. They hear us. They’ll come through. It’s just the wait

#1 thing it needs is a callout to tell you what mystery award you got from the radio targets. Very inconvenient to have to look up at the screen quickly (VERY QUICKLY) because the starburst with the award isn't on there long when a lot's happening. The only one you can know for sure is the max tractor beam, because your action button starts flashing red immediately. All other awards are...a mystery, unless you can look up quickly enough.

Look on the bright side: We may not have code all the way there yet, but the Overlord lock is the ball-eating shark that Jaws fans never got. Makes you think.

There are a lot of games with mystery awards like that and many people don't even realize they have a mystery award feature. The worst is probably Iron Man as there is NO time to look up as the War Machine kicker is kicking the ball right back at you when it shows the award.

Does Foo announce when the award is relighting the overdrive post? I was thinking I heard that one before.

Yes. That’s from a relatively recent code update

I am a big fan of pinwoofers- I have them in Deadpool, foo, and Godzilla- Easy plug and play install and they sound great to me-

Yes. When that callout was added, it automatically is triggered just by the mystery award turning it on. So it's not so much that the mystery award callouts got attention, but that another area made that particular award audible.

Godzilla is similar in it's mystery award with the maser shot, but Godzilla also usually has unique video assets with audio that play corresponding to that mystery so you can often figure out that you musta got a mystery reward for what just played as clearly you didn't make the correct shot for it.

WHAT!!?

Agree 100% and I have done this to all the Sterns I have owned as well. It is really only viable when you are playing alone though.

Indeed, though I have a couple splitters for late-night co op matches of JP, Venom, etc. those are rare, though..l usually it’s just me playing late at night when the kiddo goes to bed and the spouse is playing video games downstairs.

DeadFlip is the man! He promised and will deliver. Tanio and RayDay on code and the rest of the team... I can wait and it's going to be amazing.. to paraphrase Jack D you're gonna poop your pants

I believe he said, “you’re gonna poop… ALL your pants.”

I’m ready, Jack. I got my pull-ups on, let’s gooooooooooooo

Let the pooping begin

Please allow pooping to commence

When did he say this? Was it at release or after .99?

Diapers on and ready!

It’s in the deadflip reveal stream on YT with the LE, originally on Twitch I imagine. Relatively early on, he talks about the topper all excitedly.

Stuff related to topper is not making me poo. It's making me sad.

Cool stuff, put it in the game plz

Frankly its frustrating how only thing we have ever heard related to the future of this game for almost a year is "TOPPER!"

^^^ This. The game needs to be really fun on its own without a topper. Hopefully getting sound effects and/or callouts when mode shots are made will be a good step forward.

No game ever needs a topper to be fun. When it’s all said and done the game will be awesome.

Does anyone have any printable custom instruction cards? I checked the custom apron card thread and couldn’t see any for foo

I have not pooped in days in anticipation for this poop fest. So is the 31st confirmed?

Not confirmed. Are you going to hold it in until Wednesday?

Who said anything about an update on the 31st?

I made a cheat sheet of that thread with some instructions : https://bit.ly/sternaudio

I still plan to get a pinwoofer at some point just to compare, and also because I’m sure they rock!

I know you guys are itching for the Foo expression light (EL) kits, I remember seeing the same thing in the Rush thread. But something we had confirmed there is that the EL kits are interchangeable. You guys might be close enough to release that it is worth waiting but if you don't care about the side blade artwork or want to do something custom anyway you can pick up a set of LZ or Rush ELs and drop them in. Here's a good reference from the Rush thread of what you can do with them if you get crafty.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-rush-owners-club-1/page/212#post-7227883
But also as I had seen in the Rush thread, being close to the date when you can *purchase* them doesn't necessarily mean you're anywhere close to the date where you might *receive* them.

Get the PWer with the Expression speaker light set and there will be zero chance you’re disappointed. I really hope this 31st date has everything so the prem owners can get their light sets. I’ve had them on LZ and Rush and both were great but it blends so well with Foo and the theme it takes it up a notch. The DJ mixer is pretty cool when not playing, if you're into trippy shit.

Depending on how long it takes we may all be pooping in our diapers

Second this. It really is a great sounding work of art with the PW kit w lights and expression lights.

Thanks for sharing this. I also used the Fosi amp. The 5.25” kickers, JBL sub and Fosi amp is a huge upgrade in every way and it’s nice to spend a hell of a lot less than $400 and still achieve the sound you want

And you can get the expression speaker lights from the guys who first developed it:

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1326-ninjacamp-mods/08086-expressive-backbox-lights-kit

And it's slightly cheaper.

Happy poop all your pants day!

Edit: Wrong day. Keep holding it.

Man finally hit the red arrow aka Foo Bot and Holly poop your pants. I can't tell you how many times it had been lit and I didn't know what it was. So much fun and a milestone for sure but without someone spotting you telling you where to hit, not sure how someone is to complete. We definitely need a callout "Foo Bot activated or Foo Bot Ready to Assemble" and callouts as to which bandmember needs to get hit and "Shoot the Overlord" to get a add a ball. I am sure Mr. poop your pants aka Jack Danger powers AKA DeadFlip will come through with an excellent surprise.

Next milestone the Bill club.

Got to the last band member shot on foobot today, furthest so far...

The Ninjacamp Expressive speaker lights are also a much better implementation of the Expression lights in the speakers, as 2 - 24 bulb rings (one behind the other) match the 2 rows of 24 bulbs (one below the other) on each side of the cabinet, much better than a 48 bulb ring does.

Dammit!

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