Look great to me

1 that’s pinball. That’s 3 count drops. If tilt is set reasonable can shake it out of stuck position
2 that’s pinball, will adjust over time, or one could try to make subtle tweaks to the alignment of the plunger, possibly even add a washer underneath the rubber tip so that the plunger strikes with more force

If you’re on the fence, just get the premium. Pros will always be easier to find in the future if you ever wanted to switch to pro.

The knocker is 100% not necessary. I just really love the tactile feel of it when you get a free game. That's probably not worth the money for most people but it is for me.

As for fans, eh I'm probably not good enough to need them but I WANT to be. From reading about them, the game strikes me as about middling to upper risk for fade and we need to see more people play it, but i also want to just bash out these sorts of mods while the game is new otherwise I probably won't do it unless it gets really bad. Also, I spent a lot of my career working IT. I tend to go to needing cooling fans by default.

On the pro vs premium debate (disclaimer, I currently have a premium in my game room).

1. The fact that there is even a debate shows how much effort was put into making the pro a great machine. JD said he specifically made design decisions (like using the same playfield for all three models) so he could save money to put more stuff in the pro.
2. Yes the pro is a great machine. It should be a little faster without the upper playfield.
3. The deadpost is a wonderful pinball experience. It is NOT the same as the ball save on the pro. The deadpost is not guaranteed. Depending on the pace of the ball you sometimes have to nudge up to get it to the flipper. I’ve had several times where I released the left flipper a fraction too soon and knocked the ball back into the drain. It’s not just another ball save.
4. The upper playfield is fun! It’s a really good mix of having shots that are hittable while still not being up there too long.
5. The Overlord sculpt is fantastic. It’s a big upgrade over the stacked plastics.
6. The magnet under the Overlord has a lot of potential. Right now it only rattles the ball around underneath him in 90% of cases but it does activate when the ball is shot underneath him without locking and does fire the ball back with some extra pace. I’d like to see if they put in some sort of capture risk in future code updates where he can affect the ball path when the ball is near him.
7. Expression lights are said to be amazing per JD on this title and you can only get those on Premium models.

I got a Premium because I signed up very early for a TPF show game and felt the Premium was the way to go after the initial gameplay trailer (big Foo Fighters fan so that factored in too) and once I saw other gameplay streams I still felt it was worth the extra money. Also, I figured if I ever wanted to downgrade it wouldn’t be hard to find a pro and sell my premium.

Having played my premium last night for about 3 hours I can say it isn’t going anywhere!

Or a wife.

My Foo Pro gets delivered this morning. Let’s go!!!!!

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The bot frenzy music is fantastic! It’s an 8-bit type version of Monkey Wrench. It’s too damn cute.

I was so surprised when I heard the chiptune Monkey Wrench. That was NOT in the demo video! I love it!

Don’t need a PF protector. Ruins the feel and ball movement. Also ruins the art when it starts to bubble and lift. Also, changes the height of everything on PF, raising it compared to switches and targets etc.

Don’t do a protector. There is absolutely no need.

These games are built like tanks. Just clean and wax every 500-1000 games and you’re good. 100%

Has anyone posted a photo of their Foo in an epic lineup of rock pins?
I'm a sucker for themed lineups.(also want to see GF / PF / BL / Aliens lineup for a 20th century movie lineup)

Thinking of putting down a deposit on a Pro today. Anyone have any regrets on the machine after buying it? This would be my 6th pinball owned and first Stern.

Oh!

Making room this morning for FOO to get its spot in the game room. Which do you think was voted out (but family said keep it a little longer and move to living room)?

Foo Foo Foo….

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Turtles

For me it'd be Mando, but a lot of people dig it

NOT Godzilla? The other 3 are a toss up.

Haha thanks. As an IT guy and electronic tinkerer, one of the things I look forward to most is adding all of this stuff, so I get that and I’m far more likely to do it up front. Already going to be forever until I play the thing since I have like a ton of stuff to bolt on. Should be fun!

I’ll read more about the fade thing. I get the concept but would like to see more about the need on this actual game and also in how much the fans help to reduce it.

As for the knocker, not sure I know the difference between the new fake ones and a real one, so I’ll probably be okay. Better to not piss off the wife and dog according to other comments lol.

I'd move Mando, just because it's the only one that wasn't done by Zombie Yeti.

Right! That is home the family discussion started….

Great point!

Yeah, I've just been going mostly by this post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/godzilla-speaker-upgrade-and-flipper-fade#post-7460516

Stern seems to be prone to this problem and, from the bit I've played of FF, I think it's going to be an issue for some of the longer games (or friends and family playing without a break), but also, to be completely fair, you can probably DIY fix a good-enough solution for less than $20 worth of parts. Just grab a few small fans off of amazon, rig a mount nearby and hook them up to a 5v supply. (edit: If you want to do it right, this guy has a diagram, with the diode and 1amp resistor you need, and he hooks directly up to the 12v power supply: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/diy-pinball-flipper-coil-fans#post-6962757)

Zens just look really cool the way they're mounted on. Probably shouldn't spend the money for that, buuuuut.....

For the game coming today I have a new collection of mods I’ve made. Some have a few color options and for those playing at my house today for the home launch party, keychains and fliers (a few signed by Dead Flip) for everyone.

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stl for the overlord? You putting that in PF where it is on the premium?

That was a small test, I will print a larger one but I need to measure first and print with many more colors. Thanks for seeing that.

Does this seem too busy ? The green/blue striping taken from the back of the prem cab

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If anyone is interested in trading they’re LE for a nib FFs prem and a loaded Alien LV plus cash my way lmk and I’ll gladly pay the Pinside fee .

the pf shooter and drain's are typically hot garbage. Mylar does not protect it long. I would at minimum do a shooter lane protector.

Too busy.
Straight bright blue might be best bet

Yeah was thinking that myself after looking at it a bit .Thanks for the feedback .

They make all kinds of awesome blues and some with flake like The Beatles.

Yeah I got Robotic Blue in vein done on IMDN looks killer

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Looking for an LE if anyone knows of one? Would trade DP Premium + cash or just cash outright. I know it's a longshot, but thought I would put it out there. Thx

Dirt says I remember when I was young the only thing around was hayfarmer.

Coin Returns and Shooter Plates look great!

Thanks! I will be getting them on the Market today.

Have yet to see to any damage,
I have shooter lane protector in MET, works fine.
But I find on newer S2 Sterns, I prefer Mylar. Tried protectors and found it changes the feel also don’t like the edges created by the protector but Mylar, feels perfect, doesn’t change ball dynamics at all. And is protecting fine.

And you're older than me????

Really, you can lower the trough eject power down low enough to where the ball is practically trickling into the lane, so it’s almost like mylar is a bit overkill. But easy to add.

Not a big deal really, at all. It’s the Easiest part of pinball for me. lol. Takes 3mins to install or replace. As easy as taking the glass off.
The benefits for me are worth it.

I also used a piece on my GZ magnet plastic under Bridge, to protect and prevent breaking.

Duplicate.

Dang “Working from home” and waiting for a freight delivery truck with Foo is agony! Lol

I’m not sure what shooter coil power has been used in other games, I lowered mine to 185 from 240 and have not seen any weakness in the ball delivery. Have others gone lower?

mylar didn't stop wear on our rush/godzilla and munsters. If this is a home environment, then I suppose it would/may work for a while, but on route with 2-3k+ plays it won't hold up :/ easy enough to get one, annoying it needs it.

Oh man, my Met had the bad pf so clear was just flaking off in 250 plays :/

I have mine turned down on route all the way, which is what 175? and it for sure doesn't trickle....

GZ, rush and munsters were all 180, but I noticed on FF that it went to 175 or so.... I concur, lowering power is good but it doesn't seem like it lowers much vs default.

On DP and AIQ the adjustment starts at 64 and at least on AIQ I had to get up into I think the 140s or else it couldn't even successfully fire a ball into the lane consistently.

I have two potential Grohl mod ideas. Stay tuned.

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