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California power companies shut off power for thousands.


By cottonm4

33 days ago



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    #1 33 days ago

    Wow.

    " California's biggest utility cut power to hundreds of thousands of residents to prevent wildfires,..."

    Some people will be without power for a week. Deliberate power shut own. Can you imagine? Forget all your refrigerated food. Forget about forgetting to gas up the car and you have no gas. No traffic lights. No TV. No nothing.

    It will be no pinball for a week Without electricity and lighting you won't even be able to work on a pin.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/us/california-power-shutoff-qa/index.html

    I'd like to see some videos of this. Especially at night. All of the business signs will be dark. No street lights. It could look like something you could see on Twilight Zone. Of course, I realize that if you are in the affected area that you will not be reading this but maybe when you are back online you will have had the presence of mind to make some movies you can share.

    Possibly 2 million with no power. Imagine the hit to the economy. You can't go to work but the mortgage and car payments still have to be paid. Grocery stores are going to have to do some fancy dancing to protect their meat and other perishables. All the ice cream melts. If you don't have a pocket full of cash you might have trouble getting around.

    No air conditioning puts the restaurants out of biz for sure. No movie theaters.

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    #2 33 days ago

    Getting the heck out of this crap hole state ASAP!

    #3 33 days ago

    You have to wonder who hired these decision makers?? Thats just an asinine thing to have done.

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    #4 33 days ago

    No one will be without power for a week.its not really a big deal...
    Plenty of back up generators for stores, gas stations etc
    Don't believe anything CNN tells you...

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    #5 33 days ago

    CA has gotten bad by all the progressive policies. WE pay over $4.00 a gallon for fuel. Its time to move to TX.

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    #6 33 days ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    No one will be without power for a week.its not really a big deal...
    Plenty of back up generators for stores, gas stations etc
    Don't believe anything CNN tells you...

    Still, who wants to live in an area where there is a possibility that some decides to cut your power for however long they feel is appropriate.

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    #7 33 days ago
    Quoted from mrgone:

    Getting the heck out of this crap hole state ASAP!

    Entire Country’s infrastructure is circa 1953 or so. People don’t want to pay for 21st Century updates. Get used to potholes, bridge collapses and weather related power issues. Not just CA.

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    #8 33 days ago

    Slap me with billions worth of fines because my equipment started the last fire and I'd shut it down too.

    #9 33 days ago

    I feel sorry for these people that got the service turned off. However, this is what happens when lawsuits bill huge sums of money for something that probably was not related to the overhead lines in that area of California. PG&E is losing tons of revenue and probably does not want to do it in the first place. People in this area of California, prone to wildfires probably should invest in a generator or relocate. This is also probably not the last time this will happen unless someone takes serious action to allow the utility to operate normally.

    #10 33 days ago

    PGE stock is tanking this morning.

    #11 33 days ago
    Quoted from slicknick13:

    Slap me with billions worth of fines because my equipment started the last fire and I'd shut it down too.

    Ta da.

    What about when Enron was doing rolling brownouts to make more money?

    #12 33 days ago
    Quoted from PiperPinball:

    PGE stock is tanking this morning

    They already filed for bankruptcy no? How much more can you tank?

    #13 33 days ago

    You reap what you sow.

    #14 33 days ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    No one will be without power for a week.its not really a big deal...
    Plenty of back up generators for stores, gas stations etc
    Don't believe anything CNN tells you...

    I don't know. The thought of 2 million people and businesses having their own backyard generator belching out pollutants sounds absurd.

    I'd still like to see some night time pics of this. Looking down main street with no business signs burning.

    #15 33 days ago

    Well they've been threatening a shut off since yesterday and nothing's happened yet......I think its all BS ... I've lived here my whole life and this is the first time Ive ever been threatened with a proactive power shut down....

    #16 33 days ago

    I live right where its happening..my zip has been off the list but I know many that have been cut.
    It makes no sense, instead of pge keeping up with maintaining there equipment ( and clearing the brush around lines) , they now are cutting power.. How is this a long term solution, the winds will return throughout the weeks and months to come. The problem wont be fixed by doing this...
    Poor decisions made for a long time I suppose

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    #17 33 days ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    Don't believe anything CNN tells you...

    You win the internet today.

    #18 33 days ago
    Quoted from PtownPin:

    ....I think its all BS ... I've lived here my whole life and this is the first time Ive ever been threatened

    Same but this brew of bureaucracy has been developing for years and is now being delivered to the front door.

    Maybe folks will finally wake up to it when they can’t charge their devices.
    It’s all pretty ridiculous and potentially harmful.

    #19 33 days ago

    So what if you loose power for a day? Bfd. Atleast you still have the house/your life. Perspective...

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    #20 33 days ago
    Quoted from Cruster:

    So what if you loose power for a day? Bfd. Atleast you still have the house/your life. Perspective...

    ...as long as you have a _really_ good battery backup for your oxygen concentrator.

    #21 33 days ago

    Haha. Cali, what a joke. Please dont move though.

    #22 33 days ago
    Quoted from Cruster:

    So what if you loose power for a day? Bfd. Atleast you still have the house/your life. Perspective...

    Its a major inconvenience for people have done everything they are supposed to..pay their bill.
    If I had to shut down my business for days without power, I cant pay my employees. Thats loss of money for them and me.
    Not to mention the stores that lose refrigerated food, schools kids that now need to be taken care of bc the school is closed.
    Not to mention its something that shouldnt have to happen, and again shutting the power doesnt fix the problem, they could do it again in a month if they deem necessary..I think its ridiculous

    #23 33 days ago
    Quoted from JWJr:

    ...as long as you have a really_ good battery backup for your oxygen concentrator.

    or Dialysis machine

    #24 33 days ago

    It appears that some customers are very unhappy with having their service turned off. So much so, that they are threatening utility workers and possibly attacking them. Nothing good will come of that... Perhaps utility workers will need a security escort to enter these areas to do their job and bill that service to the customers also. See attached...
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-power-outage-frustrations-pge-office-vandalized-truck-shot

    #25 33 days ago
    Quoted from PiperPinball:

    CA has gotten bad by all the progressive policies. WE pay over $4.00 a gallon for fuel. Its time to move to TX.

    There’s nothing progressive about the power situation. Enron lobbied for deregulation and privatization. PG&E tried to give it’s execs millions in bonuses after they went bankrupt. They squandered their emergency money on bonuses. The kleptocrat Rapeublicons always fill their pockets and leave the people to suffer.

    #26 33 days ago

    It's been coming for months now. My buddy is an engineer for PG&E and he said last night that almost all of them are at work 24 hours a day right now. Sleeping on the floor, company brings them food, flying in employees to what they are now calling "the command center."

    They've already had a lot of people working 18 hour days with overtime for a while. The utility infrastructure is crumbling and they are working to fix it.

    It's a complicated situation. I work in energy and most people have no idea just how much goes into the generation, delivery, storage, and maintenance of energy and lines.

    It sucks all around. I'm in LA right now and havent had any power issues today. Hopefully power is restored soon.

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    #27 33 days ago

    What happens when public utilties are privatized.

    #28 33 days ago

    Ted Koppel wrote a book a few years ago called 'LIGHTS OUT' its a good read. Talks about after a week with no power people start to panic. After a few weeks per chaos. Electricity is up there with water and food. PG&G is a mess. Its going to get worse before it gets better in CA.

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    #29 33 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    There’s nothing progressive about the power situation. Enron lobbied for deregulation and privatization. PG&E tried to give it’s execs millions in bonuses after they went bankrupt. They squandered their emergency money on bonuses. The kleptocrat Rapeublicons always fill their pockets and leave the people to suffer.

    agree to disagree.

    #30 33 days ago

    End Result: Thousands of Californians are going to buy/use gasoline generators that have to run outside and are refilled by cheap plastic gasoline cans... likely while smoking a California joint. Seems like a great way to prevent wild fires.

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    #32 33 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    There’s nothing progressive about the power situation. Enron lobbied for deregulation and privatization. PG&E tried to give it’s execs millions in bonuses after they went bankrupt. They squandered their emergency money on bonuses. The kleptocrat Rapeublicons always fill their pockets and leave the people to suffer.

    Yea, because repubs run the state of Cali lol. Get real dude.

    #33 33 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    End Result: Thousands of Californians are going to buy/use gasoline generators that have to run outside and are refilled by cheap plastic gasoline cans... likely while smoking a California joint. Seems like a great way to prevent wild fires.

    If they don't use a propane or a natural gas generator, they will likely need to drive to an area with electricity, in order to purchase gas to run said generator...

    #34 33 days ago

    PGE is a cluster of an organization. This their over reaction to the past fires. So sad they are so inept this is the only option. Amazing that in 2019 this is their best option.

    Power outages are real. My vacation home is out and will be for some time.

    #35 33 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    Yea, because repubs run the state of Cali lol. Get real dude.

    The entire California Capitol run by Democrats. None of their policies make any sense.
    Like the recent fuel tax to fix our horrible roads. Not sure anyone likes paying over $4.00 a gallon.

    https://landline.media/california-governor-orders-fuel-tax-revenue-diversion-from-roads/

    #36 33 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Wow.
    " California's biggest utility cut power to hundreds of thousands of residents to prevent wildfires,..."
    Some people will be without power for a week. Deliberate power shut own. Can you imagine? Forget all your refrigerated food. Forget about forgetting to gas up the car and you have no gas. No traffic lights. No TV. No nothing.

    And I will also be praying for those at home on oxygen and other electric-assisted life support systems - also the hospitals, ORs, NICUs and ICUs.
    Damn.

    #37 33 days ago

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    Governor Gavin Newscum signed Assembly Bill 317 Monday, making it an infraction for companies to sell appointments to people.

    Another great law passed by our CA government. lol

    #38 33 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    Yea, because repubs run the state of Cali lol. Get real dude.

    Disasters don’t just happen on the day of. Years in the making.

    #39 33 days ago
    Quoted from jorge5240:

    PGE is a cluster of an organization. This their over reaction to the past fires. So sad they are so inept this is the only option. Amazing that in 2019 this is their best option.
    Power outages are real. My vacation home is out and will be for some time.

    Vacation home has no power. First world problems to a "T" lol.

    #40 33 days ago
    Quoted from adol75:

    What happens when public utilties are privatized.

    You can probably look at the telephone company as an example of what happens.
    You get lots of smaller companies that figure out how to run their business the best way to increase profit.
    Some people might get better service or better rates, others might not...

    #41 33 days ago

    PGE is just a poorly run organization. My family business worked directly with them for many years. Most of the time they had no clue what was going on and when they did, their main objective was only to cover their butt. That is what this move is here, it is a direct over reaction to the law suits, I mean fires that have plagued California for the last few years.

    #42 33 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    Disasters don’t just happen on the day of. Years in the making.

    And Dems have run Cali into the ground for years. Name me one other state where taking a dump in the street is the norm.

    #43 33 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    Disasters don’t just happen on the day of. Years in the making.

    and there is no reason PGE has to have overhead transmission lines. They can put them in the ground.

    #44 33 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    Vacation home has no power. First world problems to a "T" lol.

    Someone above said they didn't think the outages were real. Second it is first world problems but still all my food is going to go bad, so it does suck.

    #45 33 days ago
    Quoted from jorge5240:

    PGE is a cluster of an organization. This their over reaction to the past fires. So sad they are so inept this is the only option. Amazing that in 2019 this is their best option.
    Power outages are real. My vacation home is out and will be for some time.

    Power outages are real, I saw a bunch of people yesterday driving their frozen meat to some other parts of the town where people still had electricity.

    Quoted from Dent00:

    You can probably look at the telephone company as an example of what happens.
    You get lots of smaller companies that figure out how to run their business the best way to increase profit.
    Some people might get better service or better rates, others might not...

    Not really, telephone companies are on a competitive market, people can choose so quality of service matters. PG&E is the sole ruler of both distribution and billing.
    What we pay for right now is the results of decades of failed investments. They go bankrupt we pay for it, they lose billions in law suit we pay for it, and if they need to invest we pay for it too. But then of course if they make any kind of profit we won't get paid for it.

    Whatever the way our options as consumers are between losing and losing.

    #47 33 days ago
    Quoted from PiperPinball:

    and there is no reason PGE has to have overhead transmission lines. They can put them in the ground.

    The enormous cost of underground high voltage transmission line installation, assuming that is ever done, will likely be added to the local bills in that area. And you can bet, that cost will be more than you can imagine. Electrical service will become a luxury to those willing to pay a bill that makes a monthly house mortgage look like getting a bottle of water.

    #48 33 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    And Dems have run Cali into the ground for years. Name me one other state where taking a dump in the street is the norm.

    Wow ! What a great exemple of political impact !

    #49 33 days ago
    Quoted from PiperPinball:

    and there is no reason PGE has to have overhead transmission lines. They can put them in the ground.

    Earthquakes?

    #50 33 days ago
    Quoted from Roostking:

    And Dems have run Cali into the ground for years. Name me one other state where taking a dump in the street is the norm.

    1.) It’s not the norm
    2.) Homelessness exists everywhere
    3.) Political discussion requires critical thought, not repeating propaganda you hear from Tucker Klansman, Rush Limpballs, or Sean Hamtitties.

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