San Francisco, CA
What happens when public utilties are privatized.
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Quoted from jorge5240:PGE is a cluster of an organization. This their over reaction to the past fires. So sad they are so inept this is the only option. Amazing that in 2019 this is their best option.
Power outages are real. My vacation home is out and will be for some time.
Power outages are real, I saw a bunch of people yesterday driving their frozen meat to some other parts of the town where people still had electricity.
Quoted from Dent00:You can probably look at the telephone company as an example of what happens.
You get lots of smaller companies that figure out how to run their business the best way to increase profit.
Some people might get better service or better rates, others might not...
Not really, telephone companies are on a competitive market, people can choose so quality of service matters. PG&E is the sole ruler of both distribution and billing.
What we pay for right now is the results of decades of failed investments. They go bankrupt we pay for it, they lose billions in law suit we pay for it, and if they need to invest we pay for it too. But then of course if they make any kind of profit we won't get paid for it.
Whatever the way our options as consumers are between losing and losing.
Quoted from Roostking:And Dems have run Cali into the ground for years. Name me one other state where taking a dump in the street is the norm.
Wow ! What a great exemple of political impact !
Quoted from o-din:Does anybody really want to see this any more than they have too?[quoted image]
No one does (or I would hope no one does), but cutting power everytime there is wind or heat or any natural occurrence is not a solution. PG&E and the State of California have are fully responsible, they need to offer long term solutions.
Quoted from mrgone:Ok. Since you are not from the area, and absolutely don’t have a clue about the area or what has been happening l, you might want to educate yourself.
Pg&e is responsible for the camp fire.
As well as others in the area. As well as several gas mains exploding and killing people. Due to their negligence to properly maintain their equipment.
It is well documented.
That is exactly the truth ! And now they hold the people hostage for their own failure. And whatever the way we are screwed.
Quoted from Atari_Daze:Why not move? One can sell their home in Cali for say $800K and get the same size unit here for less than $200K. Further most companies I have worked for also keep the same pay rate (maybe a small increase) when moving so it is a no brainer.
In contrast if I tried to move to California, I would keep the same pay and have to try to afford an $800K domicile. I tried it right out of college as I was offered a job in Seattle, I lasted one year and had to return to TX.
Interesting, I just had a meetup with a bunch of people from Austin, who were saying how their neighbors were moving out because of a hike in property tax and selling to fresh movers from California !
Quoted from pinwiztom:All Californians will eventually end up in Oregon or Washington.
I thought when i moved to OR, my water bill would go down,
as it rains all the time in the NW (~50"/yr) and water should be plentiful.
Was I surprized when i got my first water bill.
During the winter it averages about $80 a month
and during the summer when I actually water my lawn, its about $180/mo.
When I lived in Bakersfield CA ( where average rainfall is about 6in /yr)
my water bill in winter was about $30/mo and during the summer when i had to water everyday
otherwize my lawn would burn up due to 90-100'F weather for 6 months
my water bill might top out at $80/mo.
Turns out in Oregon water is controlled by the cities
and its their indirect way of taxing its citizens,
thats another reason why so many lawns are brown.
Good ! Water should never be too cheap, it's a precious resource.
2 weeks later
The good side of the power shutoff. We took the kids on an improvised family trip, schools are closed anyways. Closing schools still makes no sense to me though, it’s probably the one place where no one needs electricity.
The bad side, I’m gonna throw away a good 1000$ of groceries when we come back.
These eucalyptus trees were not supposed to be in California to begin with. They are fragile and can start a fire instantly. I have so many of them around my property and they are huge. I dont even know where to start to get rid of them.
Side note, I just got home after a week without electricity, I have 30 pounds of meat and 20 of fish that can go straight to garbage. No more food hoarding in Norcal I guess.
Quoted from cosmokramer:Isnt the earth a closed system? Water gets used, evaporates, goes back into the atmosphere, falls as rain, gets used again....we cant run out of water, where would it go?
Our planet is not exactly a fish tank !
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