After the gameplay reveal today, I wonder how many posts we'll see stating that the goblin voices and call outs are irritating or that there are too many of them.

I do personally wonder how balanced it will feel in that regard, even though I do even some wacky goblin voices myself!

why would you ask this ?

No one on Pinside has an opinion about how pins are made and what should go in them !

clues and bread crumbs from the past

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/godzilla-prices-in-a-year/page/2#post-6633754

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Notice the sculpts arnt really designed to interact direct with the ball but are cool eye candy. Hopefully they are pretty durable molds to handle airballs etc.
We will see soon enough!

Your opinion. I think the game is a blast and dont play with the sculpts.

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It’s funny you mention MMr. When talking to my wife about putting a deposit down on Labyrinth, I said, “would I let a keeper go to add this game? Yeah, I’d sell MMr to make room.” We love MM, but we’ve enjoyed it a long time and seldom play it now. Labyrinth would get a lot of play.

I finally played GTF and my reaction from that brief experience was that it’s a really fun pin. I had a very long first ball, locked 3 for mb (great ball lock!) and found it to be forgiving with the center up-post that pops up for a few seconds whenever you hit the center tank targets. The ramps are clever with the diverter. I thought the custom videos and callouts were noticeably goofy. But, that’s the idea. Plus, code can improve that if that becomes a major drawback. Try one, it’s fun to play.

*oops enjoy.

Though fancy some goblin voices, would be fitting as well! I do declare!

The callouts and live action clips are all part of what I like about it - and gameplay is fun ! There’s something for everyone - this is for me !

Thanks for sharing, good context for me

Be creative or other sources of income like a barcade.

They ain't singing swimming pools and movie stars.

Yes. I've kicked around the idea of reducing the number of pinball machines and adding another pool table. My pool play post covid closings is up.

LTG : )

My wife also got excited and wanted it just from the teaser reel. I then found out that two others from my small pinball group also ordered one (both married). I love the theme myself, but it seems to attract a female audience really well.

I’m in on Labyrinth. Great eye candy but that didn’t do it for me.
Eric and Bowen on code and rules closed me.
2 extremely talented people that put out an amazing product.

I’m public service-y like that!

Agree, I had the same experience

First Ever Gameplay Video of Labyrinth Pinball, featuring Bowen Kerins at Wormhole Pinball

https://www.knapparcade.org/post/first-ever-gameplay-video-of-labyrinth-pinball-featuring-bowen-kerins-at-wormhole-pinball

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Just watched a good portion of the gameplay video. Looks like a lot of fun. Reinforced that I made good decision to preorder.

After watching the video I've lost most interest. Makes me sad but I don't think the gameplay is for me. I am still going to reserve my opinion until I put my hands on the flippers but it seems slow, fixed, and very mode focused. Watching someone else play it, it doesn't seem nearly as fun as some of my favorite pins. Lots of repeat shots, loops, right back to flippers. It looks nice and it might be a fun experience but I can't see myself enjoying this long term. I will probably hold out to see what they do in the next game unless somehow this is way more fun in person.

I'm not bothered by anything I've seen, it looks more solid than a lot of the other new machines. I just feel like it's not my kind of pin. We'll find out in a few days. Definitely a good first pin for the company. Still like the art and design.

I wish the audio was plugged in so we could hear the music and callouts better, I think the game probably has better energy that way. Looked like a smooth shooter with good flow, but felt a little 'sleepy' to me. Fav shot looked like the Ello worm shot you have to lift the 3rd flipper for, clever entry. If you love this theme and movie, I think it's great. After hearing the roar and feeling the shake from the T-Rex, maybe a lot of games will feel less intense going forward.

Looks like good build quality and excited to see what comes next from BoF. This one probably won't be for us after all, but look forward to playing it in person sometime.

i expected to see more integration with the back lcd (it’s just kind of there to show rules) and movement of the characters durring the songs (even just moving the castle part where ludo is hiding) . So much theme integration it just felt kind of flat to me.

fixable in figure code but I just expected them to lean in since they have so many “puppet actor” mechs and a back lcd screen as their main toys.

delete

Wish that video showed the game a little brighter.

time to grab a mug of coffee and curl up with a bowen video brb

Seems to shoot really well. Reminds me a lot of WPC89 era games. There's lots of flow. That orb collect shot underneath the upper flipper is an interesting one, not sure I've seen that before. The under ramp kickout is great. As is that spinner lock jackpot shot. Lots of interesting ideas here.

The biggest thing for me was that the code seemed immature, especially in terms of the screen usage. That playfield LCD should be atmospheric, used to change the feel and tone of the game, and distinguishing between modes. To me, that's a much better use of the real estate than telling me how many Labyrinth letters have been awarded. That should be sent to the top screen (and only when you get one!).

It's defo a pity about the video & sound quality, hopefully they have that sorted for the next video. Bowen having a cold didn't help either, poor guy! Not sure the main music theme fits well, seems a bit JJP plinky plonky, but it's hard to hear. The lead in music during the trailer (when the girl walks into the bar and sees the game) seems a much better fit, more 80s synthwave vibe. I assumed that was Danesis work but it may have been Labyrinth.

Looking forward to shooting it at Expo.

Same

The rollout with this company has already been more transparent and coordinated than many other manufacturers. Whether you like Labyrinth or not, package looks more polished early on than recent releases from AP and spooky.

Watching this video has made me put ordering off till I play one myself. I am pretty sure that was not the purpose

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the main background song was sleepy.

It's good to be the king. lol

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Like the ramps. More movement than I thought (good).

The video seems weird to me.... like someone is missing .... the cleaners video was like, Hoggle is all by himself, what's he doing down there? Run over him!!!! Screw that muppet!!!

Pretty pf like an early JJP game, seems more linear than a Stern (to me).
Lower screen doesn't do much (so far).

I was wondering how the songs would kick off..... I don't know what I think about that. The multiball didn't capture Magic Dance (no light show).

Very nice 1st look. Congrats BOF - I'm sure it was a lot of work.

Game looks great. Direct video and audio is now the standard for high quality streams, that would have made a huge difference here. I think this will sell very well. Maybe even sell out before Pinball Expo is over.

I can why the ladies love this theme

A lot of what i feel is missing can be fixed with code, but yeah Multi ball wasn’t exciting.

The back panel as Davey said I was expecting to change for modes to represent them and add immersion.

can’t wait to read some impressions from this weekend.

I think the screen images will be more on theme as they get further along with the code. The layout seems really solid and that is the most important thing. Cant fix it later. Heres to hoping they support their games with updates for a while after launch.

Yep UK crew also just educated me on that also!

A pretty balanced first video with things I loved and things that were not so great. Agree with others a direct feed of the LCD(s) and audio as well as better lighting on the playfield would have helped. Code is early which is no surprise. Music is good but I could see myself getting tired of hearing that rolling intro score constantly while playing. That and the light show can all be updated over time and I have no doubt will be continually dialed in. Highlight for me was that shot to the captive ball being held in the left orbit that ripped the spinner, the light show when it happened was a really great moment and gives me lots of hope for more of that to be coded into the game to make it sing. As a huge fan of the movie I have no regrets with my preorder and can't wait to see it develop further!

100 percent. The layout is solid. If there is a will here (and I think there is) this could turn out great.

Looks like nice smooth shots and fast ramps. I know its a dark theme but the middle of the playfield looked so dark I was thinking some bulbs were out.

Looks fun, and I don't care for the theme whatsoever.

I really like the super jackpot concept. Lock a ball in front of the left spinner then hit it like a captive ball to spin the spinner. I'm hoping more spins = more points. Not all super jackpots would payout the same amount. Very cool.

yeah he said that was how it worked, and he was excited to have a pretty solid shot which got a good bit of spins.

Curious if this triggers any more orders and how many orders they have so far. One guy mentioned his order number was in the 500s. Would be cool to get some more data points there. Of course people ordering accessories separately will skew it a bit, and orders through dealers.

The video was so dark! I couldn't see much of anything....

Watched Bowen's video. I think it'd be a lot of fun. Would love to have one in my basement for a while. If I'm not that lucky, maybe LTG will pull the trigger on one. It'd look real nice next to that WOZ on the back wall

I wouldn’t go by the order numbers….mine was in the 500s too and I ordered within a couple minutes of it being available. Their system probably started in the 500s. If someone ordered one today that would tell us something, but as you mentioned accessories might throw it off (but probably not much as I’d think most would order accessories with machine in one order). BSavage also said in this thread that 150 total would be sold direct, so we at least know they haven’t sold that many via the website.

Watching the video now with expectations in check. Placebo in check also since I have a pre order in place. So far I like what I see (still watching) for early code. One thing that stuck out to me was the use of code controlling the LED fans based on the mode. When Bowen was playing The Knockers, each fan lit up either solid Red or Blue (like the movie). This seemed to correspond to the targets/lights for the mode on the playfield and as shots were made the LED fans were changing accordingly. Pretty cool theme integration IMO and a glimpse of how they want to extend the experience outside of the playfield alone.

Still watching and I will agree the video stream is dark in Wormhole and the resolution on the cameras seems fine but the bitrate might be jacked? Lots of video degradation on Bowen and the playfield feeds. This can more easily be cleaned up like others said with better direct feed video paired with a soft, properly defused light box on the player in the future. Just a tip for the BOF team that might be reading this is all.

edit. Apparently new code is dropping tomorrow too? Can't wait for Expo reactions as well from real players/consumers.

I feel like at times like this it's best to discern how they should film pinball, because I don't think I've ever seen it done well. Maybe we need a action cam closeup angle with some kind of sensor on the ball the camera follows.

I’m interested. Bowen is awesome and I respect the way he was playing the game for demo purposes. Speaking about something and then being sure to only hit the shot needed to make the thing he just spoke about happen. Im assuming no one is going to play the game like that when they get it home. I would like to see him play a game at full tilt stacking friends combos, multiballs, and modes together. Had they done that for the first video no one would have any clue what was going on so its makes sense to hold off on that until later.