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#1401 4 months ago
Quoted from lasermel:

I'm getting there -- LOTS of character speech now!
For any who didn't see this post in 1313 Mockingbird Lane.....
Here's a list of all the call-outs I've changed so far. It's so much more fun to play and hear it all coming from the game! The cool thing is that the sound clips are already in the code but you do have to spend a bunch of time finding and adding notes to keep track of them.
The end of each line says when/where the sound clip is used. More to come and all thanks to Pinball Browser!

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
SoundScript,0x75E,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0553 Grandpa - Everything thats up hasta go down.wav",0,2362,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball.
SoundScript,0x75F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x044F Grandpa - What are you waiting for.wav",0,1059,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x775,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0574 Lily - I dont believe it.wav",0,711,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x799,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0530 Lily - Practice and keep at it.wav",0,1459,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D2,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0470 Lily - Im so mad I could chew nails.wav",0,2497,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D3,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0417 Grandpa - The time has come for me to depart.wav",0,2263,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D6,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x04A9 Herman - You know if you keep this up I might get very angry.wav",0,2411,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x817,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0438 Grandpa - I told you itd work.wav",0,3507,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x818,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0376 Grandpa - Nothing that happens around here surprises me.wav",0,3195,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x819,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0374 Grandpa - A little magic around here never hurts.wav",0,2514,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x81C,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x052A Grandpa - A lot of good stuff in here.wav",0,2162,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x81D,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x081D Grandpa - These are the chemicals that I use.wav",0,2563,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x841,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x044C Lily - That was terrible.wav",0,810,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x843,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0452 Lily You have goofed it again.wav",0,1543,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x84F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x041F Goodbye-goodbye-goodbye.wav",0,2730,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8CE,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0593 Grandpa - Will you be a little careful Herman.wav",0,2242,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8E4,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0558 Lily - Oh my poor poor darling.wav",0,2527,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8E6,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0284 Awwwwww.wav",0,2130,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8EC,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x056D Herman Laughing 2.wav",0,2141,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8F1,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x04E0 Herman - Im so mad I could go right thru the ceiling.wav",0,2472,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8FD,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x013A What happened- I don't know.wav",0,2406,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x775,"*Munsters sound clips\Marilyn - we all have to go sometime.wav",0,1206,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x762,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x05BC Lily - Dont just sit there enjoying the obituaries.wav",0,2779,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x15C,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x015C dragula and Herman - What a fun car.wav",0,2189,100,0,10000 Dragula race
SoundScript,0x90,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0090 Grandpa - Sparks build up -Nothing that happens around here and the machines still got bugs.wav",0,13839,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x8F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x008F Im working on my instant gasoline formula.wav",0,6548,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x91,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0091 Grandpa - Sound mix plus This is my laboratory where I work on some of my experiments and Eddie - Neat tricks.wav",0,46773,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x65,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0065 Bash toy and Herman - That smarts.wav",0,1769,100,0,10000 Hitting Bash Toy
SoundScript,0x20B,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x020B Eddie - do it again and howl.wav",0,3098,100,0,10000 Eddie loop
SoundScript,0x761,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0487 Herman - There's only one thing to do and youve got to do it immediately.wav",0,2400,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x71B,"*Munsters sound clips\Eddie - Gee I wonder where Pop is.wav",0,1416,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x6DE,"*Munsters sound clips\Eddie - here spot here spot - - -cmon Spot.wav",0,2865,100,0,10000 Instead of Marilyn calling Spot

Can you share you work when you are done.

#1402 4 months ago
Quoted from lasermel:

I'm getting there -- LOTS of character speech now!
For any who didn't see this post in 1313 Mockingbird Lane.....
Here's a list of all the call-outs I've changed so far. It's so much more fun to play and hear it all coming from the game! The cool thing is that the sound clips are already in the code but you do have to spend a bunch of time finding and adding notes to keep track of them.
The end of each line says when/where the sound clip is used. More to come and all thanks to Pinball Browser!
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
SoundScript,0x75E,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0553 Grandpa - Everything thats up hasta go down.wav",0,2362,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball.
SoundScript,0x75F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x044F Grandpa - What are you waiting for.wav",0,1059,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x775,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0574 Lily - I dont believe it.wav",0,711,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x799,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0530 Lily - Practice and keep at it.wav",0,1459,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D2,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0470 Lily - Im so mad I could chew nails.wav",0,2497,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D3,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0417 Grandpa - The time has come for me to depart.wav",0,2263,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x7D6,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x04A9 Herman - You know if you keep this up I might get very angry.wav",0,2411,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x817,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0438 Grandpa - I told you itd work.wav",0,3507,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x818,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0376 Grandpa - Nothing that happens around here surprises me.wav",0,3195,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x819,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0374 Grandpa - A little magic around here never hurts.wav",0,2514,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x81C,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x052A Grandpa - A lot of good stuff in here.wav",0,2162,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x81D,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x081D Grandpa - These are the chemicals that I use.wav",0,2563,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x841,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x044C Lily - That was terrible.wav",0,810,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x843,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0452 Lily You have goofed it again.wav",0,1543,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x84F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x041F Goodbye-goodbye-goodbye.wav",0,2730,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8CE,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0593 Grandpa - Will you be a little careful Herman.wav",0,2242,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8E4,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0558 Lily - Oh my poor poor darling.wav",0,2527,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8E6,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0284 Awwwwww.wav",0,2130,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8EC,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x056D Herman Laughing 2.wav",0,2141,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8F1,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x04E0 Herman - Im so mad I could go right thru the ceiling.wav",0,2472,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x8FD,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x013A What happened- I don't know.wav",0,2406,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x775,"*Munsters sound clips\Marilyn - we all have to go sometime.wav",0,1206,100,0,10000 When you lose the ball
SoundScript,0x762,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x05BC Lily - Dont just sit there enjoying the obituaries.wav",0,2779,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x15C,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x015C dragula and Herman - What a fun car.wav",0,2189,100,0,10000 Dragula race
SoundScript,0x90,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0090 Grandpa - Sparks build up -Nothing that happens around here and the machines still got bugs.wav",0,13839,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x8F,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x008F Im working on my instant gasoline formula.wav",0,6548,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x91,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0091 Grandpa - Sound mix plus This is my laboratory where I work on some of my experiments and Eddie - Neat tricks.wav",0,46773,100,0,10000 In Grandpa's Laboratory
SoundScript,0x65,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0065 Bash toy and Herman - That smarts.wav",0,1769,100,0,10000 Hitting Bash Toy
SoundScript,0x20B,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x020B Eddie - do it again and howl.wav",0,3098,100,0,10000 Eddie loop
SoundScript,0x761,"*Munsters sound clips\Sound-0x0487 Herman - There's only one thing to do and youve got to do it immediately.wav",0,2400,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x71B,"*Munsters sound clips\Eddie - Gee I wonder where Pop is.wav",0,1416,100,0,10000 Taking too long to shoot
SoundScript,0x6DE,"*Munsters sound clips\Eddie - here spot here spot - - -cmon Spot.wav",0,2865,100,0,10000 Instead of Marilyn calling Spot

I am curious, if the Munsters code is ever updated will you have to manually re-do all of your sound work to the new core code file or is there a quick and easy method for porting your sound changes to a new version of the core code file when and if it is ever released?

Gord

#1403 4 months ago
Quoted from GRB1959:

I am curious, if the Munsters code is ever updated will you have to manually re-do all of your sound work to the new core code file or is there a quick and easy method for porting your sound changes to a new version of the core code file when and if it is ever released?
Gord

When the changes are made, the program creates macros that can be run on a new code version. All will be restored as long as the sound addresses remain in the same memory location.

#1404 4 months ago
Quoted from rockrand:

Can you share you work when you are done.

Happy to share. Just need a server space with enough storage.

#1405 4 months ago

Just a comment. Played tonight at league and landed on my Munsters in rotation. Loved it. I do see some bugs in regular play(both having to do with Grampa's laboratory), but no show stoppers. Had some great games, and everyone was digging it. So, this is one California owner who routes and is happy.

#1406 4 months ago

Worst code ever? How about numbers 1 through 26 standing for letters A through Z ?
Of course, I never changed the default password on my home computer. It's still 1 - 2 - 3 - 4.

Quoted from ThatOneDude:

This is one California owner who routes Munsters and is happy.

There's always that one dude who thinks Munsters is fun. (Disclaimer: I do, too.)

#1407 4 months ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

There's always that one dude who thinks Munsters is fun. (Disclaimer: I do, too.)

Make that two, i love the game a lot!

#1408 3 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Make that two, i love the game a lot!

Step aside, young man, and make room for #3. I'm getting better and can now find time to look up at the score screen one in a while.

#1409 3 months ago

i dont think its a matter of being FUN (or not)

i'm a "player", and from a code point of view i know Munsters is quite empty/simple/easy/put here the word you want
but must admit i have fun when i meet & play one, dont know why, but i enjoy playing it
now, the true point (for me) is : does i want to have it home ?

#1410 3 months ago
Quoted from RipleYYY:

i dont think its a matter of being FUN (or not)
i'm a "player", and from a code point of view i know Munsters is quite empty/simple/easy/put here the word you want
but must admit i have fun when i meet & play one, dont know why, but i enjoy playing it
now, the true point (for me) is : does i want to have it home ?

There’s a lot to be said for having a choice of 2 or 3 code versions in a game - one for location, one for home and one for comp.

#1411 3 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Six or so. Let's say 10 for EZ math.
You are from Cali
So 1 from California
1) California
2) New York ?
3) Florida ?
4) Texas ?
5) Illinois ?
6) Illinois again ?
7) Oklahoma...Cactus Jack's where I played my first Pro model. And then went on the hunt for an LE.
???
9) ???
10) ???
How many ops are out there making a stab at pinball money? Have you talked to any of those guys? Or you concentrating only on the ops that agree with you that think Munsters is a POS, too?
Standard marketing dogma is that 1 happy customer will tell his happy story to one other person. And 1 unhappy camper will tell 7 other people what a POS such and such is. They will shout from the mountaintop.
So, 6 or so, are out there spreading hate and discontent about Munsters. And if they keep shouting long enough about what ails them eventually people start believing it (your last name is not T...p, is it ? ).
I am really not interested in some hate mail coming from 6 or so people. Yours is starting to sound like a fish story of the one that got away.

This game is #71 on the top 100. 71! And this is inflated with the screwed up system of ranking by LE. Even if you dislike the list, you cannot deny that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game.

The one routed near me is always empty. I've given it many tries and have told probably about 7 people how much I hate it. I doubt Vireland's sample is an inaccurate representation of the norm. The theme is too old, the PF is bare, the stand-ups are a joke, and the code is awful.

If you love the game and it makes money in your neighborhood, that's great. It's not that way around here.

#1412 3 months ago
Quoted from RipleYYY:

i dont think its a matter of being FUN (or not)
i'm a "player", and from a code point of view i know Munsters is quite empty/simple/easy/put here the word you want
but must admit i have fun when i meet & play one, dont know why, but i enjoy playing it
now, the true point (for me) is : does i want to have it home ?

I can see your point but you are also an extremely good player if I remember correctly right? If so you are going to require more code than the average player to make you happy. Munsters is meant to be like an old school simple code that is easy to understand.

I personally love the code and it never gets old to me but I also have seven other games that i can play. If it was my only game it might get old, i don't know. There are definitely a few things like marylin, Eddie, lily, and spot modes that could be improved upon and some more film clips would be nice but i hope the heart of the code remains the same.

#1413 3 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

This game is #71 on the top 100. 71! And this is inflated with the screwed up system of ranking by LE. Even if you dislike the list, you cannot deny that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game.
The one routed near me is always empty. I've given it many tries and have told probably about 7 people how much I hate it. I doubt Vireland's sample is an inaccurate representation of the norm. The theme is too old, the PF is bare, the stand-ups are a joke, and the code is awful.
If you love the game and it makes money in your neighborhood, that's great. It's not that way around here.

When I read comments like this I gotta wonder if you know and understand the rules and how to play the game. I'm not saying that you dont so dont take it that way, but I just wonder because if a person doesnt understand what they're shooting for or trying to do the game is an all out snoozefest and just feels boring to play.

#1414 3 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

When I read comments like this I gotta wonder if you know and understand the rules and how to play the game. I'm not saying that you dont so dont take it that way, but I just wonder because if a person doesnt understand what they're shooting for or trying to do the game is an all out snoozefest and just feels boring to play.

The only thing I had to really learn was zap, and it can be fun. I like cranking up the jackpots as well. These two satellite rules are the coolest part of the game. Getting to Munster madness over and over is a snoozer.

I know the game and, like Ghostbusters, just can't get into it. I've had fun moments, but that's with all pinball, except Avengers.

#1415 3 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

When I read comments like this I gotta wonder if you know and understand the rules and how to play the game. I'm not saying that you dont so dont take it that way, but I just wonder because if a person doesnt understand what they're shooting for or trying to do the game is an all out snoozefest and just feels boring to play.

And more than likely playing a pro.

#1416 3 months ago
Quoted from cooked71:

And more than likely playing a pro.

That's true. I do like the pro and I think it's a fun game but the lower playfield really does make the game an entirely different experience.

#1417 3 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

The only thing I had to really learn was zap, and it can be fun. I like cranking up the jackpots as well. These two satellite rules are the coolest part of the game. Getting to Munster madness over and over is a snoozer.
I know the game and, like Ghostbusters, just can't get into it. I've had fun moments, but that's with all pinball, except Avengers.

I love cranking up the jackpots, it never gets old to me and it's such a challenge and when you cash a big one in it's very satisfying. Trying to cash them in usually ends in failure though because I get too greedy and try to go for more. I also think this is a great tournament game because you dont score points by getting lucky on this game, you earn them.

I say leave the code alone but put in some more movie clips and redo Lily, Eddie, Marylin, and Spot modes and this game will be top notch.

#1418 3 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I love cranking up the jackpots, it never gets old to me and it's such a challenge and when you cash a big one in it's very satisfying. Trying to cash them in usually ends in failure though because I get too greedy and try to go for more. I also think this is a great tournament game because you dont score points by getting lucky on this game, you earn them.
I say leave the code alone but put in some more movie clips and redo Lily, Eddie, Marylin, and Spot modes and this game will be top notch.

I'm glad you like the game, and the premium/LE is probably better than the pro I've played. My primary point was that many, myself included, disagree about the code, and this may be why some of us are seeing it ignored on route.

I do agree about the jackpots, but it's just not enough...

#1419 3 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

I'm glad you like the game, and the premium/LE is probably better than the pro I've played. My primary point was that many, myself included, disagree about the code, and this may be why some of us are seeing it ignored on route.
I do agree about the jackpots, but it's just not enough...

I can respect that opinion totally. What I cant respect is when people say the code is complete trash or that its "the worst code ever" and wont stfu about it and make it their job in life to run this game into the ground because its simply not true. This game actually has a good code that needs a little more work but it is still a lot of fun to play if you know what you are doing.

#1420 3 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

This game is #71 on the top 100. 71! And this is inflated with the screwed up system of ranking by LE. Even if you dislike the list, you cannot deny that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game.
The one routed near me is always empty. I've given it many tries and have told probably about 7 people how much I hate it. I doubt Vireland's sample is an inaccurate representation of the norm. The theme is too old, the PF is bare, the stand-ups are a joke, and the code is awful.
If you love the game and it makes money in your neighborhood, that's great. It's not that way around here.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

Even if you dislike the list, you cannot deny that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game.

You cannot prove that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game. If you add all the posters up on this thread, maybe you might be able to tally up a vocal minority.

BTW: There are 1413 posts in this "worst code" thread. On the Munsters Club thread there are 6350 posts. On post numbers, you are already sucking hind tit.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

The one routed near me is always empty. I've given it many tries and have told probably about 7 people how much I hate it. I doubt Vireland's sample is an inaccurate representation of the norm. T

Seven is the magic marketing number related to how many dissatisfied people will trash something. So, you and Vireland have made it known to 14 others of your dissatisfaction.

I don't care what you doubt. You may as well be saying "it is my opinion". "I doubt" is about as concrete as a dirt path. So, you can tell either me for sure that Vireland's representation is accurate, or you can doubt that it is inaccurate. And you can't tell me for sure, can you; You can only doubt. Doubting is guessing; Guessing is not a debate.

As you said, you have given it many tries and you don't like it. Nothing wrong with that. I have things I don't like, too. I played it 3 or 4 times and fell in love. Here is a pinball machine I can put my coins in and get some action in return, instead of shoot-drain, shoot-drain. You have your opinion. I have mine. And as is noted the world around, opinions are like a..holes; Everybody has one.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

The theme is too old, the PF is bare, the stand-ups are a joke, and the code is awful.

The theme is too old? OK. Then I should not be expecting you to be extolling the virtues of Batman 66, correct?

The play field is bare? I like the open play field. It is the exact opposite of CFTBL which, IMO, suffers from "too much shit on the play field". And since we are going acronym nutty in this 21st Century, I will call it TMSOTP.

The stand-ups are a joke? That is your opinion, sir. Nothing more.

The code is awful? That is what the vocal minority keep harping about.

Let's run some numbers. First, tell us if Munsters is a sales success or a sales failure? Be sure to preface your statements that they are your opinions only. It is Stern's privilege to declare a sales success or failure. Stern is the only outfit to have its finger on all of the relevant information. You, me, and all other are just guessing.

How many pins does Stern have to sell for said pin to be a sales success or sales failure? Got a number?

On Pinside, 393 people own a Munsters. 258 have one on their wishlist. And there are 267 public places to play Munsters.

How many people own a Munsters that have nothing to do with Pinside? How many people who have nothing to do with Pinside have a Munsters on their wishlist?

Between you and Virland's "6 or so" OPs who are having bad luck on route, there are 267 public locations where Munsters can be played. "6 or so" out of 267 is not a very large number. Matter of fact, "6 or so" amounts to just around 3% of the 267. 3% of anything is a weak argument. And that is where the vocal minority on this pin is at. A weak argument.

Now, if Vireland had come back that he had been communicating 30-40% of the ops around the country I'd say maybe there is something to it. But 3%? 3% is nothing.

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#1421 3 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

... if I remember correctly right? If so you are going to require more code than the average player to make you happy...

yes, good point here

#1422 3 months ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

You cannot prove that a majority of folks on here clearly see problems with this game. If you add all the posters up on this thread, maybe you might be able to tally up a vocal minority.
BTW: There are 1413 posts in this "worst code" thread. On the Munsters Club thread there are 6350 posts. On post numbers, you are already sucking hind tit.

Seven is the magic marketing number related to how many dissatisfied people will trash something. So, you and Vireland have made it known to 14 others of your dissatisfaction.
I don't care what you doubt. You may as well be saying "it is my opinion". "I doubt" is about as concrete as a dirt path. So, you can tell either me for sure that Vireland's representation is accurate, or you can doubt that it is inaccurate. And you can't tell me for sure, can you; You can only doubt. Doubting is guessing; Guessing is not a debate.
As you said, you have given it many tries and you don't like it. Nothing wrong with that. I have things I don't like, too. I played it 3 or 4 times and fell in love. Here is a pinball machine I can put my coins in and get some action in return, instead of shoot-drain, shoot-drain. You have your opinion. I have mine. And as is noted the world around, opinions are like a..holes; Everybody has one.

The theme is too old? OK. Then I should not be expecting you to be extolling the virtues of Batman 66, correct?
The play field is bare? I like the open play field. It is the exact opposite of CFTBL which, IMO, suffers from "too much shit on the play field". And since we are going acronym nutty in this 21st Century, I will call it TMSOTP.
The stand-ups are a joke? That is your opinion, sir. Nothing more.
The code is awful? That is what the vocal minority keep harping about.
Let's run some numbers. First, tell us if Munsters is a sales success or a sales failure? Be sure to preface your statements that they are your opinions only. It is Stern's privilege to declare a sales success or failure. Stern is the only outfit to have its finger on all of the relevant information. You, me, and all other are just guessing.
How many pins does Stern have to sell for said pin to be a sales success or sales failure? Got a number?
On Pinside, 393 people own a Munsters. 258 have one on their wishlist. And there are 267 public places to play Munsters.
How many people own a Munsters that have nothing to do with Pinside? How many people who have nothing to do with Pinside have a Munsters on their wishlist?
Between you and Virland's "6 or so" OPs who are having bad luck on route, there are 267 public locations where Munsters can be played. "6 or so" out of 267 is not a very large number. Matter of fact, "6 or so" amounts to just around 3% of the 267. 3% of anything is a weak argument. And that is where the vocal minority on this pin is at. A weak argument.
Now, if Vireland had come back that he had been communicating 30-40% of the ops around the country I'd say maybe there is something to it. But 3%? 3% is nothing.
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