Congrats, you just saved them time and money by making their cabinet art for them (i mean posting it).

Nope! He’s gone out of his way about 8 times to tell us he’s a brand new pinsider so there’s no way he’s already been here several times under different names.

but tell me it wouldn't make more sense

I just created my first ever thread on pinside to discuss.

No idea yet, lol....
( haven't played it yet...hoping it's a keeper..who knows?)

Ice, and I say this as respectfully as I possibly can, it’s not for you dude. It’s part of that world you don’t know and don’t want to know.

I concur… and did Keith Elwin happen to design Cosmic Carnival?

He did not. Nor did he design Big Bang Bar.

Big Bang Bar was designed by Rob Morrison. Ever heard of him?
Well now you have and BBB was the only game he ever designed.

It would appear we are dancing… though I am uncertain of the tune or step?

I apologize if my reply seemed snarky. I simply meant it as a counter to your comment of Elwin designing Cosmic Carnival, which we both already knew he didn't.

I expect it to be 10x the game. A silver ball and two flippers made by a bozo off the street would be more fun than Halloween!

welcome to 20 pages ago!

yeah investors expect a return on their investment - shocker. I know its a dirty phrase here on pinside but making money is what nearly every company in the world was setup to do.

oh I know what car George drives and its a lot more than 40K!

Neil.

I suspect you thought my initial post was attempting to state that somehow people dropping their orders would result in somehow result in prices skyrocketing above what the current sale price is? It wasn’t.

Am I a little snarky/salty myself when I post in this thread? Yep. Though the tone and attitude toward this game and anyone who purchased it in here has been pretty well-established by this point, so I won’t belabor that point and whine about it… just establish the fact that snark is probably going to be a common ground in here.

Would make the cut for the dick-swingers in our hobby. You know, the guy that has owned BBB and an original CC. Has nothing but high end LE's in their collection, regardless of title. Likes to brag about collection and everything else they own, cars, house, cigars, $500 bottles of whiskey, Rolex collection, etc.

no you blame the manufacturers, like you should. They are the ones price gouging your groceries. And many for no reason. They saw someone else, being able to charge 300% to 400% more for an item, and they jump on the bandwagon. Many things that went up in price 33% or more, is completely unjustified. They try to blame trucking costs. but now that gas went down, I don't see any of those 300% price hikes dropping. They are full of shit and cashing in while they feel they can. Just like stern.

This is too easy, but I'll be nice.

No please, if it is so easy for you to explain… by all means, continue… I insist. Spare no feelings here.

So if "making money" is not an issue then Mando toppers are reasonably priced? Wonder how the employees feel about getting paid f all. Hmmm what other cost cutting implementations could we bring up?? Hmm lets make the products worse and make kickbacks and reply knockers obsolete so improve the bottom line, for example.

Yeah, it really is totally inappropriate to say this kind of stuff.

New low for this thread.

The day is young. If the price doesn't hurt, then I think you'll survive a few metaphors. It is essentially what 90% of of the people are saying for the whole thread.

EDIT: Oh I see, so now who are the whiners. Yeah. That pretty much sums it up.

Who are the whiners? About your inappropriate now deleted post? Or…?

Nah it's cool. It really fits the theme. I'm used to it around here.

Stop whining!

That's funny... I saw that short vid of the 60th SLE at the show, the one showing the topper in action. And the replay "noise" went off. What a joke $tern can't (or more accurately WON"T) afford a real one.

You and Snaroff got it wrong man. I understand if you don’t care for it, but saying the game sucks makes you appear to be neophytes. Whatevs.

This is what I'm looking forward to:

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Metaphors are fine.

I just think using the word 'rape' out of context is pretty insensitive.

But, hey, maybe I am too sensitive.

most of us figured out that wasn't cool 20 years ago

Yeah but most of us haven’t been driven absolutely insane by a pinball machine that is for sale.

There’s about 5 or 6 dudes who have truly been driven over the edge by Bond 60th.

I also want to (once again… FFS) address this comment: why would this price NOT hurt? As I have stated a couple times now, it is ludicrous how much it cost… and it is a lot of money to me. Yet I still made the decision.

Your fanaticism about my choice is the real crazy part here.

60th buyers…

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It's not a straight forward answer. On one hand, you need to stop taking peoples' comments personally. No one is going to justify your purchase for you other than others who bought it. As I told you before, I hope it's great and you love it. If you want it, so be it.

However, on the other hand, many valid points have been brought up about supporting this endeavor and how it will impact the future. As has been mentioned, this didn't start with this particular game, but it represents where things are and where they are going. I think many are taking this game as the absolute context, but it isn't. This has been building with each and every release and topper as prices are raised. As I stated before, I am not a Bond fan, this game probably isn't for me regardless of price, but precedents are being set and that is something those in the hobby are concerned about.

There's not really more to say that hasn't already been said.

In other news, you're welcome for apparently directing peoples anger elsewhere for a few posts.

Yea, Snaroff played it in an arcade, and had #10 boxed. He and whats his face played super early code and are actually clueless when it comes to this. Their thoughts on the current status are irrelevant.

Hmm....I know they say Iowa is 2 years behind everyone else, but I've been around the block enough to disagree with this. It's a pretty common context.

no, it was common. twenty years ago. mostly among 15 year olds playing xbox

EDIT: n/m apologies for offending anyone. Wasn't my intent to begin with so I'll let it go.

Of all the fucking hills to die on.

Dude. Take the L. You are really trying to take the entire great state of Iowa down with you?

This whole thread should take the L and go away, from the $20K single level ugly-ass $tern to all us losers with nothing better to do than post the same shit for 88 pages. Me included.

OK...one more round. The success of Halloween and Ultraman isn't an opinion...it's a fact that is backed up by what the game is selling for. Isn't that obvious?

Since Spooky's NIB prices are extremely fair when compared with JJP/Stern, there is no other explanation, dude. Don't get me wrong, Spooky builds a great pin for the money...their problem isn't the BOM, it's the design and software. Stern and JJP have better software tools, programmers and designers. That's also a fact, with the exception of Scott Danesi who is contracted by Spooky on occasion. I respect that Spooky is trying to grow organically and give some newbies a shot...it just has consequences. Rick and Morty is a masterpiece...I'm certain Spooky will produce another masterpiece, just isn't Halloween (which commonly sells for 7k vs. R&M selling for 13k). THATS ALMOST DOUBLE, because some people have taste. I realize you own the game, which makes it hard for you admit the pinball community has decided it's a dud. It's perfectly ok for YOU to like it. I "defended" WH20 for MANY years when folks loved to hate it. Eventually, WH20 received the respect it deserves. Maybe one day that will happen to Halloween/Ultraman! I'd like nothing more than for your baby to be loved by more pinballers.

Yeah, I can't relate to the braggadocios dick-swingers Full disclosure...I did own a HEP CCC because it fell into my lap. Nice to look at and play for a few months...not my cup of tea. Very basic game with pretty simple shots. The theme did nothing for me.

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Thanks mate, noted. Over on the UK pinballinfo forum swear words get starred out, for example over there Neil is often called a **** or a ******* ****.

God Bless America. We are heading to AI censorship too.

Cause adults get triggered by typed words lol.

Playes Bond Pro again today. I feel this is the real winner of the bunch, but lets see what the Prem and LE bring.

So on the * count...... assuming that will be Prik or a fcuking twat??

I wish they would! it would make the place a lot more boring than the funeral parlour it is with the most exciting post of the year being my only post for months!

Oh and on your other point, a fucking blind man with his cane can see what's happened to prices. Do you live in a cave or something?

Lumber prices...
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oh and 36.

Umm where is 2021 and 2022. ? Lumber is way down. I suspect pinball will have to follow closely behind but I know the pinball.companies don't think so !