Afm and mm are both awesome and my favorite pins to play . Not super deep but deep enough and very hard to master if set up correctly. Both have easy objectives and both have not so easy objectives. Afm has the better code imo over mm but both are very similar. Afm is faster , has more flow and is also more difficult imo. I have yet to beat mars and rule the universe after tons of games on it. I think alien will be a cool game but im gonna wait a bit while things get worked out and it becones a proven title. It has potential but still needs alot of things fixed imo. Put some time on afm and mm and i think u will see y they are so popular.

If you have owned any pin for a while they can get boring after years of play . Has op owned eaither mm or afm before? If not than both wld be great choices to have in a collection and wld be new to him? . Ive played afm more than any other game since ive got it and its still my my favorite . Got mm few months ago and its great also . Brand new pins are great also but still have alot of unknowns and things that need worked out.

Will see if it stands test of time..... of course anything new(with good theme) is gonna be popular against 20 year old stuff that many have allready owned. But if you have never owned some of the 20 year old stuff the feeling can be just as awesome bc its new to that person. I like alot about the alien pin but it definitely needs some work imo particularly the lack of action with the pops and slings and some other things need worked on also to make it play alot smoother. Ill wait for a bit untill all the bugs get worked out but the basis for a good game is there.

Not to argue with your opinion but afm and mm nearly have the exact same layouts.....and definitely isnt anything like hobbit? First ive ever heard of any of this.....

I have a tz and have had it a fairly long time . Its fun with alot to do but it plays way different than fan layout games. I personally like fan layouts better and afm is one the best at it. I think alien will be similar to tz with the widebody, 4 flippers and the way the modes work. Try and go somewhere and put some time in on afm or mm and i think u will enjoy the difference between the way they play compared to tz. Having 2 totally different style pins im a collection will help things not get stale as fast. Good luck