Fully agree. The standard is still awesome but like you said for $500 more you do get a lot of extras that for the price difference makes it a good value.

If they have to sell some standards during this time to be successful long term I think that's well worth it for everyone in this hobby. What JJP is doing is not easy by any stretch and its very impressive they have come so far. Just think about starting a new pinball company during a time when many people thought it was not possible. Then think about setting out with the goal to make the best pinball machine ever, make it on a wide body platform which was last done 20 years ago, say you are going to make it a loaded game with new tech and then deliver on that with your very first machine. In the words of Darth Vader...lol.

A big disappointment? Far from it. Nearly every review and impression for the game is great and it's build quality is better then anything we have seen for a pin. What's surprising is the high number of positive reviews the game code isn't even close to being complete. 26" LCD, 5 magnets, 5 flippers, two mini playfields, wide body, stereo sound, crystal ball with LCD, cleared screen printed cabinet, oh and Keith doing the code... damn! The wait will be well worth it for myself and other buyers.

If I wanted to I could go have decals made for my ACDC Premium that looks like a BIB along with a powder coat job and could be done...it will never be an ACDC LE though and demand the same money or be rare. WOZ LE comes with powder coated parts, unique topper, unique apron with LE plaque, signed certificate, plus the shaker and invisiglass. If I bought a standard now it would cost far more to make it look like an LE then just waiting another month or two for my game at this point. What's awesome with WOZ standard is that it's still the same game with no gameplay differences. The stainless steel parts on WOZ look pretty sweet too! I wish I could afford both models and put them in different areas of the house, lol.

Thank you Jack for your positive thoughts. I would say that 98% of Pinside is supporting JJP and wants to see the company succeed. Why there are several haters who really knows but the quality, complexity and fun factor of WOZ stands on its own. What you and the team have done is very impressive. JJP set out to make the best pinball machine ever and in my opinion you guys have done it!

2NDGEN,

Thanks for the write up, that was a very interesting read especially from the viewpoint of an operator.

Well, I bought a NIB ACDC Premium yet also have a WOZECLE on order and I'm a big supporter of JJP. People are excited about WOZ as its bringing a lot of new things to pinball, is complex, is the first wide body in 20 years and have Keith and Ted working on the code. Everyone from JJP has been on top of all issues which is great to see to the point that production games going out today are coming with changes in place. Nearly every review and impression has been positive with many people saying its the best pin they have played. Why is it that some people come off like they want JJP to fail? Its in the best interest for every fan of pinball for JJP to succeed. The game is already proven, JJP has delivered and yet some haters refuse to accept that and will continue to do so no matter what the state of the game is...kinda sad.

Games are being produced and being shipped and have been for several months.

People are getting their games...Games are being made and produced every day. There are dozens of positive reviews.

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