The Hobbit
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I don't see the Black Arrow SE as a 'better version' - just different. Some like the LE, some like the Smaug SE, and now people can buy this SE version if they prefer it over the LE version. The Smaug SE won't be made anymore except to fill older orders, so the Black Arrow SE is the option now for new buyers (unless you find a distrib that still has a Smaug SE or a used Smaug SE)
Quoted from o-din:I think for the most part people are misinterpreting what an LE is. It is a limited edition of the game with a particular package. They could make 5 different LEs of the same machine and it wouldn't really matter. and what one company classifies as an LE is certainly not what another company has to do.
Agree. The Hobbit only has one 'LE', and two 'SE' (Special Edition) models (Smaug ang Black Arrow), and a Standard (which I think has the same cab art as the LE)
You get 'credit' for starting beast multiball (and don't have to finish it - not sure if you can really). My thoughts are that you can't start beast multiball when in Smaug multiball. If you start smaug multiball in beast multiball then the beast multiball is canceled.
My 2 cents.
Quoted from DrJoe:Beast frenzy DOES stack with Smaug multiball, and seems to most times for me. And no, you can't "finish" beast multiball without draining to one ball remaining (and thus ending Smaug multiball too). This, to me, is not good. Throw a mode into the mix, and it's a flail-fest. I hope this aspect of the game changes with future updates. When trying to kill Smaug, you should be able to focus on that task alone imo.
Sorry my post was confusing. I meant that I wish it would work like I was detailing - not what it is doing with the current code
Quoted from Rarehero:Sorry to quote myself lol....but just played another game and noticed Gandalf does sometimes say "Shoot the bumpers" or "shoot the left ramp!" ...so, hopefully they can implement that into more modes or more often.
I was about to respond that there are dwarf hit callouts and animation, and we do have Gandalf callouts like shoot left ramp, right ramp, bash the spider, hit the orc...
More is always welcome. 
Quoted from Rarehero:Speaking of catching on quickly - I thought for sure I wouldn't get a grasp of the rules and logic quickly...it was very overwhelming at first...but after reading up on it and having a few people explain things to me...it's all clicked quicker than I expected. I don't understand any of the scoring nuance yet - but I feel like I mostly understand why everything does what it does...and once you get that, the fun factor increases greatly!
I am far from memorizing the feeder modes (if that is the right term) - when I get them by accident it is still a cool feeling.
Quoted from Rarehero:I've heard that thrown around...what exactly is a feeder mode? I know there are modes that are available from Dwarf, Man, Elf, Radagast, Gandalf, and Bilbo ...which are feeders and why are those different?
Apparently some modes have feeders - as part of the story in order of occurrence in the book/movie. If you complete those modes first (feeders) it will add a mode finish percentage increase to make the mode completion worth more points. (I think)
On the backglass LCD when the mode completes it will show the feeder modes for the completed mode. So you have to look fast. I am not sure of any other way to determine them in advance. Perhaps someone on pinside will add that to the 'rules/modes' list (of which there are many)
Quoted from Cornelius:I was down on the upper right flipper too at first, but now that I'm more familiar with the game, it's starting to make more sense. Some things it is used for:
*Hitting the Dwarf targets after the ball rolls out of the Bag End pops - it's how you kick a barrel over
*Hitting the captive ball between the ramps
*Hitting the ELF targets (it's not easy, but it's a lot easier than trying to hit them off your bottom right flipper)
and most importantly
*Killing Smaug! Although many others have observed, you can also get off the killing blow from the lower flippers.
I use it for the right vuk shot too if time is running out and I need that shot!
Quoted from cyw6850:It's not as clear - from the playfield and audio what I need to do to build towards long term objectives.
It is clear to me - however, it is difficult to do. 
Quoted from pinlosopher:Amen. The mini-screen page turning thing is clever and all but the mini screen is not particularly useful, which is a shame because it sure could be. It could really, really improve the game - and more people would like it - if it did more than tick off seconds and list modes as they cycle by. I would go so far as to say it would sell more games.
What would you suggest?
Quoted from Skyemont:I too have done this one time. I thought i broke the pin.. LOL
I haven't yet
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