I watched them play pinball at the Expo tournament and Mr Sheats seems to be way better player, he would twist and turn and a rather large crowd gather behind him to watch. I was waiting on the Exhibit hall to reopen and Keith was on the machine next to him while he was playing ACDC. Lyman put up 192 million and only had just a little over 1 million after the first ball. I have only scored 127 million after having machine for over 4 months. I think they are both excellent at pinball work.