pretty obvious that this roll out without a price was just so Stern can see the reaction and adjust as needed prior to the 6th.

They try to milk it for all they can and hoped people would jump. No details on real price and just 'leaked' stuff, lol.
Then they get guys like FUN to come on here and try and hype that it is super limited and half will be going overseas. "get it now, before it is gone" bs

at PRO pricing I would CONSIDER one for route, but any more and it is not an option.

Just too many other/ better and more recognized licenses for route if you are doing smart business.
If you go on route the general public playing pinball is more of the 25-45 range and not as many 50+
Sure Beatles is recognizable to the younger generations but they are not the core.

Put a Beatles next to GOTG, DP, SW, DI, ACNC, pretty much any newer release and those games will get played equal if not more. Given that, Beatles needs to be priced the same to even be in the running. Esp with so many classics that are proven to do better and so many other new games coming out.

Dollar for Dollar if this is price at AP or JJP prices then Beatles is bottom of the barrel on that price bracket.

8k for Beatles I thought?

I can assure you that DI has done surprisingly well and for the duration.

JJP pins have proven to be consistent earners on route. Hard to justify the price tag up front but they earn their keep (Hobbit dropped off and left, but there is a reason both Woz and DI are still around )

interesting, where did you hear this?

If we did get one, you can be sure of a Launch party, they are a good time! (and we have 2 official Stern Army locations so makes sense)
I dont see it though as the prices I have heard are 8k for Gold and that aint happening.

If distributors really do have leaway with pricing on this one and no bottom, then it may make sense for them to buy the 10 pack and sell the diamond for 25k to offset the pricing on the golds to push them along.

As I said, at Pro pricing then it would be a contender for my personal money to put on route. Anything more and I would buy many other titles in advance.

It does, but Geoge Gomez just complains about how expensive drop targets are, LOL.

Are these even controlled drops?

curious, do you hobby operate? just trying to frame if your opinion is based on doing it your just a WAG?

My experience after over 5 years is that this is not the case.

We REALLY need to stop with hit BS line. Stern has you hook line and sinker if you think 1964 is limited in any way! Even their absolute best games only sell around 2000 games (and that is when they have PRO pricing on the base model).

Take a comparable grade A title like SW. It had 3 model and the pro, pre, le price points. It has more mass appeal for route and the generation that plays on route. It still only sold <2000 copies by all account (being VERY generous you can simply double the number accounted for on Pinside and compare to other tracking sites).

Simply put a GREAT blockbuster title for Stern with 3 price tiers of Pro, Prem, LE only sells around 2000 games. A really good one may do 2500 games over a 3 year period with multiple runs and re-runs.

1964 is not limited and esp so at 8k for the base model.

well, compared to other titles which sell themselves I would say it is a pretty clear indicator of how bad sales are.

When a title is hot, people are calling their distributor.
When a title is not, the the distributor has to attempt to drum up sales.

I was cold called by a distributor I have never bought a game from asking if I was interested in Beatles. It was odd and telling to me.

serious question? Are you now employed by Stern or have an application in?

First you come with the hype beast and now that the majority of Pinside has shared their opinion on the game/pricing you are in deflect mode.

It is honestly very odd how you are acting now and seems like such a dramatic change that there must be an underlying reason. You are such a huslter and a smart dude, that you seem to have a motive behind most things. This stance on Beatles seems very purposeful for you.

I honestly dont think that we or me personally will be getting a Beatles.

I would consider a nice Seawitch TBT, and can promise that would do better that either game dollar for dollar

I am hopeful that the rumored pricing is all just a tester and Stern comes out with PRO pricing on the gold edition. At least then the title could enter the conversation (I love the Beatles as I grew up with them playing in the house on the reg, so would be a cool title if the price made sense)

You are assuming $1 per play of course and 50% split with bar. Dont forget taxes and upkeep costs plus your time

Only 825 hours of constant play (at 3 min avg game time; std replays/matches.) Then add in for parts to be broken, time, etc... that will happen during that 825 hours and more like 1000 hours of constant play to pay it off.

20,000 plays...

LOL

you obviously have not maintained a Stern with drop targets. They have issues with single drops. I can imagine how the likely controlled drop target banks have been cost cut into a maintenance nightmare... PLan on just repinning all the connectors form the get go and replace all the plastic shelfs with the correct ones if you are gonna route it.