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Houdini: Why so many for sale?

By JoinTheCirqus

5 years ago


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#14 5 years ago

Houdini has a few tighter-than-average shots. Some weaker players struggle with those shots and instead of being motivated to improve they sell the pin. Some go as far as to blame the pin for their lack of aim by saying the geometry is broken. Probably best those types get a Monster Bash instead.

Maybe Ericpinballfan is onto something with his instant gratification generation remark.

Personally, I really enjoy pins with some extra-challenging shots, including Houdini. Who wants a pin with no challenge, where Grandma can step up and roll the thing? Apparently lots of people.

Think about which you camp fall into and choose accordingly.

#19 5 years ago
Quoted from Ilushka85:

Well if we think about the market of home use and people who will play on location and exclude the pros from it that means that 90%(rough estimate) of people who will flip a pin are terrible (like me) but still enjoy flipping. So if a game is not designed to make things happen for that 90% then that 90% will not play it on route and those that buy it and fall into that category will also sell it. This game is probably a lot of fun for people that are fantastic at pinball, but the vast majority of people are not great at pinball nor will they ever be great.

Good point, but there are some neat things that even beginners can easily trigger, like Seance multiball, or starting a stage act. Then there's other things, like locking 3 balls in the trunk, which definitely require some skill. Just a bit sad to see so many who would rather dump it than stick with it as they improve.

On the other hand if one finds it to be truly un-fun regardless then they should dump it.

#55 5 years ago
Quoted from ectobar:

Local op who runs an hourly rate place with 60+ pins has one. When new games come in they are set to coin drop.
Direct quote from him: "Nobody played it when it was on coin drop and it's still barely getting any plays now that it's in free play."
It's currently for sale.

Interesting. The one at our location earns steady. People dig it.

Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

But it takes a lot of tinkering to get it right, and that will never happen on location.

Wasn't an issue for us. Played well right out of the box.

Why is it people tend to conclude based on a sample size of 1 that it must be the same everywhere? Audiences vary at each location. Pins will fare differently at each location. An operator north of me said Aerosmith was a turd for him. At out location is was quite popular and earnings were above average.

#61 5 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

what's the build date on the location game? Maybe they sorted things out on later games - all of the ones I've played were in the first 20 made

Oh. Not sure, but not in the first 20.

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