If the cost to get another manufacturer out there making games is that the first 2 or three are pre pay then I'm on board and have done my part. Beyond that it does get a little tough though. Even stern is pre pay to some degree if you want an Le though. Lots of sterns had deposits on them before the game in completion was seen. That said it didn't take 3 years for the owners to get em

just to be clear though there would be no jjp or WoZ or hobbit or game three without that model. Maybe not repro's either. I know there is lots of negativity on jjp right now. Some founded and some....honestly don't know why, but think there are a few posts asking if we're better of with or without jjp so won't rehash. I'm in the camp that firmly believes better off.

Apples to oranges, but think you made that point yourself.