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Who Here Likes Premier/Gottlieb?

By Pinball-DOOD

7 years ago


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#79 7 years ago

I like some of them. I would say that Robo War, TX, Alien Star, Deadly Weapon, and Star Race are my favorite ones. I also like Black Hole but never enough to own one.

I had a Hollywood Heat, Sinbad, Joker Poker, Victory and a Stargate and thought those were all VERY good games too, but I eventually moved them along.

I guess they are all just too similar to hold my interest. Hell, more than half of them were designed by my favorite pinball designer.

I still have Alien Star and quite honestly for what it's worth, it has the best 80's space theme, sound and graphics for any pinball from it's time.

I will never sell my Fast Draw. I've had it for over 10 years now.

#98 7 years ago

Drop catch and dead bounce is much less pronounced on a Got. As a player, you just have to adapt.

It is there for certain on rebuilt Got. mechs. I know most will not agree with the following modification but I always stick the longer plunger stops in the GOT flipper assemblies so that they don't go up to the sky.

Also on a side note, Genesis and BOP were both by my favorite designer... shouldn't be that much of a shock, given the themes involved.

#153 7 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

The thing is, you don't *have* to compare them to B/W stuff. The games aren't competing against each other in the arcade space anymore, so it doesn't really matter.
Just take the games as they are and enjoy them for what they are. If they are better or worse than a different game from the same year, it doesn't really matter at this point.

I agree. This thread has nothing to do with B/W games.

#156 7 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You - and many others in this thread - are confusing the 70s and 80s with the 90s. Gottlieb games of the 70s are fantastic. Even their late 70s SS games are good - the only issue is that they were just EMs with digital scoring which seemed pretty sad and out dated compared to what Williams and Bally were putting out at the time.

Me confused? I don't think so. The thing that I find confusing is why someone is jamming up the thread with B/W cheerleading, where it clearly doesn't belong. Makes about as much sense as mentioning Data East or Capcom.

#164 7 years ago

It's fine and all. I welcome thoughtful posts all the time. Likewise, I'm not over in some B/W thread trying to explain why Stern or JJ machines have better draw and take in more $. That is so far removed from the title of the thread, it makes little sense. If the logic involved goes something like "I don't like Premier/Gottlieb because they don't offer the same features as a B/W from the same era." then, I don't have any issue with that post at all. That's just not what happened though.

I just don't see it's purpose in a thread such as this, other than to bash and hate. People's opinions and preconcieved notions of reality don't change with posts on an internet forum. Sorry, but that's just the way of the world and human nature.

#167 7 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Norros, Tanzer, & Trudeau are the best designers of the 90s....continue

Ok, I agree about Trudeau. Just think if he had a B/W budget to work with instead of the bare-bones Got. one he had for years... Oh wait, that's exactly what happened. Boom!

If Got. games stunk so bad, why would B/W hire one of their game designers to work for them-->

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