Quoted from too-many-pins:
Joe - PLEASE keep trying even if you post this a couple more times I think it just shows you are making every attempt possible to be at the show. I have never even walked over and played one of you machines at a show (typically I have too much going on at my booth) but I know a ton of people really appreciate you bringing machines to the shows. People that have never set up at a show don't realize the work & expenses involved. Thanks for supporting our local shows and you will be missed if you are not able to secure enough sales to justify the cost. But I know Rich understands and you also need to do what is best for you.
The main thing is keep trying as long as you can - people visiting this site will not mind if you bump this a few times if that is what it takes to get your machines to the show!
Thanks Again!
Skip
Thanks Skip -
I have a wedding on Saturday so I have to leave Friday - and that's not even a big deal as I did make the plans well in advance to hire my delivery guys back in August to be able to take over when I have to leave Friday - these guys changed their work schedules to be available, but of course that adds a cost - pay, hotel, gas, meals, etc... But that's done and totally fine. Cost of the show or doing it really isn't the issue here as even if I pre-sell some stuff I'm absolutely going to lose money but very willing to do that to support the community and show. It's really a bad timing situation for me and the schedule of game reveals from my companies.
Most importantly the hurdle is right now the timing is such that unusually this year even with all the companies I represent we really don't have anything brand spanking new to bring to sell which causes several issues :
I don't even have a lot of show games in stock right now of some of this older stuff most that has been out / for sale / revealed over a year ago - WOZ, AFMR, MBR, Houdini, Oktoberfest, Dialed In, ACNC, Thunderbirds, P3, and VP Cabs... Due to timing of the show and the current release schedule of all my companies only WW was revealed even in this current year and that was 6 months ago... The issue that creates is that most of the inventory I have has been sold and when something gets old I don't keep restocking in house as the sales slow down so I don't get stuck with things - I have to manage cash flow. Having $ 250,000 of stock that doesn't move isn't a good business decision. So, the problem with this is not only am I discounting show games around $ 500 or whatever I am allowed to do by the companies and losing that margin, I have to now SHIP everything in JUST for the show (at my cost I'm not passing on to customer) so add about another $ 300 per game or so. We don't have big margins on these things and in most cases that right there is a loss for me even if I sell it. Again, WILLING to do it to get them to the show if at least I don't have to drag them home and can replace most of my out of pocket cash flow I expended. BUT the math is at $ 8,000 plus a game - even if I just get one of each or about 7,8,9 of them that's like $ 60,000 - $ 70,000 or more I have to shell out of pocket right now and maybe be stuck with for months on end until they eventually sell. Older games are harder to sell as everyone wants the latest stuff, open box games are harder to sell after a show as people usually spending that much want NIB. It is really just bad timing. If some of this stuff was newer then I'd have stock like I always do, no shipping concerns, and I wouldn't worry one bit about then selling even later after the show, but right now it's a really situation where I can get hurt and affect my business well into next year if I blow my cash flow just trying to be a nice guy. So it's not a money thing strictly related the show where I expect / need to make money doing it - I won't and I know that - it's just an overall bad situation with timing and stock. When new stuff comes out which just about every single company I have will be doing toward end of year / early next year (JJP, CG, AP, Spooky) I need huge cash reserves to put deposits down with each one to run my business into next year. It's just a really shitty situation with the timing and my current stock / management of the business.
York really isn't a big 'new in box' crowd and I know that and that has never deterred me from having a great lineup at the show. Frankly, I don't think I've made money there ever - many times at a lot of shows we don't - it's the nature of the beast. We always hope that we get a lot of residual stuff later during the months after and all good will of supporting the community / show so that's the justification in your mind to take the loss. This isn't a cost issue of the show itself - the show booth cost is reasonable and the York show is frankly as I've said, like a family get together and Rich and his family and SUPER supportive and wonderful people. So, yes, I'm kind of upset at this situation this year (which has never worked out so poorly timing wise of releases and I wouldn't expect it to be the case in a future year) and I am trying to make every effort. Hell if I even had just one new thing to show off and expect some activity off of it would be a no brainer for the most part. And yes, I'm trying, thanks for recognizing that... I've posted on our FB page and paid money to promote it, Rich shared it for me on the show FB page after I asked him to, and I've posted here on Pinside now twice, and as I've feared, there's not much interest is most of what I can attempt to get there. Unfortunately time is short as I have to ship and make arrangements for all this if it was to happen so I figured I'd make one last push - both here and I re-ran and paid for my FB page ad yesterday.
Sorry for long post - I just really feel bad about it and wanted to explain - I know we have been a big supporter of the show and us wanting to do that hasn't changed.
Joe