(Topic ID: 221501)

Stern Star Trek vs Stern Star Wars

By pcprogrammer

5 years ago


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“Which pinball machine do you prefer - Star Trek or Star Wars”

  • Star Trek is the best 82 votes
    50%
  • Star Wars is the best 53 votes
    32%
  • I like them both equally 21 votes
    13%
  • They both suck 6 votes
    4%
  • Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball is the best pin ever made 3 votes
    2%

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#7 5 years ago

I'm a big star wars fan, but stern's SW was a pretty big disappointment for me. Empty and drainy. Folks say the code is awesome, but I don't see it. It doesn't seem approachable to me and seems jumbled and confusing.

ST is probably the better of the two if you want stuff to do on the playfield and have a clear set of rules.

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Most things seem confusing when you don't put any time into learning.
Most modes are color coded and the basics are pretty, well basic. Shoot the colors to light modes, hit the ramp to start modes, shoot the colored shots to complete modes.
Wasn't too hard was it?

Hard when you don't own the game or have ready access to it. I've only been able to play it a half dozen times at shows. It just doesn't resonate with me, and I find myself bypassing it to play other games.

Believe me, because of the theme, I *want* to like it--it's just not a very good game from what I've seen thus far.

#28 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

You have WOZ rated super high and it's the least intuitive game ever made, so you're probably smart enough to figure it out.

I don't think it's too confusing, and I haven't gotten a whole lot of game time on that one either. You hit a shot, it explains what the status is and what you need to accomplish next (either visually or with simple text). SW doesn't seem to present game info in an easily digestible format--too much text, too much stuff wizzing by. Part of the problem is that there is no text on the playfield that indicates anything. Just inserts with a bunch of "x"'s. I get that the x's were sterns attempt to make the inserts versatile, but it doesn't really work for me. Maybe putting the empire/alliance logos on them would have been more attractive, I don't know.

TH, DI, and POTC are somewhat confusing, though--there's way too much going on in order to quickly/easily grasp what's happening. Woz had more of a guided approach compared to the later JJP games.

Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

When playing with others during league play, if a big score is achieved, most people can't explain what they did to get the big jackpots. Just keep the ball in play since it's so damn fast.

Exactly. You either have to study the game intently, or just resort to flailing around randomly and hoping something happens. It's not one of those games that's "easy to play, but difficult to master", it's difficult to play and difficult to master. There's no obvious targets that lead you through the game.

That's why certain games have consistently remained in the top 10. They are enjoyed almost universally, and not just by experienced tournament players.

There's just a big hump to get over on SW before you even begin to figure out what's going on.

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from tbanthony:

Outside of gameplay and lighting, I found ST DMD graphics to be laughably bad. Oh look, I'm being chased by stick men natives! Yikes!

As with most stern games, a colorDMD is a big improvement.

#41 5 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

there’s not an animated AtAt that marches across the playfield I guess.

That would be awesome

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