Quoted from Pinfidel:

As both a federal AND state employee, let me clear some things up for those that don't know how things work.
I can tell you that the difference between the USPS and UPS is the systems in place and the employees. USPS workers have guaranteed jobs and take their time with work. They don't care to streamline systems. They're happy doing things the good ole fashioned way. Especially the Top brass. Not only that, but the USPS is NOT a business. They don't care if they lose money. What has hurt them the most is 2 things. #1- is the fact that online shopping has taken over and people are using FedEx, UPS and DHL and the like to do their deliveries. That's less packages for them to deliver. And the most important factor of all is automatic bill pay. EVERYONE uses it to pay their bills electronically. Instead of sorting and mailing out 100 million bills a week at the USPS, it's now done in the blink of an eye online and ON TIME. That's what has crushed the PO. They have lost over 3 Billion dollars a year in revenue just because of automatic bill pay.
At UPS (where I once worked, so I know first hand) the employees could be fired or replaced at any time. They have a beautiful streamlined system in place and the employees work their you know what's off all day EVERY day. Everyday at UPS is another day to shine and try to impress the bosses and move up within the company. At the USPS, you move up based on who you know and who you kiss up to. There's not much incentive there for the employees. And it's sad cause there are so many US postal workers that kill themselves every day and never receive recognition for their hard work. That's why throughout the year I give my mail lady several gift cards as a thank you for her awesome service. She's so appreciative that when she has a package for me, she puts the package and the mail in a bag, knocks on my door and hand delivers it to me.
If you have a great mail carrier, I strongly suggest giving them a gift card from time to time. A $25 Dunkin Donuts gift card really goes a long way in saying TY to them.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

What I speak of is factual. I know people on the inside at the P.O. There's a lot more things that go on behind the scenes that would make you sick if you/people knew. That's just the way it is bro.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Typical and you're making my point.

Quoted from OldHarley:

The two billion loss is because the government thought the post office ought to PRE fund the retirement accounts. This is where most of the loss is occurring. Once that gets changed the post office is pretty close to even. They are doing some stupid changes with the way they sort mail. They are closing most small sorting centers and sending the mail to a major sorting center. So your letter could travel 200 miles to the sorting center and 200 miles back to your town to be delivered next door. They will start closing the small sorting center post offices in January of 2015. I have several postal contracts and were not sure how the changes will effect us.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Government agencies are made to lose money.

Quoted from snyper2099:

You are insane. If that's true, who absorbs the loss?

Quoted from Pinfidel:

The retirement plans of most government agencies and many private sector companies is a huge drain on them. That's why they want to keep raising the retirement ages as well. The P.O. has a great retirement plan. 25 and out I believe? The MA. transportation dept. used to be 23 and out. I believe the armed forces is 18 and out with your retirement as well. The armed forces should get way more then they do. Thank God for the brave men and women who serve out country in the armed forces. They should get everything we can possibly offer.

Quoted from spfxted:

They shouldn't be putting that much money into a Scared Stiff!

Quoted from snyper2099:

So if I understand this correctly, the United States Government absorbs that loss if the payments are not made to them?

Quoted from snyper2099:

What about the millions of folks on welfare that are over the age of 70? Are they just lazy too?
What about the millions of kids that can't get $15 meds to live who are on welfare? Just let em die?
We need welfare and everyone knows it. There are people that take advantage and cheat in EVERY single thing EVER created.
Your blanket statement offers no solution, only complaints about something we need to protect those citizens that need help.

Quoted from Pinfidel:

Let me clear on something I said earlier. Government agencies are NOT a business. They were NOT created to make money. They were and are created to serve the people/provide services. That is why they are not run like a business.
Additionally, government agencies (like the P.O., unemployment, SS and welfare systems) are backed by the US Treasury. Where does our money go when we pay taxes? The US Treasury.
To say that they do not use tax payers money is an accountant slight of hand trick.