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Quoted from ibis:LOL not at all! I have a TAF backboard coming soon, Ill post pics of that one too as it progresses.
Should be there today. Been tracking it
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Quoted from ibis:Yes! It came Saturday! I think this should be a fun one to do. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Thanks for you're patience!
No rush here have a bunch of stuff to do anyway before I get to installing that
This cut on the TAF backboard came out really well. It's apparent the palm router they used had a round base where as mine is square. The oval at the top is a little more squared off, but thats the only difference. This cutout is next to The Thing Box is and the relief cut allows the box top to move up when Hand comes out. It's almost entirely hidden but an important feature. I actually cut this a tad deeper than the original. When I did a tear down of my TAF, getting the box lid to not scrap the backboard was tough, the variable was fractions with no room for error. Hopefully being a tad deeper will help.
I know the width of the cut looks wider, but it isn't, trick of the eye between the light wood and the original black. 
IMG_3878 (resized).jpgIMG_3879 (resized).jpgAwesome, I am glad you went a tad deeper because when I put my side rails onto the playfield I was off by a 32nd of an inch from where they were on the original playfield I doubt it will make that much of a difference but less concerned now
Quoted from mmr61184:Awesome, I am glad you went a tad deeper because when I put my side rails onto the playfield I was off by a 32nd of an inch from where they were on the original playfield I doubt it will make that much of a difference but less concerned now
Definitely let me know who this backboard install goes, if it needs to be a tad deeper I can make a note for future builds. Id rather there be too much room than just barely enough!
Quoted from ibis:Definitely let me know who this backboard install goes, if it needs to be a tad deeper I can make a note for future builds. Id rather there be too much room than just barely enough!
Yesh especially if you don’t really see down there
Quoted from mmr61184:Yesh especially if you don’t really see down there
Nope, it's very hidden by the box and a cover-plastic. Just the top arch is exposed but its black and in a corner so no one could see it from most any position around the game.
Quoted from ibis:Definitely let me know who this backboard install goes, if it needs to be a tad deeper I can make a note for future builds. Id rather there be too much room than just barely enough!
If I remember right, it isn't the depth of the cut out but the width.
I've had more issues with the Thing box hitting the one side when fully open.
Not by much but still.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:If I remember right, it isn't the depth of the cut out but the width.
I've had more issues with the Thing box hitting the one side when fully open.
Not by much but still.
My recollection is, when the lid opens the top left corner is what enters the cut-out area. It is totally possible the edge of the lid could hit the top part. Ill see if I can get a picture of mine in the 'up' position.
So its not actually the lid that could be the problem, its the hinge. When the lid lifts, a part of the hinge rotates backwards. So Im under the impression that little deeper would be a benefit. The height of the relief cut doesn't look like it comes into play. When I lift the box lid, the lid doesn't come near the backboard or the relief cut, it rests against the plastic above it.
IMG_3881 (resized).jpgQuoted from ibis:So its not actually the lid that could be the problem, its the hinge. When the lid lifts, a part of the hinge rotates backwards. So Im under the impression that little deeper would be a benefit. The height of the relief cut doesn't look like it comes into play. When I lift the box lid, the lid doesn't come near the backboard or the relief cut, it rests against the plastic above it.
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Fair enough.
I've also sanded down the front edge of that plastic so the box can open more. Maybe that's why it hits the backboard.
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:Fair enough.
I've also sanded down the front edge of that plastic so the box can open more. Maybe that's why it hits the backboard.
If the backboard is a 1/32 of an inch closer I shouldn’t worry have a problem with anything hitting right. I assume I can adjust the location of the plastic accordingly. I must have been just a hair off when I clamped down the side rail and screwed it in. Going off the distance from the original rail on the old playfield to the location of the backboard.
Quoted from mmr61184:If the backboard is a 1/32 of an inch closer I shouldn’t worry have a problem with anything hitting right. I assume I can adjust the location of the plastic accordingly. I must have been just a hair off when I clamped down the side rail and screwed it in. Going off the distance from the original rail on the old playfield to the location of the backboard.
You should be OK. When I tore my TAF down and got to reassembling this part of the game, I actually had a new Thing Box which was a hair bigger. Mounting the box was fine, but lifting the lid wasn't. It was getting stuck on the plastics to the right of the lid. I had more trouble with that than anything! And it was a bear to screw in, theres no room!
Quoted from ibis:You should be OK. When I tore my TAF down and got to reassembling this part of the game, I actually had a new Thing Box which was a hair bigger. Mounting the box was fine, but lifting the lid wasn't. It was getting stuck on the plastics to the right of the lid. I had more trouble with that than anything! And it was a bear to screw in, theres no room!
Yup! I had to trim the plastics to the right also!
ibis do you by any chance know if the backboard is supposed to be perfectly flush with the back edge of the playfield mine is set in about 1/16 of an inch and when you put the bracket on for things box the bracket doesn’t sit flush to the board. I can’t remember what it’s supposed to be like now and I don’t have the old board to test fit it on the old playfield.
In most every case that Ive stripped a playfield, the back board is flush with the end of the playfield. In all honesty, if the backboard was off the back of the playfield 1/16 of an inch, it wouldn't hurt anything. That corner on a TAF is absolutely a pain in the arse and a tad more space wouldn't hurt it. Not much, if anything connects to the backboard too, so it wouldn't effect any other parts being installed.
Quoted from ibis:In most every case that Ive stripped a playfield, the back board is flush with the end of the playfield. In all honesty, if the backboard was off the back of the playfield 1/16 of an inch, it wouldn't hurt anything. That corner on a TAF is absolutely a pain in the arse and a tad more space wouldn't hurt it. Not much, if anything connects to the backboard too, so it wouldn't effect any other parts being installed.
Thanks, I will just move it, I’ll fill the holes with dowels and move it back flush. I did this ass backwards should have put the backboard on first then the side rails
Quoted from mmr61184:Thanks, I will just move it, I’ll fill the holes with dowels and move it back flush. I did this ass backwards should have put the backboard on first then the side rails
Great pro tip. Thank you for sharing
Did I pre-drill holes or where those holes I drilled for my stands I use to apply the finish? If they are from the stands, they should line up, or I at least try to put them that way.
Very true! Most of the Williams games of that era should have the backboards put on first. They usually have corner brackets that can be a pain if anything is in the way.
Quoted from ibis:Did I pre-drill holes or where those holes I drilled for my stands I use to apply the finish? If they are from the stands, they should line up, or I at least try to put them that way.
Very true! Most of the Williams games of that era should have the backboards put on first. They usually have corner brackets that can be a pain if anything is in the way.
No you didn’t predrill. What happened in my case was I ordered the side rails from you first like a month ago, I was going to repaint my old backboard and reuse it but I didn’t get around to it yet . So I put the side rails on my new playfield first by measuring the distance from the old rails on the old playfield to the back edge without the backboard on it. When you made me the new backboard and I put it on it was that 32nd or so of an inch off that I got. There were so many factors, so like I said lesson learned I did it ass backwards. I will take the two side rails off and the backboard off and fill the holes with dowels the do the backboard first and go off of that
Ahh! I see!! I hope is all worked out in the end. I have had to work backwards and twice-over before too. Recently I did a Gottlieb 2001 play field swap and had the whole thing done and sent pics to the owner. He found a mistake, the drop target colors were opposite from the colors on the playfield lol. Green was where the yellow was supposed to be, visa-versa. I had to unsolder the entire drop target mech which is HUGE and disassemble and reassemble the entire thing in the right color order. All you can do is laugh!
Quoted from ibis:Ahh! I see!! I hope is all worked out in the end. I have had to work backwards and twice-over before too. Recently I did a Gottlieb 2001 play field swap and had the whole thing done and sent pics to the owner. He found a mistake, the drop target colors were opposite from the colors on the playfield lol. Green was where the yellow was supposed to be, visa-versa. I had to unsolder the entire drop target mech which is HUGE and disassemble and reassemble the entire thing in the right color order. All you can do is laugh!
Oh man what a pain. I plugged the holes with dowels and wood glue last night. I’ll put them all back on tonight and let you know how it goes
Quoted from ibis:Ahh! I see!! I hope is all worked out in the end. I have had to work backwards and twice-over before too. Recently I did a Gottlieb 2001 play field swap and had the whole thing done and sent pics to the owner. He found a mistake, the drop target colors were opposite from the colors on the playfield lol. Green was where the yellow was supposed to be, visa-versa. I had to unsolder the entire drop target mech which is HUGE and disassemble and reassemble the entire thing in the right color order. All you can do is laugh!
All worked out!!!
Just updated the AD, Bally Eight Ball Deluxe is available now for $85.
Stern 9 Ball is coming soon, within the next few weeks!
Also, if anyone knows someone with a set of Bally Fathom rails, please let me know. Would love to add this to the library! Also still looking for a set of Fish Tales and Quicksilver!
Stern 9 Ball is added to the library!
Coming soon is Fish Tales(FINALLY) and TOTAN! I'll keep you posted when they are available!
This weeks slate of rails is going to be 9 Ball and EBD! If anyone needs any sets made, just send me a PM!
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Wanted to share this Stern 9 Ball swap Im doing. Went with the blue on this and it came out really nice! The plastics will hide most of it but what does come through will look slick.
I have a Fish Tales coming into the shop soon so I will have FT rails available soon!
Thanks everyone for the opportunity to make these rails for you! Its been a blast doing them!
IMG_4034 (resized).jpgIMG_4035 (resized).jpgIMG_4036 (resized).jpgIMG_4038 (resized).jpgIMG_4039 (resized).jpgQuoted from Tophervette:I really need to get off my ass and send you the Dr Who rails. Perfect Blue for it too.
Just send me a PM and I'll send you my addy! Would love to have that set! Im working with someone now to send me a Bonzai Run set, going to be awesome!!
Quoted from jaytrem:Curious if you've approached Taylor about passing along his collection? If he really is done, it would be nice if the original rails that I and others donated could continue to help.
I did actually. As I was progressing in my vision to take this on I felt it necessary to do a few things before I kicked it off. First, was to get the nod from the patrons of Pinside. The last thing I wanted to do was create a divide, or seem bullish in my approach. I posted in his thread that I had the notion I could continue what he started, and I got the feeling pretty quick that most everyone was OK with me picking up this baton, so to speak. By this time I believe Taylor was quiet for over a year. I reached out him via PM and shared with him my thoughts and idea to continue what he had started. I also offered to go to VA and pay for and pick up his rail-library as well as some jigs he had made, if he didn't need them anymore. I probably would have bought some tools, bits or blades he wasn't interested in either. I did not get a response and that is OK. He did post a final response in his original thread and it said he was done making rails. You can still see his original thread if you search 'reese rails'. He provided a great service for all of us collectors, I hope to do the same. It's been a fun time making these and I love taking a slab of oak and ripping .5" rails out it! Just picked up a new slab today actually, finishing up a TAF set and starting a F-14!
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Quoted from radium:Need Monster Bash and Medieval Madness.
Someone please loan this guy a set!
Two Williams classics! The sad thing is, Ive done three MM play field swaps in my time, just not after I stated this venture!
I do have a set of Solar Fire rails coming my way, they will be added to the library soon!
I am shocked no Whirlwind sets yet. Does anyone have that they can send if I pay shipping?
Mine are warped from water damage.
New rails in the library! FINALLY after all this time Fish Tales has arrived!
Fish Tales $75
Solar Fire $90
I hate to price SF so high but man there are 8 total pieces! It's a lot of wood and cutting. I updated the main AD with the new additions! If anyone has any questions reach out anytime!
I may have access to some old Whirlwind rails for you. Will catch up when that happens.
Oh yeah, ibis is one of the great ones in this hobby, deal with confidence.
Suddenly wishing people selling top side populated playfields as wall hangers would strip the rails off and send them in first.
You know what I mean.
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