I would get a Funhouse if not for the Rudy head. It will be a DMD game now, not that you watch it while you’re playing anyway, but glad to see some sys 11 games will be remade. I’m sure their next one will be Whirlwind since they already did the 2.0 for it as well. I’m more apt to get one of those. Just waiting for the day when someone announces WH2O or TOTAN.
Quoted from Lhyrgoif:Weird choice of game, not interested in that remake.
Too expensive for the basic version too, compared to just buying a nice original for about half. I can't see this selling good.
Also, why the heck did they release FH 2.0 kits and after like a year come out with this. This will most likely kill any interest for both old and future 2.0 kits if people think they might release remakes later on for the same games.
So many strange decisions made...
HALF!?!? Have you looked at the archive prices???
Quoted from MooButt:I would get a Funhouse if not for the Rudy head. It will be a DMD game now, not that you watch it while you’re playing anyway, but glad to see some sys 11 games will be remade. I’m sure their next one will be Whirlwind since they already did the 2.0 for it as well. I’m more apt to get one of those. Just waiting for the day when someone announces WH2O or TOTAN.
System 11 games are being remade? Which ones?
Quoted from vikingerik:Code could be spruced up too. Maybe gameplay is perfect, but it could add modern touches like mode champ scores for all the modes, LITZ as a challenge mode option, cooperative or one-vs-many play, impossible mode. Maybe it could even also use the full original Twilight Zone song recording rather than a DCS FM synth recreation. And of course it could have improved dot graphics like the other titles. Overall there's quite a bit you could do to make a remake of TZ worthwhile.
TZ has pretty much perfect code...
Quoted from chad:Will Twilight Zone have the 3rd magnet installed?
And the software for this as well.
Why wouldn’t they? If it’s indeed a CGC game I presume they would want to have the game be as close to what the original design team intended for the base game as they did for Cactus Canyon. But I’ll be surprised if a TZr is next for CGC. I’m waiting for Big Bang Bar. 
I’m all for a TZ remake. TZ is on my short list of pins I want, so a NIB would be nice. But this seems like the last pin someone would want to remake as it is noted as the pin with the highest budget and patents. Seems like a lot of parts to remake vs other Bally/Williams pins in which you’re only gonna get so much money for
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/twilight-zone
“ The game is often noted to be the game with the most patents (however Pinball Magic by Capcom has more), the most toys and the most over-cost budget in the history of pinball.”
Quoted from jfh:Why wouldn’t they? If it’s indeed a CGC game I presume they would want to have the game be as close to what the original design team intended for the base game as they did for Cactus Canyon. But I’ll be surprised if a TZr is next for CGC. I’m waiting for Big Bang Bar.
CGC did not include the saloon doors in Cactus Canyon .
Quoted from chad:CGC did not include the saloon doors in Cactus Canyon .
True. I was thinking specifically of the drop targets and code. Though the original saloon doors were never as far along as the TZ third magnet.
Quoted from Whistles:One of my favorite parts of this machine was hearing that synth rendition of Golden earing...
I agree, but did you know TZ was supposed to be the first game with the DCS sound? The boards weren't ready in time so they quickly threw together the synth version of the guitar solo from the Golden Earring song for the game. The original DCS sound was much different and not nearly as good IMO. You can find it online if you're curious.
Quoted from Damonator:Let me preface this by saying I'd probably be in on a remake, but there's a lot of TZ mods that I would miss.
The new Pinsound re-orchestration for TZ really knocked it out of the park:I'd also miss the 86Pixels backboard monitor, IGT topper and GLM short switches on the upper PF to name a few.
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Took a trip to Galloping Ghost yesterday to play Funhouse and Twilight Zone. Gotta say....they are both on my wish list now. I'd seriously consider buying both remakes. Of course, that means I need to sell 2 of my pins because I'm out of space (actually 3...because I'm 1 over right now). ugh.
Quoted from Greaseman:Took a trip to Galloping Ghost yesterday to play Funhouse and Twilight Zone. Gotta say....they are both on my wish list now. I'd seriously consider buying both remakes. Of course, that means I need to sell 2 of my pins because I'm out of space (actually 3...because I'm 1 over right now). ugh.
Nice!!
Quoted from vikingerik:I'd be fairly tempted to get a TZ remake. The game is great, but I'm not really inclined to try to maintain 30 year old hardware or pay up big for a professionally reconditioned one. And modern engineering could vastly improve the trouble spots like the clock, bridge diverter, plunger lane diverter, sometimes-unreliable powerball sensors. (I wouldn't even object to replacing the entire mechanical clock with a small LCD screen.)
Code could be spruced up too. Maybe gameplay is perfect, but it could add modern touches like mode champ scores for all the modes, LITZ as a challenge mode option, cooperative or one-vs-many play, impossible mode. Maybe it could even also use the full original Twilight Zone song recording rather than a DCS FM synth recreation. And of course it could have improved dot graphics like the other titles. Overall there's quite a bit you could do to make a remake of TZ worthwhile.
Funny, my TZ has been very reliable. I've owned it for 20 years. Minimal problems. Sure, the clock boards were troublesome, but modern replacements are available. Same for the PB sensor boards.
IMHO, the code is spot on too.
I'll take an original all day long. Same for MM, I'd rather have an original. At least I can service the boards when things do go bad...
Quoted from PinJim:I'll take an original all day long. Same for MM, I'd rather have an original. At least I can service the boards when things do go bad...
Don't take this for scripture but some of the early bally SS boards are "aging" out around this point, and many already kick'ed it if they had any long term temp swing exposure.
Quoted from PinJim:Funny, my TZ has been very reliable. I've owned it for 20 years. Minimal problems. Sure, the clock boards were troublesome, but modern replacements are available. Same for the PB sensor boards.
IMHO, the code is spot on too.
I'll take an original all day long. Same for MM, I'd rather have an original. At least I can service the boards when things do go bad...
Same here. I put off getting one because I was afraid it would be a maintenance nightmare like everyone says. It was no different than any other pin. The two things that cause the most problems are the clock and eddy sensors. Both are easy to deal with and those issues are not critical to gameplay.
Quoted from Whistles:Don't take this for scripture but some of the early bally SS boards are "aging" out around this point, and many already kick'ed it if they had any long term temp swing exposure.
Ahem.
No shortage of 70s and 80s Bally boards that are still trucking along just fine thanks.
20240402_201304 (resized).jpgQuoted from gdonovan:Ahem.
No shortage of 70s and 80s Bally boards that are still trucking along just fine thanks.
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I've had my fair share of extremely crusty old bally boards that either work fine or can be brought back to working with minimal service.
Quoted from Haymaker:I've had my fair share of extremely crusty old bally boards that either work fine or can be brought back to working with minimal service.
Biggest killer is battery puke, period. And all of them suffer from that regardless of brand or pretty much year.
People hooking up boards wrong, cracked headers or AMI chips a distant second.
Quoted from Haymaker:I've had my fair share of extremely crusty old bally boards that either work fine or can be brought back to working with minimal service.
Yeah honestly the traces are so large on these I think they can be made to last for eternity, once the original battery is dealt with properly.
System9/11 is the first board where I'd really consider a repro rather than bother fixing a busted original, although even then I still have two games (F14 and SS) running fine with boards I repaired 10 years ago.
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