Hello EM Experts:

I have a Moulin Rouge machine that I am trying to repair for a friend that is not ejecting the ball and starting a new game. None of the flippers, sligshots, or pop bumpers work either (assuming they won't until the ball eject works). The ball ejectors on the playfield work and kick the ball back down to the outhole, but once the ball there the game does nothing. I've looked at basically everything related to the ball eject system and even found a wire that had disconnected, but it still didn't fix the issue so now I am left scratching my head. I am curious if anyone has experience with this happening and perhaps could give me some direction from here, which is exactly where I started.

Thanks!

That would be awesome! But unfortunately, I did test the credit unit and it is working.

Thanks, I didn't even think to check that circuit. I will report back ASAP!

Just to be sure we are on the same page, by replay switch are you talking about the credit button on the front left of the machine? When I press the credit button the replay relay does not pull, only the coin relay and reset relay engage.

I went over that entire circuit and everything seems to work as it should. I haven’t even been able to get the ball eject to kick whatsoever, which also seems suspect... not sure where else I should be looking at this point.

Here’s a video showing exactly what the machine is doing. Hoping that might help, but looking at the schematic, I cannot seem to wrap my head around where I should be looking that would keep the ball from ejecting and everything on the playfield including the flippers from working as well? The only way I have gotten anything on the playfield to react is it I hold down a flipper button or manually interact with anything on the playfield white manually pushing the outhole relay at the same time, like I did in the video with the flipper button when I manually engaged the outhole relay. It’s got to be something simple, but what???

I actually pulled that index F off the score motor and cleaned and adjusted it before posting the video. It’s good so that leaves me with option 2. On it. Thanks!

The switch I pulled was the outhole relay and I had the flipped button pressed then pulled the out hole relay to get it to work.

I checked all three of the relays you mentioned. Nothing will allow the playfield to work except the out hole relay while pressing one of the playfield switches or flippers. I did notice none of the tilt switches pull the tilt relay either. Not sure why? More concerned about getting the out hole to eject the ball and the playfield to work, but it’s suspect.

I was finally able to get the playfield working by jumping wires #95 and #10 (red line w/arrows) on the IMPULSE. Tracing it back on the schematic (yellow highlight) puts me right where you told me to look >>> Reset Relay >>> Tilt Relay >>> Game Over Relay, which I’ve checked over and over again without any luck. Tomorrow I will jump each relay one at a time to narrow it down further until I figure it out. I appreciate your help on this. I’m pretty new to EM and find them to be a challenge so it’s nice to have someone there to help along the way.
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I went thru those three switches and even jumped each of them and was never able to get the playfield to come alive. The only way I can make it work is by jumping wire #95 to #10 on the score motor IMPULSE as the red line indicates in the image above. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

I will recheck that INDEX F again, the I guess I need to start looking for more loose or broken wires until I hear back. Thanks.

Thanks… I wasn’t sure if I was doing the jumping correctly or not?

Just to confirm: like I show in the diagram with the red lines indicating the jumpers.

So if I jump the wires I numbered in red:

#1 If working after jumping then there’s an issue with the Reset Relay (switch being closed?), and I should look at wire #89 or the switch itself? If machine is still not working then test jumper #2.

#2 If working after jumping then there’s an issue with the Tilt Relay (switch being closed?), and I should look at wire #89 or the wire between the Tilt Relay and Game Over (which isn’t numbered?) or the switch itself? If not working then test jumper #3.

#3 If working after jumping then there’s an issue with the Reset Relay (switch being closed?), and I should look at the wire between the Tilt Relay switch (which isn’t numbered?) or the switch itself? If not working then… ???

If I understand that correctly, I will test those today and report back.

As a side note: I know most of the tilt system isn’t working already, the Tilt Bob and Slam Tilt do not work, so would I be correct to start thinking that could be the issue at this point? If I do find the machine works after jumping the Tilt Relay #2, then I would assume my next job would be to look at that entire Tilt system?

Thanks for hanging in there, I’m new to these old machines and am slowly learning how to read schematics.

I was also curious about the wire between the Tilt Relay and Game Over Relay switch that doesn’t have a number on the schematic? Should I assume it’s stays wire #89 since there’s no indication?

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Ok. I got it working when I jumped the Tilt Relay. Sweet! Now I’m going to go thru all the tilt switches and then should I be looking for a loose wire or is there a specific method I should be following down the schematic?

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Actually after thinking about it, it’s actually the Reset Relay switch that’s the issue since the game works when jumping the Tilt Relay switch and even the Game Over Relay switch.

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So I toned wired #89 between the Reset Relay switch and the Tilt Relay switch where the wire runs and there was no tone, so I went ahead and jumped the wire and it stared working. So since there’s no switched or any other components between that wire am I correct to assume there is a break in that wire or it’s connected wrong somewhere in the machine? Maybe a plug wire is loose or making a bad connection too?

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I am curious why none of the tilt functions are working working though??? Am I on the wrong track?

I’m starting to think I’m reading the schematic in the wrong direction. I think that’s my problem?

The Replay Relay never pulls, yet my Coin Relay does, but the Replay Relay is supposed to pull and then the Coin Relay does if I’m reading the schematic correctly. After looking thru the machine I noticed the Replay Switch had a cut wire and was reattached to another Orange/Yellow wire. Am I correct to assume that someone wired this machine to bypass the Replay Relay? If so am I alap correct to assume that wouldn’t affect anything, and just allows free play?

I’m just retracing my steps from the beginning.

Thanks!

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So I started checking the plugs from and found the black/gray plug loose and the game started working after I hard wired it. The only issue remaining is the tilt still doesn’t want to work, and it was working prior. I have tried all the tilt switches and none of them will tilt the machine. At this point I’m thinking it’s probably the same issue with the plug that controls the tilt unless someone has a better idea… I’m not sure what color wire I’m looking for. I think yellow/red? The wiring is a mess and they use the old style connectors.

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