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A.P. says Tanks! But nothing is over until we say it's over!

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#328 3 months ago
Quoted from dsmoke1986:

I had HotWheels and LOV and both were built like tanks and super fun games...They f'd up big time with GTF, hopefully they get back on track.

Agree. I own Oktoberfest, owned Hot Wheels, and nearly bought Houdini. AP impressed me a lot from the start. High quality pins at a comparatively low price point. Hell, Oktoberfest is at least as loaded as any JJP LE. Nobody was complaining about the quality or the prices. All they needed was a good licensed theme to hit the big time sales-wise. Then they made GTF. I don't know WTF they were thinking. They basically asked Dialed In to "Hold my beer." A guaranteed sales flop regardless of how good or bad it turned put to be. This is like when Zingy Bingy killed Capcom pinball. I am genuinely confused as to why so many pinball companies have made terrible choices on the most important aspect that drives sales; the theme. It doesn't seem that hard to know what the community wants or doesn't want. I could do it. I'd do it for free. Call me anytime. Someone in the room should've said "Hell no! What are you trying to put us out of busines?" when this rediculous idea was floated. GTF never should've made it past the white board. There are dozens of licensed themes that would've sold 10x better.

#362 3 months ago
Quoted from Sorokyl:

Stern makes 600 games a week. AP 300 a year. Probably easier time getting a discount on a bad stern game than a bad ap game. the demand is not quite 100x for a stern. I don't think there are many AP games sitting in warehouses anywhere. But there's probably at least a thousand venom machines looking for homes right now!

Stern is not selling 30k games this year. I doubt they ever have.

#396 3 months ago
Quoted from LovelyCoCoNuts:

#1 listening to Kaneda is like buying lifetime passes to Thegameseum (See what I did there CrazyLevi)
#2 AP was at IAPPA and GTF was a very fun game, beat the $hit out of venom and especially that 007 (wtf was Stern Thinking)
Given the issues with this latest batch of Stern Stranger things pins with whispers even people wanting refunds due to alleged persistant manufacturing defects.... with screen and projector issues... that makes me sad as it's a beautiful looking game, but the pro is a pass
Unlike foo fighters pro, that's a perfect route game.

Our takes differ a lot. My understanding is Stranger Pro earns vety well. Seems like a better horse to bet on than Foo Pro for most locations. Fun pin and massively popular theme.

I heard a couple guys got projectors with focus problems in the new batch premiums, which Stern took care of. Those projectors aren't made by Stern. Not sure what manufacturing defects you're referring to. I owned a Stranger LE and now a 2023 Premium and Stern did manage to make a few improvements.

Pretty harsh on Bond. That pin has shaped up nicely. The owners I know seem to love it now.

#547 3 months ago
Quoted from JohnMatrix:

This is like AOC math. A million dollars in sales would be an unmitigated disaster.

AOC math. Love it.

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