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A few questions about gottlieb domino

By jdapolito

3 years ago


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    #9 3 years ago
    Quoted from jdapolito:

    I looked under the insulation and it looks like very thin wire wound around a fiber ?
    What are those ?

    Those should be resistors. Gottlieb used them to suppress arcing and burning rivet contacts on wiper boards. They should be shown on your schematic. There should be a certain resistance across them but cannot be open circuit.

    #11 3 years ago
    Quoted from jdapolito:

    They don’t look like resistors I have ever seen but I’ll look again with magnification and see the color scheme of the bands and see if I can read the resistance from that

    They are called wire-wound resistors. Not sure if they are even going to have the color code marked on them. You can use any kind of resistor as long as they have the correct resistance and wattage rating. They are not used on all games (and not in many circuits as far as that goes), but I have a Royal Flush and a Super Soccer that have them and they both use 470 ohm, 2 watt resistors. They all serve the same purpose and are used at the same voltage, so I would bet that's what you have in your machine. You should be able to use a multimeter to check their resistance.

    If they are open (hard to believe they would all be open), it really wouldn't prevent the circuits they protect from functioning (they are wired in parallel), but you would be getting severe arcing from the rotor contacts to rivets (due to back EMF) as the rotor sweeps around them and that causes damage to the relatively soft brass material used on these units.

    #14 3 years ago

    So you can see from the schematic snippet posted above that those resistors won't affect the actual operation of the relays. I'm wondering if you have the rotor indexed correctly on the stepper shaft? I just played this game on virtual pinball, and the "5" domino on the left side of the playfield should be lit at the start of a game. Of course, you also have to make sure the rotor is adjusted so the contacts are free and centered on the rivets and making good contact as it rotates. Other than that, if all the wires are intact on the unit, including the flimsy wires on the rotor, and it is mechanically advancing when pulsed, and the jones plugs are properly mated, it should work. Of course, the schematic might be helpful in revealing something that is not obvious. It's hard to troubleshoot without one.

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