Same for spot welding I assume?

Vid
I have a question.
So I ordered the 20ga mirror finish stainless from masters. It measures .030. I then measured the thickness of the guide on a Data East Secret Service and it is .048. I assume the ,030 wont work for this guide. So depending on the game or manufacturer, some difference can be expected. Right?
Mike

I am referring to sheet metal guides not rod wire. I just wanted to see if .030 would work for .048 on this game. Also wanted to inform others that there might be different thickness out there.

Here is the left side guide. Same material as the right side I am working with.
Mike

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I'm about to kick off my first attempt at this by making 7 new guides for my Gottlieb Spring Break. My old ones are too rusty and the plating is flaking off so they can't be saved.

I wasn't able to source #8 mirror finish locally, but I was able to get 4X 1" wide 36" long strips of #4 brushed finish stainless 20ga for about $40. I think I can buff it to get more shine if It seems too dull.

My question is, does anyone know if there is a nipper or punch tool out there with a square profile so I can reuse the original supports? Could I get away with using a round punch? (something like https://www.amazon.com/Capri-Tools-CP21050-21050-Puncher/dp/B00OM4GVX0/ref=sr_1_6)

Would something like this tool work? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KRACO/ref=ewc_pr_img_2

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So I picked up a nipper and a hole punch to try out. The nipper is a little wider and slightly more shallow than the notches on the original guide. That works out since my guides are 1/8” more narrow (height wise) than the original. The nipper also makes it easy to make the tapered ends of these guides. The nipper does leave sharp edges however, so I’m going to have to sand or file them down.

I also really like the hole punch over using a drill on sheet metal. No need to clamp and no worries of spinning sharp metal.

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This was a surprisingly doable process. Thanks vid1900 for documenting this. I wouldn’t have thought to make new guides otherwise.

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Closer look at clips and #4 finish:
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First time working on any of this, so sorry for the stupid questions:

Would this work to make clean cuts?
https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-5-plate-shear/t27429

Also how do you drill out the rivets, do you clamp the guide into a vise and use a hand drill? That would bend the the old guide flat where you clamp it...

That's brilliant, thank you!

Why is this so cheap?

https://www.gooddbird.com/product/jet-sr-2236m-36-inch-slip-roll-22-gauge-756026/?variant=74550&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping

$58 for a 3ft slip roll?

This one seems legit to me. I might go with it when I have some spare $$$

https://www.vevor.com/slip-roll-c_10116/sj-300-slip-roll-machine-11-8-300mm-slip-roller-0-8mm-sheet-metal-fabrication-p_010315030748?gclid=CjwKCAjwwdWVBhA4EiwAjcYJEA-iEV4dCGJmnj-F2pQVwguv7szMr6FN9AoiVhZ9DyzN2qJ19SFRoCXx4QAvD_BwE
$106 shipped.

I bought this one, but I haven't even taken it out of the packaging yet. Probably comes from the same factory:
https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-12-slip-roll/t10727?gclid=CjwKCAjwwdWVBhA4EiwAjcYJEBk581TycguRCmT78Ep2K0oB04G5-mKA_LrJLH9vCpRrCyNjPmdruRoCKgQQAvD_BwE

there a vid guide for everything. Vid must be a vampire because he has way too many years of knowledge under his belt and maybe that is why he is mostly active at night...
Anyway, turn me into one too please.

Now seriously, great job.

sooooo, how do I do WIRE ball guides? I would like to replace the ones in my tron, they have lost their shine for whatever reason and would like to take them off and put new ones in... or should I take the existing ones and have them re-plated?

Have you tried tumbling them with some crushed walnut and flitz?

another great thread, thanks for the valuable information and time and effort vid1900

these and others would be great as a pdf documents

I have not. Dont really want to push them out unless I am ready and certain of a 100% trouble free outcome.

It scares me that
A- they wont in as nice, bend, scratch the pf when in/out
B- see A

Lol

I spent a better part of the afternoon making another ball guide for EBD. EBD only has the one for the left side bonus lane but it's long, over 20 inches. It has 4 L brackets and 2 threaded studs. For my first EBD restore over 10 years ago I bought the metal strips from Metal by the Inch online. There was a minimum order, so I think I ended up with 200 strips. I made 3 guides and now 3 more for my current games. The hardest part of this job is drilling the holes. The stainless is really hard, eats drill bits for breakfast LOL.

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You need to make one more for me!

I can if you supply the old one for the L brackets.